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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 12:06:42 PM   
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Land move for Japan.
Nothing till the movement phase.
Over to Germany/Italy

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 4:05:50 PM   
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Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Naval

Port Attack: None
Naval Air:
Italy

A fighter flies to the Eastern Mediterranean 2-box and a NAV flies to the Italian Coast

Naval Movement:
Italy

Conte di Cavour and Caio Duilio sail to the Italian Coast. Does the CW cruiser squadron wish to intercept?




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 5:20:03 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 5:48:08 PM   
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Some subs sail for the Eastern Med and Italian Coast

A BB and a couple of cruisers head for the 1-box of the Eastern Med.

Two cruisers and a TRS sail to the Italian Coast. Do the CW cruisers wish to intercept? Also if so, can you confirm what aircraft you want to fly in the Italian Coast and Eastern Med please? The Italians will fly nothing more in either.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 6:13:44 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/28/2020 6:42:56 PM   
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We continue tomorrow....

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/29/2020 3:28:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Question: Why can't my TRS move to the Eastern Med? It has a movement of 3-3 and was not found in the Italian Coast so why can't it continue on?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/29/2020 4:10:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Question: Why can't my TRS move to the Eastern Med? It has a movement of 3-3 and was not found in the Italian Coast so why can't it continue on?


Are there any Allied warships in East Med. If there are and you didn’t have either a warship or Nav there at the start of the impulse you may not have the range. In the presence of the enemy means it costs 2 to move through Italian Coast (CW had CA’s, Italy nothing at start of impulse)and another 2 to move into East Med.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 8:39:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah okay thanks that explains it. This is the most embarrassing rescue attempt in history....

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 8:50:36 AM   
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As the fleet can't move further they decide to stop in the Italian Coast 1-box.... like I wanted them to do anyway so there...

No combat for the Italians. What do the Allies want to do? - Looks like they have a Vildebeest in Sardinia they can use too. No Axis aircraft will be flying




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 1:25:23 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 3:07:17 PM   
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Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike:
Germany

2 x ART fire on the units defending Amsterdam




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 3:16:50 PM   
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Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Germany

The Germans continue east, re-position in France and push on to Amsterdam.

Over to the Japanese



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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 8:57:42 PM   
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Germany is quite generous in the trade agreement with Italy. Looks almost like an unequal treaty

Thanks for the AAR

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/30/2020 9:20:09 PM   
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Am I just imagining things, or are the Chinese slightly in trouble ?

Germany is quite generous in the trade agreement with Italy. Looks almost like an unequal treaty

Thanks for the AAR


You are not imagining things. China will be knocked-out.
That will be interesting!

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 6:01:03 AM   
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In M/A, the Western Allies seemed to be in deep trouble with the invasion through the Alps. I'm surprised France managed to hold until J/A.
On the other hand, the CW conquering Sardinia and Lybia and the early mauling the Italian Navy received may cause trouble for the Euro Axis.

If I may ask, could you show who controls what in the rest of Africa ? I wonder how long it will take the CW to get rid of the annoying vagrants.

I suppose Warspite1 chose to instal a Vichy pseudo government in order to avoid all the French colonies from remaining in the fight.

Side note : in French, a ship is supposed to be "he", not "she". It was quite a shock to see Warspite1 refer to the "Richelieu" as a "she"...

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 7:10:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the map of Africa and who controls what.



Here is the situation in the Horn of Africa:



and in Sudan:



The marauding Italians have been somewhat contained in this region and with Libya in allied hands (with the exception of Balbo holed up in Benghazi that is) CW can now chose how to handle the Italians in and around Ethiopia. Containment or conquest?

As for the French campaign the Germans went with slow and steady, not using any O-chits to blow up the front. That means there will be more punch in the Russian campaign on the other hand.

Barbarossa will also be interesting, can the Russians stop a 41 Barbarossa by stuffing the border?
The US will in all likelyhood be gearing up in S/O 1940, which is quite early and hopefully that also means an early entry into the war, perhaps forcing Japan to react.

All in all this has turned into a very cool game with some really strong positions for both sides in different parts of the map.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:06:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Admiral Delabroglio

I suppose Warspite1 chose to instal a Vichy pseudo government in order to avoid all the French colonies from remaining in the fight.

Side note : in French, a ship is supposed to be "he", not "she". It was quite a shock to see Warspite1 refer to the "Richelieu" as a "she"...

Best regards
warspite1

Hi Admiral. I ultimately chose Vichy and not heading for Gib for three reasons. Firstly going for Gib is risky and the Germans could do with help, but the Italian Navy was badly hit almost every time it ventured out and so there would be no help from that quarter, and secondly there was the matter of the Belgians and Dutch still around that had to be cleared while forces were marching to the Iberian peninsular. The third reason was the clincher. I don't think I've tried a 1941 Barbarossa since about 1995!

Re the ships, I was brought up to believe ships are a 'she' and will go to the grave writing in the same way. I assumed this was universal and it was only relatively recently (probably at the time I started posting draft write-ups) that I became aware other countries had different treatments.

The refusal to use the feminine to describe ships appears to be on the increase. I have bought an increasing number of books recently that refer to ships as 'it' and I can only assume the rise in number reflects some sort of PC involvement perhaps. I can't adequately describe how much 'it' p***** me right off - not for some 'domineering patriarchal' nonsense, but because after a lifetime of 'she', 'it' (or even 'he') just sounds WRONG.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/26/ships-she-royal-navy-language-row-female

I guess my write up's (which use 'she' and 'her' for ships) probably annoys those who believe 'he' or 'it' is correct. Sorry about that


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:37:32 AM   
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Please don't apologize ! I was also taught at school that in English, a ship is referred to as "she". I don't know wheter there are French ships named for ladies, and in that case, whether their sailors use "he" or "she". On the other hand, since Richelieu was a man, and a ship uses the masculine gender in French, "she" was so surprising, that in my first reading of the sentense, I did not understand.
Some people might argue that using English as a nearly international language is the fastest way to turn it into "gibbenglish"

Use "she" to your heart's content for the Richelieu, just make sure it does not get sunk : after all, she is my Immortals dedication ship in the latest version of board WiF

Best Regards

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:55:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Admiral Delabroglio

....after all, she is my Immortals dedication ship in the latest version of board WiF

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Cool! can you post a picture


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 9:49:34 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 9:53:08 AM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 12:26:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice one. Why are the names different though? I can't make out the aircraft but why Crocodile on Richelieu?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 1:31:33 PM   
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Crocodile : the ultimate armored amphibian...

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 6:52:51 PM   
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Amsterdam was taken by the Germans.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 6:53:54 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 6:55:42 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 7:17:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Admiral Delabroglio
Side note : in French, a ship is supposed to be "he", not "she". It was quite a shock to see Warspite1 refer to the "Richelieu" as a "she"...

No wonder the French kept losing naval wars against the British, if they think that ships are "he".

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:15:13 PM   
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Rebase:
Germany

Three fighters and a stuka start making their way east

Reorganisation: None



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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:22:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		"No wonder the French kept losing naval wars against the British, if they think that ships are "he"."

Tourville, Duquesne, De Grasse and Jean Bart respectfully disagree with that statement.
True, after the French Revolution, most of the French nobles fled France, and since all the navy officers came from the nobility, France was left with a rump of a navy with no officers.
During the 17th and 18th centuries, victories were not quite that one sided.
For instance, the Battle of Yorktown, during the American Independance war, might very well have been an American defeat if French Admiral De Grasse had not beaten British admirals Hood and Graves.

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