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OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/21/2020 6:25:17 PM

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I find, all things regarding the US Navy interesting, and how they plan on keeping the edge on the rest of the world. but thisCFR would be astonishing, even for the US armed forces. I do not know of any reliable sources.
But I highly regard the knowledge of most people here, it far surpasses most.

Wondering if this is real? It would give an edge to the navy for the next 100 years i guess

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/21/2020 10:25:54 PM

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quote:

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I find, all things regarding the US Navy interesting, and how they plan on keeping the edge on the rest of the world. but thisCFR would be astonishing, even for the US armed forces. I do not know of any reliable sources.
But I highly regard the knowledge of most people here, it far surpasses most.

Wondering if this is real? It would give an edge to the navy for the next 100 years i guess

Aren't all current reactors based on fission? Fusion requires the introduction of Hydrogen which makes a much harder to control reaction. I would expect such a breakthrough to be headline news throughout the world because it would provide a way to get small power plants all over the place. If it is a secret, it should never have been featured in an article in a business magazine. IOW, I have my doubts.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/22/2020 8:49:42 AM

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If those could be built at reasonable cost (and were safe), I suspect GE or one of the big German or Japanese energy plant companies would be bringing them to market, covid notwithstanding.

Ergo, it isn't safe (yet) or is unable to be built at reasonable cost.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/22/2020 9:14:57 AM

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The fact of granting a patent proves only the uniqueness of the idea.

The patent claim review doesn't involve any feasibility and/or economical study of the invention.

Only 5% of granted patents are commercialized (and not all of them are successful at the end).

Therefore for now it is just an idea, waiting for implementation. There is quite a number of physicist who believe that the a stable nuclear fusion reaction in not possible in the nearest 150 years, and most likely the reaction can be implemented in space only.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/26/2020 7:50:02 PM

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To my knowledge, practically speaking all viable fusion reactors right now are endothermic - meaning they require more energy input than you are able to harvest from them. They do not meet the Lawson criterion (yet).

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 8/26/2020 8:26:01 PM

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To my knowledge, practically speaking all viable fusion reactors right now are endothermic - meaning they require more energy input than you are able to harvest from them. They do not meet the Lawson criterion (yet).

Except for the big ones in the sky, that is true.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 9/14/2020 6:28:53 AM

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Isnt't this CFR an iteration of ITER?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 9/14/2020 3:26:31 PM

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The Navy doesn't get patents for secrets, they'd rather keep them secret.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 9/14/2020 3:28:22 PM

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The fact of granting a patent proves only the uniqueness of the idea.

The patent claim review doesn't involve any feasibility and/or economical study of the invention.

Only 5% of granted patents are commercialized (and not all of them are successful at the end).

Therefore for now it is just an idea, waiting for implementation. There is quite a number of physicist who believe that the a stable nuclear fusion reaction in not possible in the nearest 150 years, and most likely the reaction can be implemented in space only.

So why didn't the "Space Force" get the patent instead of the Navy?

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 9/14/2020 11:43:08 PM

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quote:

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The fact of granting a patent proves only the uniqueness of the idea.

The patent claim review doesn't involve any feasibility and/or economical study of the invention.

Only 5% of granted patents are commercialized (and not all of them are successful at the end).

Therefore for now it is just an idea, waiting for implementation. There is quite a number of physicist who believe that the a stable nuclear fusion reaction in not possible in the nearest 150 years, and most likely the reaction can be implemented in space only.

So why didn't the "Space Force" get the patent instead of the Navy?

They were too spaced out to think about it. Maybe they are trying to implement that new fantastic nuclear weapon that was recently blabbed by someone in the administration.

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RE: OT: compact fusion reactor us navy patent - 9/15/2020 5:12:26 AM

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I know just the person to run it.