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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 1:53:35 AM   
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On the BBC news this morning they interviewed a gene scientist at "23 and Me", the company that does DNA analysis - mostly for ancestry but also for medical vulnerabilities. They ask their 12.5 million customers if they would be willing to participate in gene research in the future and 80% said yes. So they started a study of the COVID19 virus and asked their entire pool of willing customers to describe their experience with COVID, if any. They got replies back from a huge number of them and they analyzed their info on cases, symptoms, hospitalization, etc.

They ran that info against the genetic info from the same customers and determined that having Type O blood correlates with a 20% lower severity of illness (mostly based on hospital and ICU cases). The study was done in California - should be something in the news there.

I have type O blood. I put the resistance down to cantankerousness keeping people and the virus at bay ...


But the mosquitoes prefer type O blood, then A, the B, then AB.

I like to say around the ladies, especially the younger pretty ones, that eating garlic keeps the blood sucking creatures away. When the puff up as if to make an angry retort, I point out that only the females mosquitoes suck blood. For some reason, they seem to deflate. I understand it also keep ticks away as well.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 2:49:32 AM   
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What a coinky-dink, I just ordered some new Type-O t-shirts




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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 2:55:41 AM   
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I have not been tested yet, but if I haven't contracted COVID it may be due to having a slightly boosted immune system due to taking daily vitamins A, C and D, and Chicken Noodle Soup a couple times a week [don't let ChickenBoy know].

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 11:43:15 AM   
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In Florida, the number of new cases is up 10x since June 1 (from about 700/day to about 7,000)….but mortality is holding steady at about 38/day (that's down from the peak of about 50 in early May).

Saw and heard a few more reports today addressing this oddity, with most tying it to the fact that most new case are younger than the first wave in March/April. Didn't hear any speculation that the virus may be mutating to a weaker form, but I'll continue scanning reports.




There are reports of a new strain but the defining characteristic seems to be it is more infectious than the previous strain. As with all things Covid early information needs lots of corroboration but this is coming from sources with a good pedigree. It would not surprise me if this new strain also was less deadly but there is no evidence, yet, for that. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/505766-fauci-warns-new-coronavirus-mutation-may-cause-virus-to-spread

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 2:03:23 PM   
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Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.



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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 2:28:11 PM   
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Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.


The scammers were not too active until about two weeks ago when I started to get multiple calls a day from long distance codes all over the world, a lot of them with the line of VPN coding at the end (it starts with a V, so I am guessing it is VPN). I have call display and if I do not recognize the number, I don't pick up the phone. I have heard that just picking up the phone for a long enough period of time will enable some calls to use it to call a toll number that doesn't stop when you hang up again. It can run up thousands of dollars in charges without you knowing about it.
Scammers used to leave a robotic message on my answering machine, but now they seem to detect it and not bother.
Sometimes it is good to be a skeptic!

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 2:39:15 PM   
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In Florida, the number of new cases is up 10x since June 1 (from about 700/day to about 7,000)….but mortality is holding steady at about 38/day (that's down from the peak of about 50 in early May).

Saw and heard a few more reports today addressing this oddity, with most tying it to the fact that most new case are younger than the first wave in March/April. Didn't hear any speculation that the virus may be mutating to a weaker form, but I'll continue scanning reports.




There are reports of a new strain but the defining characteristic seems to be it is more infectious than the previous strain. As with all things Covid early information needs lots of corroboration but this is coming from sources with a good pedigree. It would not surprise me if this new strain also was less deadly but there is no evidence, yet, for that. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/505766-fauci-warns-new-coronavirus-mutation-may-cause-virus-to-spread

Interesting about the viral load being higher in the new strain, but no proof yet that it actually makes it more transmissible?

Until testing moves beyond just testing the 'suspected' cases and starts doing random, statistically significant testing of all the population, I don't see how we can get data that proves or disproves the theory.


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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 9:05:16 PM   
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Man, Jeff, sorry to hear that. It's got to be infuriating beyond belief.


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Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.





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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/3/2020 9:58:10 PM   
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My local newspaper this a.m. noted that hospitalizations are indeed increasing here, as noted yesterday. However, these additional cases (roughly 8 in the past two weeks) haven't required ventilators. Another indication that the increase in positive testing isn't like the March/April situation. No new mortalities here since May 26, and the daily number continues to decline statewide.

Reporting should decrease significantly over the holiday weekend, so there may be an artificial decrease that'll get adjusted with higher reports next week. But, overall, the situation continues to look pretty good around these parts.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 12:17:55 AM   
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Hopefully not considered political, but the collateral damage on this one will IMO be considerable. Before the shutdown I used to do volunteer tax services. Older folks are very prone to getting scammed. Being locked down makes it harder for people to help them. And the scumbags doing it really are.....scum.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 2:01:18 AM   
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Reports here are also going down as far as number of hospital beds taken by COVID patients, which is the main number the media here likes to report. Daily Deaths are no longer reported everyday, but one day this week did report 14, which is lower than the previous 25-35 daily.

Pops is going in the hospital for a procedure on Monday. No one else is allowed into the hospital unless tested first. Mamma won't do it, she trusts nothing, and will sit in the parking lot waiting the estimated 2-3 hours. I will join her in the parking lot because they are in their 80's and should get some support. The rest of the family is busy heading to New York for a funeral. This might be interesting, with some family members coming in from Cali and Flo. The unexpected passing of our beloved cousin from an Aortic Anuerism has greatly upset most of the family to the point of losing their wits, I think.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 4:09:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.


I hope that it has been reported to the authorities, including the staff at the senior home. They may not catch them but if those certificates have not been used then they might be able to be canceled. If they have been used, then the purchaser or where the product being shipped can be tracked.

Then

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 5:16:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.


I hope that it has been reported to the authorities, including the staff at the senior home. Thye may not catch them but if those certificates have not been used then they might be able to be canceled. If they have been used, then the purchaser or where the product being shipped can be tracked.

Then

The gift certificates are almost surely fake.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 5:32:44 AM   
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Sad story.

My parents senior home is still off limits to visitors...and scammers got to my Father and somehow convinced him to buy five grand of gift certificates to the scammers, install malicious software on his computer, and put at risk all of his online accounts.

Normally, I visit every other day and would have nipped this in the bud. Now I had to have him ship me the computer, and he had to change all his accounts.

Not a fun experience for all involved.


I hope that it has been reported to the authorities, including the staff at the senior home. They may not catch them but if those certificates have not been used then they might be able to be canceled. If they have been used, then the purchaser or where the product being shipped can be tracked.

Then

The gift certificates are almost surely fake.


From the way that I read it, he bought the gift certificates for the spammers.

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. . . gift certificates to the scammers . . .


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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 11:52:03 AM   
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I agree with RJ. The gift certificates are likely very real, and if tracked down could be cancelled or suspended. If they happened to be funded with a credit card then a call to the credit card company will very likely result in a refund.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/4/2020 8:05:46 PM   
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Groom Dies and Nearly 100 People Test Positive for COVID-19 After Wedding in Bihar
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The groom has died and nearly 100 people have been diagnosed with COVID-19 following a wedding in Bihar.

The 30-year-old groom, described in a CBS News report as a software engineer who worked in a Delhi suburb, is said to have traveled to his hometown of Paliganj in Bihar in mid-May. Soon after his arrival, he started showing coronavirus symptoms ahead of a June 15 wedding date.

Regional reports claim that the groom had expressed a desire to push back the wedding due to experiencing virus symptoms, though he was convinced to move ahead to prevent taking a financial loss. He was never tested for the virus.

Ultimately, more than 350 guests attended the wedding, followed two days later by the groom's death while being transported to the hospital. According to reports, his body was cremated "without informing authorities."


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/groom-dies-nearly-100-people-155355892.html

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 12:32:03 AM   
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Century-old lung sample helps pinpoint origin of measles, offers lessons for SARS-CoV-2 research

https://www.studyfinds.org/century-old-lung-sample-helps-pinpoint-origin-of-measles-offers-lessons-for-sars-cov-2-research/

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 3:53:46 AM   
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The Us reported 254 Covid mortalities today, the lowest number since March 23. This is a Saturday and a holiday, which contributes to the low number. Nevertheless this is well under 50% on Memorial Day and 50% of last Saturday's report. The downward trend is continuing even as positive test results/new cases rise.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 6:14:35 AM   
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The Us reported 254 Covid mortalities today, the lowest number since March 23. This is a Saturday and a holiday, which contributes to the low number. Nevertheless this is well under 50% on Memorial Day and 50% of last Saturday's report. The downward trend is continuing even as positive test results/new cases rise.

Declining mortality is good news, but the prevalence of cases is going to mess with the economy until it is reduced to a level that people feel they can live with. That is Job #1.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 8:02:42 AM   
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It'll be a tense two weeks here in the UK. July 4 marked the reopening of many businesses with potential to bring people into much closer proximity, some indoors. Pubs were rammed in many areas with reports of raucous drunken behaviour and little distancing, as might be expected. Hairdressers on my high street were busy, many with balloons outside and costumed workers. Everyone was wearing masks, which is positive.

The High street was noticeably busier, the roads packed with slow moving traffic, and parks active with children back on the swings, slides and other play equipment. It was strange experiencing some distress at being in more crowded conditions, which were only approaching (but not quite reaching) pre-lockdown levels. More people were sporting masks on the streets though. I bring one everywhere, but only use it in shops, in stores and on transport.

These two weeks will show if the re-opening leads to a rise in Rt and daily case numbers, or if the current low number of cases have been reduced enough to deal with the inevitable lessening of distancing and careful social behaviour.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/05/crystal-clear-drunk-people-cant-socially-distance-say-police-in-england

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 8:09:10 AM   
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I had my first haircut for four months yesterday - oh that feels good!!! It's a small barber shop with four chairs. Each had a divider between them and the staff wore face shields and used disposable coverings. Haircuts were by appointment (with a walk in available. No one was allowed in the shop unless being served and so the queue was outside.

All really responsibly done. This is a small business that has had no income since March but still doing the right thing.

Then you see pictures from last night. FFS what is wrong with some people?

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 8:12:19 AM   
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The Us reported 254 Covid mortalities today, the lowest number since March 23. This is a Saturday and a holiday, which contributes to the low number. Nevertheless this is well under 50% on Memorial Day and 50% of last Saturday's report. The downward trend is continuing even as positive test results/new cases rise.

Declining mortality is good news, but the prevalence of cases is going to mess with the economy until it is reduced to a level that people feel they can live with. That is Job #1.


If the majority of new cases are under 40, it's inevitable mortality rates will be lower, but cases are still going up sharply. This disease has a lot of complications that may have long term consequences, and while hopefully improved treatment and understanding of the illness will keep mortality lower, it may still seem more tragic to those affected as younger people are severely affected.

It's one thing to lose ones elderly parents before their time, and it's another to lose parents of young children, ones children themselves. Our friends here have just had to go into hospital with what might be the Multi-system inflamatory condition related to Covid (like Kawasaki disease). Doctors are still unsure if it is this, but she's having treatment for it regardless. This condition can have very long lasting affects on the heart, which is very scary for parents of a three year old.

I'm not sure what the solution is in the states but it's been interesting to see the reversals of policy in many places as cases rise quickly. Hopefully full lockdowns can be avoided, but with the current levels of increase this seems unlikely.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 1:32:41 PM   
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Mortality is the key number, especially now. It's telling us that something is going on - that despite the rising number of cases, something basic has changed in how the virus is operating in the US (and some other places). It's showing us that, if necessary, we can handle the current situation better than what we dealt with in the past. IF an increasing number of people are asymptomatic or have mild cases, we can live with that if we have to until we get a handle on that too. If mortality rates were at the same levels as in March and April, the situation would be much different, much more dire, and we'd react accordingly. Yes, we'd rather case numbers go down, but mortality is the bottom line.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 5:21:05 PM   
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Mortality is the key number, especially now. It's telling us that something is going on - that despite the rising number of cases, something basic has changed in how the virus is operating in the US (and some other places). It's showing us that, if necessary, we can handle the current situation better than what we dealt with in the past. IF an increasing number of people are asymptomatic or have mild cases, we can live with that if we have to until we get a handle on that too. If mortality rates were at the same levels as in March and April, the situation would be much different, much more dire, and we'd react accordingly. Yes, we'd rather case numbers go down, but mortality is the bottom line.


Absolutely not.

When you've got stuff like "happy hypoxia" coming off the back of Covid (not to mention the blood clots and other nasty side effects mentioned elsewhere), you're absolutely wanting to drive down case numbers.


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I had my first haircut for four months yesterday - oh that feels good!!! It's a small barber shop with four chairs. Each had a divider between them and the staff wore face shields and used disposable coverings. Haircuts were by appointment (with a walk in available. No one was allowed in the shop unless being served and so the queue was outside.

All really responsibly done. This is a small business that has had no income since March but still doing the right thing.

Then you see pictures from last night. FFS what is wrong with some people?



It was inevitable once the Government messaging changed from "Stay at Home" to "Stay Alert". Using common sense as a public health measure was never going to work out.

What I find an unacceptable omission was leaving opening hours untouched. All this could have easily been avoided if pubs were required to stop serving booze in the early evening for the first few weeks of re-opening. This would have easily reinforced the "not business as usual" aspect of dealing with Covid than the party atmosphere seen elsewhere.


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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 5:25:54 PM   
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Five carriers sunk in battle is one thing, five damaged is another. We want to reach the point where our carriers don't even take damage, but until then, damage is better than sunk.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 5:30:59 PM   
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Five carriers sunk in battle is one thing, five damaged is another. We want to reach the point where our carriers don't even take damage, but until then, damage is better than sunk.


Very easy to say when it's not you, your parents, or your children.

This is not war. The wounded and killed in this battle might have a better chance to be unaffected if society and governments can come together to adhere to best scientific practice in order to limit cases.

This doesn't mean locking down, but getting Rt and case numbers low in order to be able to track, trace and isolate until a vaccine is available.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 5:54:14 PM   
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It is me and my parents and my children, just like you and yours and just like everyone else.

This is a weird environment. Making the obvious point that mortality is more severe than sickness triggers quibbling.

Most people who come down with this recover; many are asymptomatic or have mild cases; and a considerably smaller percentage will suffer long-term consequences or die. Since its better to not die than to die, it's better that mortality is low rather than high. Ergo, mortality is the bottom line and the key indicator. As noted above, and as everybody here acknowledges, vanquishing the virus is the ultimate goal. Until that's accomplished, it's better to be sick than dead, and to be mildly sick than seriously. So while increasing case rates are important, they aren't as important as mortality if the two continue (as they have for months) at diverging rates.










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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 7:22:48 PM   
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Until you have enough people infected then recovered, you will not reach heard immunity.

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RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version - 7/5/2020 7:24:37 PM   
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Coronavirus: Mexico's death toll passes 30,000
5 July 2020

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Mexico has recorded more than 30,000 deaths from its coronavirus outbreak, as the disease continues to ravage one of Latin America's worst-hit countries.

The health ministry said deaths rose by 523 on Saturday, pushing the total to 30,366.

The country now has the world's fifth-highest Covid-19 toll, passing France, where more than 29,000 have died.

A daily record of 6,914 new infections was recorded in Mexico, bringing the total to 252,165, officials said.

However, the true number of fatalities and infections is thought to be much higher because of insufficient testing.

Mexico has Latin America's second-highest death toll after Brazil, which has recorded 64,000 fatalities and more than 1.5 million infections to date, according to Johns Hopkins University, which is tracking the disease globally.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53296003

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Police Association calls for plans for Melbourne public housing lockdown
Victoria’s Police Association says no planning has been done for how officers will guard nine inner Melbourne public housing buildings.

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Victoria’s Police Association secretary Wayne Gatt says no planning has been done for how officers will guard nine inner Melbourne public housing buildings currently under hard lockdown due to a coronavirus outbreak.
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He said it was up to the State Government to determine what other agencies were also tasked to support the public housing lockdown, but said police were willing to work with everyone, including the Australian Defence Force, which was “relevant consideration” to help get the job done.
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State Opposition Leader Michael O’Brien called for the ADF to be brought in to assist police monitoring the public housing estates.


https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/police-association-calls-for-plans-for-melbourne-public-housing-lockdown/news-story/a12694f694817ed217e0a4a9600912f6

Apparently, they are being provided free rent, food, and boxes of items full of things for them to work on . . .

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