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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:15:50 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:16:50 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 8:44:50 AM   
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Let's not go there...



Super qualified for one of our mid manager levels I would say

I know the type all too well.
I worked for a senior manager who pretended to be dumb and asked everyone to put things in the simplest possible terms. It took a while before people realized that she really was that dumb



So what are you saying exactly?

Others managers pretended to be dumb (not being arrogant was in vogue at my company), but this one really was mega-dumb. She kept her job for ~10 years even after this became obvious. She was, however, for what it's worth,a really nice person.


I'm sorry, I still don't get it.



[begins reeling in imaginary fishing reel]


She may not have been very smart, intelligence wise, but if she could get people to do their jobs and do them well, then she was an effective manager. That is much better than someone who thinks that they know it all but really do not.

She didn't get people to do their jobs. The 5 managers who worked for her did that. She did what her managers told her to do, which was a problem because she couldn't tell when her managers were wrong.
She gave people the opposite of confidence.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 8:48:59 AM   
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Good morning everyone....GP

Let's not go there...



Super qualified for one of our mid manager levels I would say

I know the type all too well.
I worked for a senior manager who pretended to be dumb and asked everyone to put things in the simplest possible terms. It took a while before people realized that she really was that dumb



So what are you saying exactly?

Others managers pretended to be dumb (not being arrogant was in vogue at my company), but this one really was mega-dumb. She kept her job for ~10 years even after this became obvious. She was, however, for what it's worth,a really nice person.


I'm sorry, I still don't get it.



[begins reeling in imaginary fishing reel]


She may not have been very smart, intelligence wise, but if she could get people to do their jobs and do them well, then she was an effective manager. That is much better than someone who thinks that they know it all but really do not.


Huh?






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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 8:50:13 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 10:08:42 AM   
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Three in a row! What do they call this in bowling? A Triple Turkey!


Nein. It's just a 'turkey'.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 11:05:06 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 11:10:02 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 11:16:20 AM   
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I would comment but that would then get into the realm of a banned political subject of "many blood sucking creatures!"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 11:19:01 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:06:21 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:20:13 PM   
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is there not a common saying that a good manager is one who can get the best out of the guys smarter than they are?

The manager's job is to get his/her staff what they need to do their jobs. Any direction given is communication to clarify what is expected of them, not to make them feel inferior/subordinate. Encourage the good stuff, gently point out what needs to be corrected and always support your staff. The manager only looks good when the staff make him look good.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:46:41 PM   
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is there not a common saying that a good manager is one who can get the best out of the guys smarter than they are?

The manager's job is to get his/her staff what they need to do their jobs. Any direction given is communication to clarify what is expected of them, not to make them feel inferior/subordinate. Encourage the good stuff, gently point out what needs to be corrected and always support your staff. The manager only looks good when the staff make him look good.

You should write a book and do management consulting...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 3:47:31 PM   
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Did you mean Teethe?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 8:19:52 PM   
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is there not a common saying that a good manager is one who can get the best out of the guys smarter than they are?

The manager's job is to get his/her staff what they need to do their jobs. Any direction given is communication to clarify what is expected of them, not to make them feel inferior/subordinate. Encourage the good stuff, gently point out what needs to be corrected and always support your staff. The manager only looks good when the staff make him look good.

You should write a book and do management consulting...

In the armed forces I was a logistics officer, and it was clear that my role was to ensure the guys at the pointy end got what they needed to accomplish the mission. So when I transitioned to civilian work, the idea of supporting the guys doing the work was already ingrained.

I also saw enough arrogant SOB officers who thought rank was a license to harass underlings and treat them as lesser beings. Their men/women did the minimum for their arrogant bosses so they needed constant "supervision" - a vicious cycle. People will self-manage if you let them.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/26/2020 8:29:59 PM   
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https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/semi-crash-leaves-winnipeg-road-covered-in-french-fries-1.5001047

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 7:33:10 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 9:23:21 AM   
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Good morning.

It's important to answer some questions. Others, not so much.




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 10:35:53 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 5:32:09 PM   
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Oh, Look! Some good news for a change! Winnipeggers love free stuff!

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/semi-crash-leaves-winnipeg-road-covered-in-french-fries-1.5001047


Now if only someone would spill a truck of gravy and cheese, you could have 'road poutine'!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 6:13:34 PM   
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Oh, Look! Some good news for a change! Winnipeggers love free stuff!

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/semi-crash-leaves-winnipeg-road-covered-in-french-fries-1.5001047


Now if only someone would spill a truck of gravy and cheese, you could have 'road poutine'!

I have heard that teenagers rave over road food, but not so much on road kill. Vegans, I guess.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 11:14:01 PM   
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Good morning everyone....GP

Let's not go there...



Super qualified for one of our mid manager levels I would say

I know the type all too well.
I worked for a senior manager who pretended to be dumb and asked everyone to put things in the simplest possible terms. It took a while before people realized that she really was that dumb



So what are you saying exactly?

Others managers pretended to be dumb (not being arrogant was in vogue at my company), but this one really was mega-dumb. She kept her job for ~10 years even after this became obvious. She was, however, for what it's worth,a really nice person.


I'm sorry, I still don't get it.



[begins reeling in imaginary fishing reel]


She may not have been very smart, intelligence wise, but if she could get people to do their jobs and do them well, then she was an effective manager. That is much better than someone who thinks that they know it all but really do not.

She didn't get people to do their jobs. The 5 managers who worked for her did that. She did what her managers told her to do, which was a problem because she couldn't tell when her managers were wrong.
She gave people the opposite of confidence.

When I was still working I would always tell my staff that they did not work for me, they worked for the company, it confused a number of them them when they wanted to call me 'boss', and I said no, I am your coworker. When that conversation happened with vendors (ie - this person is the subject matter expert) it really made their heads spin.

On the few times I went out to a meal with a vendor and I paid the bill it impossibly made their heads spin.

And in Japan where I deferred to my female management team with vendors, it truly made heads spin. But my management team clearly enjoyed it.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/27/2020 11:26:06 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 2:24:13 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 2:31:28 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 9:14:59 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 11:24:17 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 2:15:43 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 2:16:24 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 6/28/2020 2:16:25 PM   
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To what is, what will be, and what should never be.





He forgot the wheel.

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