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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 5/31/2020 8:44:53 PM   
jesperpehrson


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No wars.

CW - combined
USSR - combined
China - land
France - naval
US - combined

Port attacks:
None

Naval air:
CW sends a Vildebeest into the Italian Coast

Naval movement:
CW sends a TRS with a Beaufighter to Gibraltar.
CW protects their shipping in the Bay of Biscay.


Naval combat:
CW does not initiate naval combat anywhere.

Does Italy wish to initiate in the Italian Coast?


If so which ship to flip?
If so any air-reactions?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/1/2020 6:42:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		No thank-you, nothing for Italy, no initiation and if the CW initiates then nothing then either.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/4/2020 7:10:48 AM   
jesperpehrson


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No naval combat.

Strategic bombardment:
CW bombs Essen.


Rail movement:
USSR rails an INF to Minsk from Siberia.

Land movement:
USSR shuffles some units along the German border.
CW moves in around HQ Balbo.

Air rebase:
CW rebases two Beaufighters to Sardinia.

HQ reorg:
None

Weather Axis impulse #7

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/5/2020 6:23:10 PM   
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Impulse: 7 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Combined (you learn something new everyday. I thought I could still initiate naval combat if I flew naval air missions on a land action. Apparently you can't so the Germans switch to a combined)
Italy: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air:
Germany

2 x fighters and 2 x NAV fly to the 2 box of the Bay of Biscay

Naval Movement:
Germany

Three subs head for the North Atlantic

The Germans intend to initiate combat in both the North Atlantic and Bay of Biscay

North Atlantic
Axis - 5
Allies - 8

No Combat

Bay of Biscay (see below)




< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/11/2020 4:17:22 PM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/6/2020 6:21:43 PM   
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Land move

Strategic bombing Lanchow. Bomber whence

Ground strikes Tianshui with art and factor 2 bomber all missed target. Bomber whence.

Rail move the Motorized from Hengyang to Sian
We await the movement phase.




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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/7/2020 5:23:21 AM   
warspite1


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(Cont from post 573)

Naval Search:
Germany

The Germans bring in two NAV and two fighters to the Bay of Biscay. The CW has two aircraft they can bring in. What do the CW wish to do?

Axis - 10
Allies - 4

No combat.




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< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/11/2020 4:16:41 PM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/7/2020 3:43:28 PM   
jesperpehrson


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/11/2020 4:18:33 PM   
warspite1


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Strategic Bombing:
Japan

See above

Ground Strike:
Japan

See above

Rail Movement:
Japan

See above

Germany

6-3 (SS) INF to Konigsberg

Italy

5-4 MTN to Taranto

Land Movement:
Italy

Units in France continue east and units in Northern Italy head south. TERR gets to Mogadishu

Germany

Land units head east

Over to the Japanese. The last orders for the EuroAxis this impulse will be:


Rebase:
Italy

Send the Ba-65 to Venice

Germany

Ju-88A1 to Eastern Poland
Stuka to Eastern Poland

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/13/2020 9:53:06 AM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 3:52:07 PM   
jesperpehrson


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No wars or alignments.

USSR - combined.
China - land
CW - naval
France - pass
US - pass

Port attacks:
None

Naval air:
CW flies a Beaufighter to the Italian Coast 3-box

Naval movement:
The Queens sails from Singapore around the Cape towards Great Britain.
CW reinforces their fleet in the Eastern Med.
CW reinforces their fleet in the Italian Coast.
CW protects their convoys.

Naval combat:


CW will not initiate in the North Atlantic or the Bay of Biscay.
CW will initiate in both Eastern Med and Italian Coast.


Does Italy send any aircraft to either the Eastern Med or the Italian Coast?
Does Italy want to initiate in the North Atlantic? (CW has sent ships to protect shipping as seen in picture).

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 3:57:01 PM   
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Edit: If you didn't reinforce the BoB then the German will attempt to initiate please.

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/13/2020 3:58:12 PM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:14:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Edit: If you didn't reinforce the BoB then the German will attempt to initiate please.


That is actually impossible, as I did not reinforce in the BoB you will not be able to initiate there.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:24:33 PM   
jesperpehrson


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Status: offline 		Naval combat continued:

CW initiates in the Italian Coast, flipping CA Manchester.
Italy does not commit subs.
Allies rolls 3
Axis rolls 8
CW choses to fight only the 1-box.
CW has 8 surprisepoints.
CW choses to not make it a Naval Air combat.

Initial Italian risk is X D A
Initial CW risk D

CW uses the 8 points to raise Italian risk to 2X D 2A



How does Italy wish to distribute the risk?



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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:25:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Edit: If you didn't reinforce the BoB then the German will attempt to initiate please.


That is actually impossible, as I did not reinforce in the BoB you will not be able to initiate there.

warspite1

Yeah I knew that..... I didn't want to initiate anyway.....







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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:26:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		TRS first and then the cruisers - trying to spread the risk as much as possible please.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:37:34 PM   
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CW stays. Does Italy stay?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 4:53:54 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:04:00 PM   
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The Italian fleet in the Italian Coast aborts to La Spezia.

CW initiates in the Eastern Med. CA Australia is flipped.
Italy commits their SUBs as there are CPs to be destroyed.
Allies rolls a 7.
Axis rolls a 1.


0-box - 2 CP + TRS
3-box - a lot of ships including CVs
4-box - a french CA and a CW BB

Which boxes does Italy want to include? Do they want a SUB-combat or surfacecombat? Do they want to stick around for another round or do they want to abort? Where to?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:13:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Surface combat please - 0-box only. Max damage for no loss and the fleet stick around please

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/13/2020 5:16:09 PM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:15:17 PM   
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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:17:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

hmm?
warspite1

It was code I've now de-coded


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:26:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Naval combat continued:

Italy fights only against the 0-box.
Italy has 9 surprisepoints.
It will be a surfacecombat.
Italy uses their surprise to raise the CW risk to 2X.




Both Italy and CW stays.
Italy does not commit subs as convoys are gone.

Allies rolls 5
Axis rolls 2



Italy has to chose to fight the 3 or 4-box. Only the 3-box has a CV with CVP.
Does Italy stick around after this round?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:43:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Italy chooses the box without air, it maximises enemy damage and then gets the hell out of there please

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:46:37 PM   
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Italy elects to fight the 4-box.
As there are no bombers there is no risk for either side.

CW stays.
Italy aborts. Where?

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 5:53:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

Naval combat continued:

Italy elects to fight the 4-box.
As there are no bombers there is no risk for either side.

CW stays.
Italy aborts. Where?
warspite1

The Italians will put into La Spezia if poss please


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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/13/2020 6:05:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Naval combat continued:

Italy abort to La Spezia if possible.
FTR is aborted to Sicily as it cannot reach the mainland.
2 CA and a BB tries to run the gauntlet to reach La Spezia. CW tries to intercept in the Italian Coast.
A 10 is rolled and they safely reach harbour.

The germans does not initiate in the North Atlantic.

Groundstrikes:
None

Rail movement:
A russian AT-gun is railed to Minsk.

Landmovement:
Some minor adjustments in northern China



Air rebase:
CW rebases a Spitfire and a Hurricane to Plymouth.

End of turn. A 8 is rolled and the turn continues.
New weather:




< Message edited by jesperpehrson -- 6/13/2020 6:07:43 PM >

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/16/2020 9:48:01 PM   
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Land move for Japan.
Ground strike. Bomber from Canton misses next door Canton militia with a roll of 9.
Bomber whence
Rail move ATdiv frong Changsha to Sian. HQ Yamamoto to [76,135] Stack with Ki-30 bomber.
Await the Movement phase.

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RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) - 6/18/2020 3:26:23 PM   
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Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike:
Japan

See Above

Rail Movement:
Japan

See Above

Germany

Two INF Corps and an INF DIV head for Lodz

Land Movement:
Italy

The Italians continue the long trek home

Germany

The Germans continue the even longer trek east

Over to the Japanese


Air Rebase:
Italy

Ba.65 to east of Rome

Germany

None

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/18/2020 3:51:58 PM >

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