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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/6/2020 8:40:20 AM   
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Impulse #3 (Axis)

No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes. No rail movement.

Land Movement:

Japan:
MOT 71,143->75,142
HQI 70,144->73,143
ENG Canton->93,141

Germany makes minor adjustments along the Dutch, and Belgian borders. In Poland the Army Group advance slowly towards Lodz, and Warsaw.

No land combats.

Air Rebase:

Japan:
LND2 Nanchang->Canton
NAV2 84,143->74,144

Germany:
FTR2 (Essen) -> 51,33
LND3 (Frankfurt) -> Aachen
FTR3 (Dusseldorf) -> Aachen

Italy:
LND3 (Turin) -> Saarbrucken

Reorganization:

Germany:
ATR3 -> ART in 51,33
HQI Reorganize three units on the West Front.

Italy:
HQA -> NAV2 in Genoa




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/6/2020 8:49:47 AM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 12:09:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5.

No wars

France - combined
USSR - combined
China - land
US - combined
CW - combined

Port strike:
None

Naval air:
None

Naval movement:
CW protects convoys in Cape St Vincent.
CW sails a CA-fleet to the Eastern Med.

France sends 2 CA to the Baltic 3-box

The US sends 2 SUBs towards Midway.

Naval combat:
CW elects to not initiate combat in Bay of Biscay nor Cape St. Vincent.
CW initiates in the Eastern Med.
Allies rolls 7
Axis rolls 2



What does Italy want to do?

Questions to ponder for Italy/Germany as well:
Does Italy want to initiate in the Bay of Biscay?
Does Germany want to react against the French CA that will initiate in the Baltic?

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 12:27:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		If Italy has 6 surprise points, then they will go with surface combat. Use 4 surprise points to reduce the damage suffered to 1D + 3A. Then use the remaining 2 surprise points to 1X on the CW fleet. Then the Italian force aborts to La Spezia. Garibaldi takes the first D result. If I made a miscalculation then please let me now.

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Italy will not react in BoB. I thought they couldn't anyway. Just kidding. Italy won't react in CSV.

Germany will not reinforce the Baltic Sea.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 12:52:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Naval combat continued:

D on CA Garibaldi, roll 9 - aborted
X on CA Manchester, roll 2 - destroyed
As Italy will abort the sea the aborts irrelevant.


The Italian ships abort to La Spezia.

France initiates in the Baltic.
Allies rolls 1
Axis rolls 5
France spends 4 surprise to chose submarine combat.
France increases the damage with the remaining surprisepoints.


Does Germany stay and fight?

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 12:56:59 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 12:57:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		And aborted CPs seek protection in Kiel.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/7/2020 1:03:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Naval combat continued:
Both stay and fight in the Baltic.
Allies rolls 9
Axis rolls 10
Search is unsuccessful and no more combat.

Italy does not initiate in Cape St Vincent.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/8/2020 8:08:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5, continued.

Ground strike:
None

Rail movement:
None

Land movement:
China captures to port of Kiungchow on Hainan.


France moves the MIL from Paris to the Belgian Border.
BEF deploys in northern France.


Land combat:
None

Air rebase:
Poland sends both their aircraft to Romania allowing the pilots to continue on in the RAF.

New weather is:

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 8:03:32 AM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

Germany DOW Belgium. One US entry marker added. (4 rolled)

Will Belgium align to France, or CW?

How will the Belgian units be placed? Not shown in the picture is 1 TERR, and 2 CPs.

Note: If France is considered for aligning Belgium, then, in order to avoid later surprises, it might be beneficial to be updated on the rule deviation on Vichy creation.

Edit: Pictured replaced with a better cut one.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 11:00:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please explain what you mean by rules deviation 😊

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 11:17:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		In RAC there are a few rule deviations. Rule changes from the WIF version that MWIF is built upon.

I cut in the relevant change shortly.

I only mentioned it so that there will be no surprise later on, because I know that not all has read the entire RAC. Especially not when they were familiar to the WIF rules.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 11:22:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		The last point may be the most relevant one. Note that it include minor countries colonies as well.

Cut from RAC:

17. Vichy France
....
17.2 Determine control
....
[Deviation (taken from RAW8.21 draft)
• All Axis controlled hexes in Vichy controlled minor countries and territories immediately revert (see 13.7.5)
to Vichy French control.
• Axis controlled hexes in Free French controlled minor countries and territories remain under Axis control.
• All Allied controlled hexes in Free French controlled minor countries and territories immediately revert to
Free French control.
• All Allied controlled hexes in Vichy French controlled minor countries and territories may now be
immediately reverted to Vichy control. Vichy France is hostile to all Allied major powers that do not
immediately revert all such hexes to Vichy control.
• Finally all Vichy controlled minor countries France has gained controlled of since the start of the game
immediately become controlled by an Axis major power nominated by the major power that installed Vichy
France. The minor country is conquered if it aligned to France and aligned if it was conquered by France.
If more than one minor country is available to be allocated they may be allocated to different major powers.]

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 12:01:40 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/9/2020 12:16:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Align Belgium with France.

Set up:
The two INF in Antwerp.
CAV in Liege

MIL in Boma.
Convoys in Boma.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 9:51:58 AM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

Land: Germany, Japan
Combined: Italy
Naval:

Germany play one offensive on Rundstedt.

No port strikes. No naval air.

Italy send 2 CA to the West Med 4-box.

Italy decline to initiate in CSV, but begin the hunt for Allied shipping in the West Med.

Edit: No additional Axis air.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 10:01:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Italy finds the Allied shipping on a roll of 5, while the Allies rolls a 10. This gives the Italian fleet enough surprise to eliminate all the Allied CPs.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 10:31:42 AM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

Strategic Bombing:
Italy:
NAV2 -> Bayonne




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 10:35:38 AM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 11:17:43 AM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

Ground Strike:
Germany:
LND2 (Cologne) -> Brussels
LND3 (Aachen) -> 54,31

France can intercept the raid NW of Reims (54,31) with one FTR2. Germany can counter-intercept with one FTR3. Will France intercept the German bomber?




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 3:56:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

Sep/Oct '39
Impulse #7 (Axis)

Ground Strike:
Germany:
LND2 (Cologne) -> Brussels
LND3 (Aachen) -> 54,31

France can intercept the raid NW of Reims (54,31) with one FTR2. Germany can counter-intercept with one FTR3. Will France intercept the German bomber?





Intercept and abort as soon bomber cleared or aborted.
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 4:51:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germany decline to use their FTR3. the bomber is on its own.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 4:55:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		The German bomber was aborted, but the French fighter was shot down. The French pilot survives to fight another day.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 5:00:03 PM   
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Both of the Antwerp defenders were hit.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:08:51 PM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

Rail Movement:
Japan:
MAR Pusan -> Hangshow
MIL Tientsin ->Shanghai

Land Movement:

Japan:
CAV 71,145->71,141
MOT 75,142->74,141
HQI 73,143->73,142
INF 74,141->73,140
WAR Hangshow ->83,146
INF 84,143->84,141
INF 6-3 84,144->84,143
INF 8-3 84,144->85,144
INF Div 84,140 ->83,139
MAR Div 85,141->85,140
ENG 93,141-93,140
AA Canton->90,142

Italy:
MTN -> 61, 32
TERR -> 119,66

German forces advance into Belgium, and in Poland the German units close in on Lodz, and Warsaw.

Debark
HQI Yamamoto->96,139(Hainan Res)
MAR Canton

Land Combat:

Japan:
Yamamoto (HQI) assaults the Chinese MIL on Hainan.

Germany:
Assault on Antwerp with 3 units, all doubled by Rundstedt (HQA). Current odds 36:9.
Automatic assault on Liege. Odds 41:3.
Blitz on 55,32 with 3 units, all doubled by Rundstedt (HQA). Current odds 34:5.

Japan adds 3 points in shore bombardment on the attack on the MIL. Making it 11:1.

No HQ support.

German air (FTR2 + LND3) add 10 points to the assault on Liege.
Italian air (LND3) add 2 points in ground support to the blitz on hex 55,32.

Edit: I forgot to write that a doubled engineer uses its ability to negate the river for the blitz on hex 55,32.

Edit 2:Changed the initial odds on the blitz on 55,32 to the correct one.



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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:14:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germany begins with the assault on Antwerp. Or I guess that it is an Assualt. If France had prefered blitz I can go back and change the attack.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:20:35 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:24:26 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:27:14 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/10/2020 6:31:35 PM   
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