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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/22/2020 6:35:40 PM   
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T001 Orders to South Commander

To fulfill the general directives of the Stavka, specific orders were given to the Commander.




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:20:48 PM   
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T001 Turn overview of South Commander @Shaggy

The first move in the South was generally quite expectedly painful.
However, in any situation, you can find the pros. The fact that the German tank units were able to reach the borders of Romania allowed me to withdraw most of the southern front in a shorter time, but the strategic position as a whole remains rather unpleasant. First of all, because of the feed that arose in Lviv:




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:22:45 PM   
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T001 Turn overview of South Commander @Shaggy

If we take for the average that there are about 8 thousand people in the division, then around were around 192 thousand people, this is not counting the guns of mortar tanks, as well as ammunition depots and other valuable property, including some small and small enterprises large cities.
And yet in such a bad situation, suffering heavy losses and defeats, the Soviet troops showed heroic resistance.
The strike of 15 infantry corps, namely the 45th infantry division under the command of Major General Ivan Ivanovich Fedyuninsky, established land communication with parts of 28 infantry corps in the most difficult environment and lack of information, acting at their own peril and risk, having established communication with the commander of the 22 mechanized corps, it was established communication and communication with the higher command, and although help might have been in vain, the commanders did not allow slackness in the units during such a difficult period of time.





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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:23:52 PM   
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T001 Turn overview of South Commander @Shaggy

In the Soviet newspapers appears the commander of 36 Soviet corps and his soldiers who were able to cut the highway on June 25 north-west of the large Soviet city of Rovno, also establishing a connection with the higher command.





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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:25:22 PM   
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T001 Turn overview of South Commander @Shaggy

I also want to praise myself a little. In the first move, it was in the South that most victories were won over the German invaders.

I tried very hard (Irony)





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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:27:10 PM   
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T001 Turn overview of South Commander @Shaggy

I also want to praise myself a little. In the first move, it was in the South that most victories were won over the German invaders.

I tried very hard (Irony)


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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/23/2020 5:46:05 PM   
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T001 Problems at the Center

@Aaron @Eishen @Shaggy Commanders! Let's see the results in the Center. We see that part of the orders has not been fulfilled and the situation is dangerous.
1. The pocket is not closed and now on the 2nd move the Germans can quickly advance infantry along this territory to the Dnieper.
2. The defense on the Dvina is not busy. Through this hole, the Germans will freely cross the Dvina and go beyond Vitebsk to the rear of the North-Western Front.
3. Two divisions left in the center and will be destroyed on the second move. Just. As a gift to the Germans. Do we have so many troops?
4. Through this hole, the Germans will freely cross the Dnieper and go beyond Mogilev to the rear of the Western Front.
I would like to hear suggestions @Aaron how now to fix it on the 2nd move? I hope he has a plan.

Commanders! Now, in the first moves, such miscalculations give the Germans victory. Just. They don’t even have to think. We have no extra troops. Follow orders or if you do not agree, stop and challenge. But do not silently do otherwise. Or it will be the fastest team game.

P.S. The commander corrected what he could, but had to send the officers of the NKVD to him for supervision. The case is not good ....




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/24/2020 9:14:51 AM   
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Good to see that STAVKA has a firm grip.

Good job in the south and I look forward to seeing the north as the fascist grouping @ Riga looks to be at risk of being isolated as well as having the march of the FBDs being slowed by hex-flipping.

As a general point, it's often a good idea to have units, especially surrounded ones, snuggle up to the fascists, however distasteful that might be. Having an adjacent enemy unit at the start of your turn increases fatigue, (by reducing recovery), and reduces MPs.

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GoC 002 Axis - 5/30/2020 8:36:11 PM   
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T002 Axis Allocations

Ground commanders are split between prioritising points for HQ Build Ups or for alternatives such as leader changes. As a compromise only some points are allowed for manual air swaps and reassigning units. But systematic leadership changes will be postponed until a bank of points are built up for HQ Builds Ups and we are certain more will not be needed for that.

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ALLOCATIONS T002
- Team manager is responsible if sequence below needs to change
- Ground commanders must do rail repair along rail repair routes described above AND take control and hold in this turn hexes for rail repair next turn
- Do not reassign construction from OKH/army groups HQs to armies/corps
- Do not directly assign Flamms
- Can reassign OKH/SUs except constr
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2nd & 6th - Air
- Suggest Stab/JG 53, III./JG 53, Erg./JG 51, II./JG 27, Stab/JG 27, III./JG 27 are swapped to Bf109E3, then a fighter group in Germany and the remaining 25 Bf109E3 in the pool swapped to I./JG 53
- Suggest 2 or 3 He111H-4 air groups are swapped to He111H-3
Command
- All airbases, airgroups and air HQs including settings
Control
- airgroups and airbases controlled by ground commanders unless otherwise detailed by air commander
Points - 11, tell if needed
Rail Cap - 0, tell if needed
Leaders - Korten, tell if other needed
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3rd, 4th or 5th - North
- Suggest 269 and 290 are reassigned to infantry armies
Command
- AGN exc 101RHG, FHC
- 6, 26 both must be reassigned to your HQs
- 94, 96, 98 (arrivals in Germany)
- 101RHGHQ/207Pioneer can be reassigned to your units
Control
- FBD 2,3 & 4
Points - 6, tell if more needed
Rail Cap - 94, 96, 98, tell if more needed
Leaders - Hell, any Finn, tell if other needed
Garrison - Riga
Boundary - unchanged
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3rd, 4th or 5th - Centre
Command
- AGC but not XXIVPz or XXXXVIPz or 6 or 26, 281Sec, 285 Sec, 101RHG HQ
- LAH but must reassign to your HQs
Control
- 6, 16A after North has finished [Edit: lots of MPs were left and to cover for North taking all of VI this turn]
- no control on FBDs
- XIVPz except 16Pz but cannot contain more than four divisions [when Centre and South meet East of the Pripyat marshes XIVPz will revert to South command]
Points - 2, plus 2 to replace Fahrmbacker or Weisenberger with Model, plus 5 if appointing vKnobbelsdorf to Panzer corps, tell if more needed
Rail Cap - LAH (do not leave loaded), Wiking (do not leave loaded), 9 Pz (do not leave loaded), tell if more needed
Leaders - vKnobelsdorff from pool to a Panzer Corps, tell if other needed, if weisenberger or Fahrmbacher not replaced in turn will be replaced end of turn by CoS
Garrison - Kaunas, Vilnius, Brest-Litovsk
Boundary
- unchanged
- You should NOT expect the other commander to protect your flanks in the Pripyat swamp area.
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3rd, 4th or 5th - South
Command
- AGS exc LAH, XXXIV, Southern Axis Allies, 255, 267
- XXIVPz and XXXXVIPz but cannot contain more than four motorised divisions each, and no other onmap non-motorised can be assigned to it (Centre can reassign infantry division from it)[when Centre and South meet East of the Pripyat marshes XXIVPz will revert to Centre command, and it must contain, or South must reassign to OKH, two motorised divisions one of which must be Panzer]
Control
- When XXIVPz and XXXXVIPz command returns to Centre it must be near the Centre-South boundary
- No control over XIVPz/{HQ, Wiking, 9Pz}
Points - 5, tell if more needed
Rail Cap - 7 (do not leave loaded), FBD1 (already loaded - do not leave loaded)
Leaders - any southern axis ally, vKnobelsdorff from pool to a Panzer Corps, tell if other needed
Garrison - Rovno, Tarnopol
Boundary
- unchanged
- You should NOT expect the other commander to protect your flanks in the Pripyat swamp area.
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1st & 7th Chief of Staff
Command - OKH/HQ, 290


The team appoint a war artist, eskuche, to fulfill the propaganda role. However they are known for their avant garde interpretations. The meaning of their first work has me scratching my head ...




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/30/2020 9:41:50 PM   
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Good to see that STAVKA has a firm grip.

Good job in the south and I look forward to seeing the north as the fascist grouping @ Riga looks to be at risk of being isolated as well as having the march of the FBDs being slowed by hex-flipping.

As a general point, it's often a good idea to have units, especially surrounded ones, snuggle up to the fascists, however distasteful that might be. Having an adjacent enemy unit at the start of your turn increases fatigue, (by reducing recovery), and reduces MPs.


I've written a small bit on snuggling with fascists. It's my second job in case being an artist for the Wehrmacht doesn't work out for me...hmmm.

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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/30/2020 10:14:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: eskuche


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Good to see that STAVKA has a firm grip.

Good job in the south and I look forward to seeing the north as the fascist grouping @ Riga looks to be at risk of being isolated as well as having the march of the FBDs being slowed by hex-flipping.

As a general point, it's often a good idea to have units, especially surrounded ones, snuggle up to the fascists, however distasteful that might be. Having an adjacent enemy unit at the start of your turn increases fatigue, (by reducing recovery), and reduces MPs.


I've written a small bit on snuggling with fascists. It's my second job in case being an artist for the Wehrmacht doesn't work out for me...hmmm.


If you ask me, keep the day job.




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 5/31/2020 8:06:31 PM   
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Air turn 2/ Part 2 of Nekronion trying to learn arcane advanced air warfare methods in War in the East:

My to-do list for this turn:
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1.Ground support on
2.Fighter Intercept to 25%
3.Manual plane switching according to Telemecus instructions
4.Railyard strat bombing campaign + Bombing the Osinovets port
5.Ground commanders can recon and ground bomb
6.Switch the LW Befehlshaber Mitte to outdated Fighters
7.Turn off replacements of III.KG 2 due to withdrawing in turn 12
8.Switch the air groups using Do 17Z-2 (No models left in the pool) to HE-111 H3
9.Distribute recon equally among the army airbases (4 recon+2 strat recon and 5 in NR)
10.Unfuck the Romanian bombers
11.Test where the Soviet airforce (Currently 2.7k deployed) is deployed with recon
12.Air supply and recon coordination with ground


1 & 2: Just normalizing the settings from T1 shenanigans

3: I decide to trust Telemecus in his wisdom and follow the suggestion/order
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Suggest Stab/JG 53, III./JG 53, Erg./JG 51, II./JG 27, Stab/JG 27, III./JG 27 are swapped to Bf109E3, then a fighter group in Germany and the remaining 25 Bf109E3 in the pool swapped to I./JG 53
- Suggest 2 or 3 He111H-4 air groups are swapped to He111H-3


4.As described in turn 1 I will try to cripple Soviet rail capacaty early on. Osinovets is planned to be bombed, however no plan survives contact with the enemy.

5&12.Pretty straightforward. I mainly recon airbases at this point and let the ground commanders be flexible for now.

6,7&8:More switching and saving on aircraft

9: With every ground commander doing his own recon for the most part, distributing it somewhat equally for now is just fair.

10:

11: The Soviets didn't send all of their planes to the Reserve, once I locate them I can plan my next move.


The position of the Soviet air deployment quickly reveals itsself:



The Soviets really don't want Osinovets to be bombed. With the hex still out of escort range and the Finns frozen, bombing it now would throw away planes for little gain thus the Luftwaffe has to look for prey elsewhere.

And they find it with some unprotected recon bases all over the Soviet front.







At first I suspect a fighter trap of some kind, but thorough recon reveals no Soviet fighter groups nearby, thus giving free real estate for even unescorted raids.
Once all is done and over 68 rare and valuable Soviet long range recon is no more:



With Soviet logistical losses:



Strat bombing and ground support caused a few bomber losses, but they are replaceable.




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 5/31/2020 8:59:23 PM   
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Number 10 might need more elaboration?

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Nekronion, Axis Air Commander
Seems like most of his deployed planes are in the Fighter doomstack in Osinovets





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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 5/31/2020 9:33:32 PM   
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T002 Axis North Start of Turn




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Manstein complains - I came to fight a war - not build a railway!


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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 5/31/2020 9:57:04 PM   
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T002 Axis North End of Turn

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warwizard55, Axis North Commander
Was unable to get the garrison of kiev in place on turn two, had made some last minute shuffling of pz units to get a solid line of zones of control up and lining the front. on the rail repair was unable to reach the position needed for one of the FDC's due to the combat units not having swept the area while bypassing to the north or soutn.The FDC commander complained that he had to send out patrols and work parties to clear road blocks and move refugees off of the roads. There were some SS folks about starting to direct some of the people to camps off the side of the road. Made our job easier to not have the roads clogged. Had some misunderstanding of orders, and as such I had the VI corps deploying north, turns out I need to return the VI corp back over to AGC, which I shall do as soon as I can get other troops to the area to maintain flank security.





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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 5/31/2020 11:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Telemecus

Number 10 might need more elaboration?

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Nekronion, Axis Air Commander
Seems like most of his deployed planes are in the Fighter doomstack in Osinovets










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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 12:22:04 AM   
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Give me a place to stand and I will move the death star


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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 12:43:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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ORIGINAL: Zorch





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Give me a place to stand and I will move the death star


Which Death Star?




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 1:00:40 AM   
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Which Death Star?


This one?




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 2:28:24 AM   
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Which Death Star?


This one?




Jabba knows how to deal with it.




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RE: GoC 001 Axis - 6/1/2020 11:52:38 AM   
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Does the title jokingly refers to a certain brand of beer or to the current corona pandemic? If it is the latter it sounds a bit cynical to me when remebering all the loss
of life all over the world due to this awfull virus.

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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 1:18:47 PM   
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T002 Axis Centre

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Fetterkrolle, Axis Centre Commander
Again nothing special. Resealed the brest litovsk pocket. Left as few units as possible to hold the main pocket to be slowly cleared out. Pushed up to the landbrige and flanking vitebsk from the north. 3 divisions were stolen from AGCs command this turn. They will now be atleast 2 turns away from the landbridge. Hoping it wont come back to hurt me later.






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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/1/2020 3:48:30 PM   
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T002 Axis South

As anticipated, both the Kovel and Rovno pockets were broken but no Soviet units escaped. The Soviets appear to have done a full retreat across the entire southern front all the way back to Kiev and pulled the troops along the Romania border as far back as possible. Lots of recon is done to determine where they’ve retreated to and to find that there are no Soviet fighters or bombers anywhere to be found in the southern front. This allows for unescorted bombers to perform ground attacks and support.

Since the Soviets pulled back so far, this leaves lots of undefended territory but no major pocket opportunities so land grab it is! Across the top half of the front the 3 panzer corps (XXIV, III, XXXXVI) surge forward meeting little resistance capturing Zhitomir, Proskurov, and Vinnitsa as well as cutting the rail line into the marshes at Belokorovichi. Along the Romania border, the 11th Army and the 4th Rum Army push forward to capture Kishinev and open a path for the XXXXVIII Panzer Corp to cross the Dnestr River to pocket a few units and link up with the XXXXVI Panzer Corps. Unfortunately, a few unlucky attacks at the end fail and the pocket will easily be broken and most likely leave the 11th Panzer Division isolated.

The 6th Army reseals the Rovno pocket and crosses the Goryn River moving towards Zhitomir to support the panzer thrust. The 17th Army reseals the Kovel pocket and begins liquidating the Lvov pocket from the north while the 3rd Rum Army begins liquidating the Lvov pocket from the south.

Overall, a pretty uneventful turn. Most of the Panzer Corps should receive decent fuel supply out of Romania barring any unforeseen Soviet attacks. All of the conquered territory will also clear the way for a swift infantry advance The plan next turn is to most likely drive southeast along the Southern Bug River to cut off land routes to Odessa and cut off any remaining retreating Soviet units. But depending on the Soviet response, there is the potential to consider other strategic objectives further east including Kiev, Cherkassy, Kirovograd, and a crossing of the Dnepr.

If all the Soviets want to do is run... then we will chase and hunt them down!




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/6/2020 6:19:35 PM   
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T002 Soviet Nord sector

German tanks, probable objectives of the offensive and the general line of withdrawal of our troops this turn.




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T002 Soviet Center sector

German tanks, probable objectives of the offensive and the general line of withdrawal of our troops this turn.




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T002 Soviet South sector

German tanks, probable objectives of the offensive and the general line of withdrawal of our troops this turn.




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/6/2020 6:38:53 PM   
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T002 Soviet, t001 result

So comrades, not bad.
It turned out especially well in the South. Although the player is more experienced there, the jaws of the wolf snapped in vain.
They caught only one tank division.




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RE: GoC 002 Axis - 6/8/2020 6:36:25 PM   
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T002 Soviet. South Commander "Shaggy" point of view

For me, this is a move of missed opportunity.
There was a strict bid order not to lose the division, and yet the final decision was mine.
Striking 135 divisions to unlock the Lviv pocket towards Dubno now seems like a pretty good idea.
Although at that time it seemed to me that the Lviv epic is a matter of 1-2 moves.
And that it’s not worth it.





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T002 Soviet. South Commander "Shaggy" point of view

The opportunity to save the 15th Motorized Rifle Division was also missed, the successful actions of German aviation on the march deprived truck engines of much-needed fuel.
Because of what, she stood in the steppes of Ukraine behind the units.
A lot of people who did not manage to cross the bridges over the Bug during these difficult hours were divided into living and dead.






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T002 Soviet. South Commander "Shaggy" point of view

My subjective feelings about where German tanks can go.
Honestly, I was very worried that in red places they will be able to force the Dnieper,
and a lot of goals where they can go Kirovograd / Cherkassy, ​​crossing the Dnieper beyond Cherkassy, ​​crossing the Dnieper near Kiev, Kiev itself.
Moreover, the dense German intelligence that a joke about intelligence bees on my face becomes a joke about our South.





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