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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 1:38:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah i also agree that 60$ seems on high side. But if the OP waits at Christmas time or Pearl Harbor anniversary might be a promotion.

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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 8:16:26 AM   
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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 12:02:36 PM   
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How can you still be selling this for 66 pounds....its years old


If you aren't astute enough to recognize what that means then you likely don't have the mental acuity necessary to be able to take this game on.


Sorry if this may have come across the wrong way. I have a strong reputation for bluntness and tactlessness.

It was intended as a 'throwing down of the gauntlet" in the hopes of getting your ire up a bit so you might respond to the challenge.

As you can likely glean from the multitude of responses this is the greatest wargame ever made and worth every penny many, many times over.

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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 3:15:45 PM   
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How can you still be selling this for 66 pounds....its years old


Think of it as a rather nice wine.


Aye. And when you've opened up the game and are grappling with that monster, come by the forums. There's usually a really nice whine here too.

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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 3:18:56 PM   
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How can you still be selling this for 66 pounds....its years old


Think of it as a rather nice wine.


Aye. And when you've opened up the game and are grappling with that monster, come by the forums. There's usually a really nice whine here too.


You get Cheese with that whine as well....GP

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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 4:24:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The way I look at the price of this game is that it costs (costed) the equivalent of two good books on the Pacific War. I've probably bought a dozen of books over the last two to three years on the Pacific War alone. And if fact, one book (a biography on Adm Nimitz) was written in the 70's and another (Shattered Sword) was written around 2000 I believe. So using both price and "publish date" as criteria, this game fits nicely with my Pacific War book collection.

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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 4:33:24 PM   
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RE: Price of game - 11/2/2019 5:52:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		- What if I tell you can play this game for the rest of your life for a measly 66 quid?
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RE: Price of game - 11/3/2019 2:59:43 PM   
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RE: Price of game - 11/3/2019 3:39:09 PM   
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I bought this game with the full intention of playing, but am finding it hard to even start!

Start small - play Coral Sea scenario for one side, then another. Then advance to Guadalcanal, then to 1000 miles War.

Smaller scenarios leave away a lot of stuff so that you can put your mind to a subset of things. And all of them leave away broad strategic considerations

After you get familiar with the pace, you can try Grand Campaign. It is highly adviceable to read some AARs before that though. There are some newbie-friendly ones too.

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RE: Price of game - 11/3/2019 4:22:10 PM   
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RE: Price of game - 11/3/2019 7:01:02 PM   
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Yeah, this is definitely a game where you almost HAVE to start with the small scenarios, just to get a grasp on some of the mechanics.



Unless you got your small scenario primer training done in Uncommon Valor.

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RE: Price of game - 11/3/2019 7:28:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow - haven't fired that one up in quite some time. And if you want to go into ancient history there is always Pacwar, but the game engine is different.

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RE: Price of game - 11/4/2019 12:54:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Out for my daily 3-mi walk (5k for you metric folks) this morning something else struck me about the price point of this game. The cost without discount ($70) was about what I pay for a bottle of whiskey (Glenfiddich, single malt). With 30% discount, was even cheaper. I suspect this game will last me a whole lot longer than the bottle of whiskey will.

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RE: Price of game - 11/4/2019 2:18:52 PM   
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I suspect this game will last me a whole lot longer than the bottle of whiskey will.

Man, a word of caution - this game will make you buy more whiskey

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RE: Price of game - 11/4/2019 5:38:53 PM   
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Think we get it here for 50 or 55

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RE: Price of game - 11/4/2019 6:53:59 PM   
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I suspect this game will last me a whole lot longer than the bottle of whiskey will.

Man, a word of caution - this game will make you buy more whiskey
And that would be bad ... why?
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Glenfiddich 70 $, WAT???

Think we get it here for 50 or 55
We have high "sin taxes" here that accounts for the $15 to $20 price difference.

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RE: Price of game - 11/5/2019 2:01:53 AM   
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I suspect this game will last me a whole lot longer than the bottle of whiskey will.

Man, a word of caution - this game will make you buy more whiskey
And that would be bad ... why?
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Glenfiddich 70 $, WAT???

Think we get it here for 50 or 55
We have high "sin taxes" here that accounts for the $15 to $20 price difference.

And there are various marks of Glenfiddich, usually the more aged cost more.

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RE: Price of game - 11/5/2019 2:10:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rkr1958
I suspect this game will last me a whole lot longer than the bottle of whiskey will.

Man, a word of caution - this game will make you buy more whiskey
And that would be bad ... why?
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Glenfiddich 70 $, WAT???

Think we get it here for 50 or 55
We have high "sin taxes" here that accounts for the $15 to $20 price difference.

And there are various marks of Glenfiddich, usually the more aged cost more.
I'm afraid I always get the 12-year old. But maybe one day I'll splurge and get the 21-year old (i.e., when I retire).



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RE: Price of game - 11/5/2019 2:26:36 AM   
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And there are various marks of Glenfiddich, usually the more aged cost more.


]I'm afraid I always get the 12-year old. But maybe one day I'll splurge and get the 21-year old (i.e., when I retire).


Well, see if you can get a sip from a friend before you splurge. I bought the 18 year Glenmorangie and found I didn't like it as much as the 15 year version. I was annoyed with myself for spending the extra $ for something I didn't like as much. Everyone's palate has its own preferences and if you can please yours for a lesser price, life is good!

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RE: Price of game - 11/5/2019 8:57:51 PM   
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I bought the 18 year Glenmorangie and found I didn't like it as much as the 15 year version.


Older generally has more of a 'peaty' 'flavor'. Its an acquired taste. It too prefer my 15 year old.

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RE: Price of game - 11/5/2019 8:59:28 PM   
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come by the forums. There's usually a really nice whine here too.


But I don't wanna.

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RE: Price of game - 11/6/2019 12:04:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Definitely wait around for one of the Matrix sales, War in the Pacific:AE is a good deal when on sale.

To my mind, part of the essential arithmetic is allowing for such a niche product; i.e., if you want the best example of WW2 Pacific Theater grand strategy... this is it. Period. I think that is worth a premium. And besides, Andy Mac was just hovering around releasing (unofficial) scenario 1 and 2 updates to AI, units and map city locations 10 YEARS after launch and quite a few since official Matrix improvement support ended. Adding additional cities in certain locations will help the AI execute the plans better, so it's all good to my thinking.

Just be ready to set aside some time to browse this forum and find the tools and tips, etc. the community has so graciously provided. Kull's Allied and Japanese Start spreadsheets are a godsend for newbs on a mission to play the full campaign.
Cheers!

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RE: Price of game - 6/12/2020 2:41:10 PM   
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RE: Price of game - 6/12/2020 3:35:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's great value for money: I've sunk way too much time into this game, and I have every intention of sinking even more time into it. At cost per hour played, you get an excellent return.

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RE: Price of game - 6/13/2020 5:54:02 AM   
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https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4758327&mpage=1&key=�

Although it rather looks like he has had WITPAE for at least 5 years, and well before the above post - see post Post #: 5325

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2236936&mpage=178&key=�

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RE: Price of game - 6/13/2020 7:09:19 AM   
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Looks like the OP never came back...here anyway.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4758327&mpage=1&key=?

Although it rather looks like he has had WITPAE for at least 5 years, and well before the above post - see post Post #: 5325

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2236936&mpage=178&key=?


I always find it to be quite informative to check on a poster's history. Ian, you greatly underestimated how long the OP has had AE. Post #1705 in this thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1637340&mpage=57&key=�

shows he has had the game since at least August 2009. Which is no later than 2 months after the game was released. Other threads older than the ones you posted confirm his ownership of the game. Hence the premise of all those who answered in this thread thinking the OP was weighing up whether the cost justified buying the game was merited, were wrong. The OP already had the game and his concern had earlier been whether he needed to buy the game again, at what he thought was a too high price, when he had to move from Win7 to Win10.

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RE: Price of game - 6/13/2020 8:55:49 AM   
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But that's why there are sales. This has very devout following.

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RE: Price of game - 6/13/2020 10:27:59 AM   
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Looks like the OP never came back...here anyway.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4758327&mpage=1&key=?

Although it rather looks like he has had WITPAE for at least 5 years, and well before the above post - see post Post #: 5325

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2236936&mpage=178&key=?


I always find it to be quite informative to check on a poster's history. Ian, you greatly underestimated how long the OP has had AE. Post #1705 in this thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1637340&mpage=57&key=�

shows he has had the game since at least August 2009. Which is no later than 2 months after the game was released. Other threads older than the ones you posted confirm his ownership of the game. Hence the premise of all those who answered in this thread thinking the OP was weighing up whether the cost justified buying the game was merited, were wrong. The OP already had the game and his concern had earlier been whether he needed to buy the game again, at what he thought was a too high price, when he had to move from Win7 to Win10.

Alfred


Apart from that, his spelling is appalling.

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RE: Price of game - 6/13/2020 1:24:17 PM   
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