Slitherine

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The plot follows a US Navy Commander on his first war-time assignment in command of a multi-national escort group defending a merchant ship convoy under attack by submarines in early-1942 during the Battle of the Atlantic, only months after the U.S. officially entered World War II.

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

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The plot follows a US Navy Commander on his first war-time assignment in command of a multi-national escort group defending a merchant ship convoy under attack by submarines in early-1942 during the Battle of the Atlantic, only months after the U.S. officially entered World War II.

So it's fiction then.

Prior Preparation & Planning Prevents Pathetically Poor Performance!

A & B: WitW, WitE, WbtS, GGWaW, GGWaW2-AWD, HttR, CotA, BftB, CF
P: UV, WitP, WitP-AE

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

If you have opportunity watch the new Tom Hanks movie Greyhound (2020)!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6048922

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_(film)


Leo "Apollo11"

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

If you have opportunity watch the new Tom Hanks movie Greyhound (2020)!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6048922

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_(film)


Leo "Apollo11"

This feels like the movie that shall not be named to me. Tom Hanks sinking the whole Kriegsmarine on his own in a knife fight.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

If you have opportunity watch the new Tom Hanks movie Greyhound (2020)!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6048922

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_(film)


Leo "Apollo11"

This feels like the movie that shall not be named to me. Tom Hanks sinking the whole Kriegsmarine on his own in a knife fight.

warspite1

I guess you haven't seen the film then?

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

If you have opportunity watch the new Tom Hanks movie Greyhound (2020)!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6048922

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_(film)


Leo "Apollo11"

This feels like the movie that shall not be named to me. Tom Hanks sinking the whole Kriegsmarine on his own in a knife fight.

warspite1

I guess you haven't seen the film then?

Lol, no? I have seen the trailer and those 2 min show the sinking of at least 2 (or 3?) Uboats AND both one Uboat and a destroyer firing at each other like 18th century lineships. If that does seam reasonable well for you.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

SPOILER ALERT FOR GREYHOUND

I watched Greyhound.

I was expecting a lot from it – being a fan of Tom Hanks since Volunteers and Splash! – and really enjoying Band of Brothers.

It didn’t quite live up to expectations, but I would say I enjoyed it and was glad I saw it. The positives outweighed the negatives definitely.

Positives
- The greyness of the Atlantic was well borne out
- The action scenes were generally good (although they overplayed the close encounters on the surface which did happen but were hardly standard German tactics)
- The death of Cleveland was a shocker – a very likeable character
- Stephen Graham appears to be an honorary American now
- CGI was pretty good (unlike so many aircraft portrayals) – the Fletcher-class and the Flower-class corvette, looked to be sufficiently accurate
- Good to see the RN and the RCN were included as well as reference to merchant sailors from other allied nations (through the Greek merchant)

Negatives
- Of all the names they could have used (Harry was pretty cool) why did they call a British destroyer Eagle?? No!!!!!!
- The movement inside the ship didn’t seem to match what the destroyer was doing, battling against the waves, and the sailors should have been battling the elements more – cold, wet and being thrown about
- Elisabeth Shue’s part really wasn’t worth turning up for. I mean give her a bit more to do or just decide to do away with her “character” altogether. A waste of 5 minutes or whatever she was on for.
- The taunting of the crew by the U-boat commanders….. mmm that was the only bit that really grated. Just no. As far as I know there was no incidence of this and it was all a bit hammy.

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

BTW "Eagle" is not a bad name for the Poles. Orel was one of their most famous "Free Polish" warships (a submarine) and The Eagle was their national bird (sort of).

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Eagle was the code name in the book that it's based on.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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both one Uboat and a destroyer firing at each other like 18th century lineships. If that does seam reasonable well for you.

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ORIGINAL: spence

The second instance of hand to hand combat between a USN destroyer and a Uboat involved the USS Buckley and the U-66. The official report of the action by the US ship's CO can be found at:http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-66A/U-66BuckleyReport.htm

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Medal of Honor action

Men sit on a tank which is holding position among a line of troops
An M26 Pershing tank supporting troops of the 9th Infantry along the banks of the Naktong River during the Second Battle of Naktong Bulge in September 1950.
Main article: Second Battle of Naktong Bulge

That evening, Kouma led the patrol of two M26 Pershing tanks and two M19 Gun Motor Carriages in Agok, along the Naktong River.[11] Kouma placed his patrol on the west side of Agok near the Kihang ferry. At 20:00, a heavy fog covered the river, and at 22:00 mortar shells began falling on the American-held side of the river.[12] By 22:15, this strike intensified and North Korean mortar preparation struck A Company's positions. American mortars and artillery began responding with counter-battery fire.[9] Some of A Company's men reported hearing noises on the opposite side of the river and splashes in the water.[10]

At 22:30, the fog lifted and Kouma saw that a North Korean pontoon bridge was being laid across the river directly in front of his position.[10] Kouma's four vehicles attacked this structure, with Kouma manning the M2 Browning .50-caliber machine gun atop the tank. As the gunner fired the tank's main cannon, Kouma sank many of the boats attempting to cross the river with his machine gun.[5] At 23:00, a small arms fight flared around the left side of A Company north of the tanks.[11] This gunfire had lasted only two or three minutes when the A Company roadblock squads near the tanks heard over the field telephone that the company was withdrawing and that they should do likewise.[10] Kouma instead opted to act as a rearguard to cover the infantry.[13] He was wounded shortly thereafter in the foot reloading the tank's ammunition. He quickly fought off another North Korean attack across the river with his machine gun.[5]

Kouma's force was then ambushed by a group of North Koreans dressed in US military uniforms.[14] Kouma was wounded a second time, in the shoulder, as he beat back repeated North Korean crossings with his machine gun. Several strong attacks came within meters of the tank, but Kouma was able to drive them back despite his wounds. Eventually, the other three vehicles withdrew or were neutralized, and Kouma held the Agok crossing site until 07:30 the next morning with just his tank.[11][14] At one point, the tank was surrounded and Kouma had to engage the North Koreans from outside the tank with machine gun fire at point blank range. After the tank gun's ammunition was expended, Kouma used his pistol and grenades to hold off the North Koreans. The tank then withdrew 8 miles (13 km) to the newly established American lines, destroying three North Korean machine gun positions along the way. During his action, Kouma had killed an estimated 250 North Korean troops.[13] His actions in this fight alone surpassed the highly decorated US Army soldier Audie Murphy, who was credited with 240 kills during World War II,[15] and who had been the second most decorated US soldier in the war.[16] His single-handed heroic battle may have served as a seed for the fictional W.W. II movie, Fury (2014 film).

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Lafayette Green Pool (July 23, 1919 – May 30, 1991) was an American tank-crew and tank-platoon commander in World War II and is widely recognized as the US tank ace of aces,[2][page needed] credited with 12 confirmed tank kills and 258 total armoured vehicle and self-propelled gun kills, over 1,000 German soldiers killed, and 250 more taken as prisoners of war[3] all of which took place in a combat career that covered only 81 days in action from 27 June to 15 September 1944 with three different Shermans.[4] He received many medals, including the Distinguished Service Cross, the Legion of Merit, the Silver Star, the Purple Heart, the Belgian Fourragère, and the French Légion d'honneur.[5]

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

Can Hanks fly a B-25?

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Ernest R. Kouma

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Medal of Honor action

Men sit on a tank which is holding position among a line of troops
An M26 Pershing tank supporting troops of the 9th Infantry along the banks of the Naktong River during the Second Battle of Naktong Bulge in September 1950.
Main article: Second Battle of Naktong Bulge

That evening, Kouma led the patrol of two M26 Pershing tanks and two M19 Gun Motor Carriages in Agok, along the Naktong River.[11] Kouma placed his patrol on the west side of Agok near the Kihang ferry. At 20:00, a heavy fog covered the river, and at 22:00 mortar shells began falling on the American-held side of the river.[12] By 22:15, this strike intensified and North Korean mortar preparation struck A Company's positions. American mortars and artillery began responding with counter-battery fire.[9] Some of A Company's men reported hearing noises on the opposite side of the river and splashes in the water.[10]

At 22:30, the fog lifted and Kouma saw that a North Korean pontoon bridge was being laid across the river directly in front of his position.[10] Kouma's four vehicles attacked this structure, with Kouma manning the M2 Browning .50-caliber machine gun atop the tank. As the gunner fired the tank's main cannon, Kouma sank many of the boats attempting to cross the river with his machine gun.[5] At 23:00, a small arms fight flared around the left side of A Company north of the tanks.[11] This gunfire had lasted only two or three minutes when the A Company roadblock squads near the tanks heard over the field telephone that the company was withdrawing and that they should do likewise.[10] Kouma instead opted to act as a rearguard to cover the infantry.[13] He was wounded shortly thereafter in the foot reloading the tank's ammunition. He quickly fought off another North Korean attack across the river with his machine gun.[5]

Kouma's force was then ambushed by a group of North Koreans dressed in US military uniforms.[14] Kouma was wounded a second time, in the shoulder, as he beat back repeated North Korean crossings with his machine gun. Several strong attacks came within meters of the tank, but Kouma was able to drive them back despite his wounds. Eventually, the other three vehicles withdrew or were neutralized, and Kouma held the Agok crossing site until 07:30 the next morning with just his tank.[11][14] At one point, the tank was surrounded and Kouma had to engage the North Koreans from outside the tank with machine gun fire at point blank range. After the tank gun's ammunition was expended, Kouma used his pistol and grenades to hold off the North Koreans. The tank then withdrew 8 miles (13 km) to the newly established American lines, destroying three North Korean machine gun positions along the way. During his action, Kouma had killed an estimated 250 North Korean troops.[13] His actions in this fight alone surpassed the highly decorated US Army soldier Audie Murphy, who was credited with 240 kills during World War II,[15] and who had been the second most decorated US soldier in the war.[16] His single-handed heroic battle may have served as a seed for the fictional W.W. II movie, Fury (2014 film).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_R._Kouma

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

Can Hanks fly a B-25?

No, but they can CGI Hanks into a B-25 cockpit, then they can CGI his face into the cockpit window of a full size CGI B-25, then that CGI B-25 onto the deck of a CGI Hornet. The best part will be when they CGI a orange/redish glow onto Hanks face as he looks out his CGI B-25 window from the firestorm started by the 4x500lb bombs he dropped on Tokyo.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Mark VII

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

Can Hanks fly a B-25?

No, but they can CGI Hanks into a B-25 cockpit, then they can CGI his face into the cockpit window of a full size CGI B-25, then that CGI B-25 onto the deck of a CGI Hornet. The best part will be when they CGI a orange/redish glow onto Hanks face as he looks out his CGI B-25 window from the firestorm started by the 4x500lb bombs he dropped on Tokyo.

which is pretty much what I would expect if Hanks commanded a carrier, not a destroyer.

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Ernest R. Kouma

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Medal of Honor action

Men sit on a tank which is holding position among a line of troops
An M26 Pershing tank supporting troops of the 9th Infantry along the banks of the Naktong River during the Second Battle of Naktong Bulge in September 1950.
Main article: Second Battle of Naktong Bulge

That evening, Kouma led the patrol of two M26 Pershing tanks and two M19 Gun Motor Carriages in Agok, along the Naktong River.[11] Kouma placed his patrol on the west side of Agok near the Kihang ferry. At 20:00, a heavy fog covered the river, and at 22:00 mortar shells began falling on the American-held side of the river.[12] By 22:15, this strike intensified and North Korean mortar preparation struck A Company's positions. American mortars and artillery began responding with counter-battery fire.[9] Some of A Company's men reported hearing noises on the opposite side of the river and splashes in the water.[10]

At 22:30, the fog lifted and Kouma saw that a North Korean pontoon bridge was being laid across the river directly in front of his position.[10] Kouma's four vehicles attacked this structure, with Kouma manning the M2 Browning .50-caliber machine gun atop the tank. As the gunner fired the tank's main cannon, Kouma sank many of the boats attempting to cross the river with his machine gun.[5] At 23:00, a small arms fight flared around the left side of A Company north of the tanks.[11] This gunfire had lasted only two or three minutes when the A Company roadblock squads near the tanks heard over the field telephone that the company was withdrawing and that they should do likewise.[10] Kouma instead opted to act as a rearguard to cover the infantry.[13] He was wounded shortly thereafter in the foot reloading the tank's ammunition. He quickly fought off another North Korean attack across the river with his machine gun.[5]

Kouma's force was then ambushed by a group of North Koreans dressed in US military uniforms.[14] Kouma was wounded a second time, in the shoulder, as he beat back repeated North Korean crossings with his machine gun. Several strong attacks came within meters of the tank, but Kouma was able to drive them back despite his wounds. Eventually, the other three vehicles withdrew or were neutralized, and Kouma held the Agok crossing site until 07:30 the next morning with just his tank.[11][14] At one point, the tank was surrounded and Kouma had to engage the North Koreans from outside the tank with machine gun fire at point blank range. After the tank gun's ammunition was expended, Kouma used his pistol and grenades to hold off the North Koreans. The tank then withdrew 8 miles (13 km) to the newly established American lines, destroying three North Korean machine gun positions along the way. During his action, Kouma had killed an estimated 250 North Korean troops.[13] His actions in this fight alone surpassed the highly decorated US Army soldier Audie Murphy, who was credited with 240 kills during World War II,[15] and who had been the second most decorated US soldier in the war.[16] His single-handed heroic battle may have served as a seed for the fictional W.W. II movie, Fury (2014 film).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_R._Kouma

what are you trying to tell me, considering you replied on my post?

I can also quote a wiki entry of Wittmann killing tanks in the dozens. You think that makes the tank encounter in War Fury of four Shermans vs the Tiger I any better? The Tiger rushing the Shermans and then going in circles? Serious?

Or the way the fight was done at that crossroad? Serious?

If you think that trailer is showing the reality of ASW combat in the Atlantic, or Pitt showing reality of tankwarfare in WWII, OMG.

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Is it on netflix or one of the other streaming services?

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ORIGINAL: spence

For those who think that tanks had much to do with the Western Allied victory in WW2 one fact perhaps will dispel that thought: During the Battle of the Atlantic more sailors were killed and more ships were sunk than in all the other naval battles in recorded history combined (Allied and German casualties).

The RMS Athenia was sunk by a Uboat on 3 September 1939 (the first day of the war for the UK) and the battle lasted until May 8th 1945 just hours before Germany surrendered to the Allies.

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Tanks had a hell of a lot to do with the Western (US, UK and France) victory.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805