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A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 7:53:01 PM

LowCommand

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Bywater was a famous journalist, and Brit spy. His book, �The Great Pacific War� was a real big deal when it came out. He pretty well wrote the script for WWII in the Pacific.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Great_Pacific_War/KOys6iShHT4C?hl
=en&gbpv=1&dq=war+in+the+pacific+bywater&printsec=frontcover

And, Sea-Power in the Pacific � a book he wrote that probably contains most of the info he used to write the book.

https://archive.org/details/cu31924023233822

It Was a Real Big Deal. Yamato is said to have pretty well taken it home and told everybody �This Is How We Will Win.� This is disputed a bit, but both were translated into Japanese and were part of their thinking on the subject. The big thing for everybody was the �invention,� pronouncement etc of Island Hopping. That is, the US fighting it�s way to back to the Philippines by jumping from one important island to the next. Several other people had thought this up too, but Bywater got it on the front page.

In this Bywater got lots right, the war really did start in 31, we just didn�t get involved for a while. He correctly predicts the Philippines landing force size, some of the invasion beaches, the length of our real defense of the islands, Kakamazies, and much, much more.

Unfortunately, it isn�t really a good read now, except to note what he correctly predicted and what his got wildly wrong. But it really did pretty much �write the script.�

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 9:06:43 PM

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Try and get your hands on
BYWATER
The man who invented the Pacific war
by William H Honan

The life of Hector Bywater, stranger than fiction.

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 9:48:35 PM

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Intriguing stuff.

Of course, with a last name of "By Water", how could you not be an almost Delphic prophet of amphibious island hopping warfare?

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 10:54:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LowCommand

It Was a Real Big Deal. Yamato is said to have pretty well taken it home and told everybody �This Is How We Will Win.� This is disputed a bit, but both were translated into Japanese and were part of their thinking on the subject. The big thing for everybody was the �invention,� pronouncement etc of Island Hopping. That is, the US fighting it�s way to back to the Philippines by jumping from one important island to the next. Several other people had thought this up too, but Bywater got it on the front page.

I presume you meant Yamamoto. The other is the BB. You know, I say tomato and you say ...

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 11:17:15 PM

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So Sorry about the miss spelling. I muck up. LOTS of spelling.

I also mucked up the title of both these posts. I should have done more, 'Screaming' look at this, it's Interesting.

I also suggest that any and everybody involved in this checkout the info I've dumped on this group.

There�s some history quite relevant to this game in both posts.

I'll probably get around to a redo and dump lots more info -

Like very, very few BBs were sunk by gunfire alone. For example Bismarck seems to have gone down due to being scuttled . There seem to have been only 4 penetrations to her citadel, never mind all the heavy hits she took.

Now Jap BBs that's a bit different.

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/17/2020 11:17:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: LowCommand

It Was a Real Big Deal. Yamato is said to have pretty well taken it home and told everybody �This Is How We Will Win.� This is disputed a bit, but both were translated into Japanese and were part of their thinking on the subject. The big thing for everybody was the �invention,� pronouncement etc of Island Hopping. That is, the US fighting it�s way to back to the Philippines by jumping from one important island to the next. Several other people had thought this up too, but Bywater got it on the front page.

I presume you meant Yamamoto. The other is the BB. You know, I say tomato and you say ...

Oh -Oh!!! I know the answer to that one - it's tomahto. I heard it in a song: Let's Call The Whole Thing Off

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/18/2020 2:09:41 AM

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As long as we're delving into predictive books from the past, a true must-read (even today) is "Riddle of the Sands":

�In the years leading up to the First World War, the book�s influence was far-reaching. It actually alerted British naval intelligence to its own shortcomings and to the reality of the German threat, and Winston Churchill later credited it as a major reason that the Admiralty decided to establish naval bases at Invergordon, Rosyth on the Firth of Forth and Scapa Flow in Orkney.�

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RE: A bit about Bywater who wrote 'The script' - 7/18/2020 9:10:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: LowCommand

It Was a Real Big Deal. Yamato is said to have pretty well taken it home and told everybody �This Is How We Will Win.� This is disputed a bit, but both were translated into Japanese and were part of their thinking on the subject. The big thing for everybody was the �invention,� pronouncement etc of Island Hopping. That is, the US fighting it�s way to back to the Philippines by jumping from one important island to the next. Several other people had thought this up too, but Bywater got it on the front page.

I presume you meant Yamamoto. The other is the BB. You know, I say tomato and you say ...

Oh -Oh!!! I know the answer to that one - it's tomahto. I heard it in a song: Let's Call The Whole Thing Off