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A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/6/2020 8:11:50 PM

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I�ve just started playing, and I am well into my first real game. Lot�s to learn! I have conquered or made peace with all the minor powers near my starting city, and I am now at war with a major power that is separated from my empire by a large band of non-affiliated land. I have successfully pushed dirt roads across this stretch of wilderness. I would now like to push a railroad across this same wilderness. I was able to build approximately 10 hexes of railroad out into the wilderness, but can�t go any further and can�t figure out why or what to do next. The problem is that the cost per hex of new rail suddenly jumps astronomically. A rail line that was costing 80 industry and 80 metal per hex suddenly costs 4680 metal and industry per hex!!!

I�ve tried building a level two rail station in my home city (where my SHQ is located). I�ve tried building a level two rail station in my city that is closest to my attempt at a rail line across the wilderness. I built a rail station in the hex that has the last line of rail I was able to build in the wilderness. I have built supply depots further out in the wilderness. Nothing has allowed me to extend my rail line at a non-insane price. What am I missing here? Any advice would be welcome.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/6/2020 8:33:32 PM

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It must be a mountain hex of some sort, the cost of infrastructure goes up significantly the more difficult the terrain.

Which game version are you playing on? I'm not 100 % certain, but I believe that cost might have been nerfed at some point.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/6/2020 8:34:05 PM

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If it's a mountain hex, sounds about right. The game assumes a lot of expensive tunneling and trellising is involved, I guess.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/6/2020 9:09:26 PM

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In a 1.04beta3 savegame, it costs >1300 Metal and IP for a low mountain Hex.
High Mountains are impassable by rail (but that might be lifted if there already is a road going through the hex, I have no way to try).

The ability of trains to deal with even small inclines or declines is basically non-existant. It is a thing we had to sacrifice for the fuel efficiency.
So you have to go the hard way - involving bridges or even tunnels - to get through even low mountains.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/7/2020 1:32:23 PM

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Thanks for the fast replies! You were correct, I was not paying attention to the underlying terrain. It turns out I was trying to build my rail line right down the length of a mountain range. You can push a dirt road through mountains okay, but the cost for sealed roads or rails is huge. I will plan my roads with this in mind going forward.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/17/2020 9:50:41 AM

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You should get the benefits of a viewpoint if you have rail that covers 5 continuous mountain hexes for having a scenic route.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/17/2020 9:43:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mek42

You should get the benefits of a viewpoint if you have rail that covers 5 continuous mountain hexes for having a scenic route.

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/20/2020 12:10:35 PM

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FYI, the underlying problem for this post has been fixed in a Beta:
"-Sealed Road construction over existing Dirt Road now only 60% of the cost.
-Rail next to existing Road or Road next to existing Rail only 50% of the cost."
- v1.04-beta6

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RE: A single hex of rail costing 4680 metal??? - 7/20/2020 2:07:41 PM

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Let's not forget each hex is 200km distant from end to end, and 26,000 km2 in a perfectly flat surface area. High mountains adds to that scale.

It should probably cost more steel.

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