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Soviet Turn 23 - 9/4/2020 5:44:38 PM   
Grognard1812


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Status: offline 		Second turn of Snow - Snow is all Soviet weather zones.

Northwest of Voroshilovgrad a large pocket formed by the Panzers of Army Group South was opened with an attack on the 3rd Panzer division.




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Soviet Turn 23 - 9/4/2020 5:47:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of turn situation Northwest of Voroshilovgrad. Just one turn left of snow before blizzard starts.




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Soviet Turn 23 - 9/4/2020 5:51:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moving up the troops to get ready for blizzard in two turns West of Rostov. A very interesting blizzard defense for the Axis player - mostly Rumanian units in two defensive lines (shown by air recon).




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Soviet Turn 23 - 9/4/2020 5:53:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Army Group Center is at the gates of Moscow - but Moscow is safe in 1941 as there is only one turn of snow left.




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RE: Soviet Turn 23 - 9/4/2020 8:33:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for this easy to follow AAR.

I`ve been away from WITE long time, so it`s interesting to see versions of the Red Army`s 1941 strategy.

Yours seem to indicate that local counterattacks aren`t worth it ?

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RE: Soviet Turn 23 - 9/5/2020 12:08:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for following the AAR.

From reading other AARs I get the impression that if a Soviet player does too many counterattacks in the first 17 turns it sets up too many opportunities for the Axis player to create pockets. I feel the most important strategy for the Soviet player in the first 17 turns is to avoid pockets and try to save as many factories as possible by constantly retreating and digging in. The only time I usually counterattack is when trying to open pockets. My goal is to have a large enough army for a successful Soviet blizzard winter campaign - which means the Soviet army would need to be above 4 million on turn 17.

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Soviet Turn 24 - 9/5/2020 2:56:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		The weather this turn is snow in all the weather zones.

Northwest of Voroshilovgrad, the Panzers reform a large pocket with 24 Soviet divisions encircled. From bad to worse for the Red Army.




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Soviet Turn 24 - 9/5/2020 3:04:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was unable to open the pocket this turn. Situation at the end of turn Northwest of Voroshilovgrad. As next turn is the first turn of blizzard, hopefully the pocket can be broken next turn and the encircled Soviet units saved.

It is a snow turn, but I removed the weather effects pattern from the game map so that the units can be better seen.




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Soviet Turn 24 - 9/5/2020 3:06:42 PM   
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Soviet Turn 24 - 9/5/2020 3:10:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of turn, the Soviet Army just East of Stalino, getting everything ready for the start of the Soviet winter offensive which begins next turn with the first blizzard turn of the winter of 41-42.




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Soviet Turn 25 - 9/5/2020 3:22:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		First turn of blizzard, Army Group South successfully attacked and forced the surrender of 12 Soviet divisions in the pocket from last turn. Panzer divisions are always dangerous, even in blizzard turns.




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Soviet Turn 25 - 9/5/2020 3:24:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was able to open the pocket with a successful attack on a stack of 3 Panzer Divisions - the blizzard counter-offensive begins for the Soviet Army.




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Soviet Turn 25 - 9/5/2020 3:27:00 PM   
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Soviet Turn 25 - 9/5/2020 3:30:55 PM   
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Soviet Turn 25 - 9/5/2020 3:36:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		East of Stalino end of turn, attacking and setting up a bridgehead across the Mius River with a Cavalry Corps. During the first blizzard turn the Rumanian defensive line held.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 8:59:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Second turn of blizzard.

The German Army is in full retreat West of Voronezh.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:02:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		A pocket was reformed on 5 Soviet divisions Northwest of Voroshilvograd.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:04:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pocket was opened for 3 encircled Soviet divisions. End of turn situation.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:07:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		A successful attack by the Soviet Army to begin a breakout from the Crimea.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:10:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of turn situation West of Rostov - the first line of Rumanian defenses were broken this turn.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Axis loses were over 80,000 this turn.




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Soviet Turn 26 - 9/6/2020 9:13:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviet Army is over 5.3 million troops.




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RE: Soviet Turn 25 - 9/6/2020 10:03:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The surrender of your 12 units were done by my mountain troops... The panzers kept the pocket sealed but the heavy work was done by the mountain troops.

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RE: Soviet Turn 25 - 9/7/2020 1:33:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		From the Soviet player perspective, luckily for the Soviets there are only 6 German Mountain divisions in the game. You use them very effectively.

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RE: Soviet Turn 25 - 9/7/2020 1:34:28 AM   
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Soviet Turn 27 - 9/7/2020 1:36:29 AM   
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End of turn, north of Moscow the Soviet army was able to encircle 3 German Infantry Divisions.




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Soviet Turn 27 - 9/7/2020 1:39:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Red Army advances west without any German resistance in the Voronezh sector this turn.




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Soviet Turn 27 - 9/7/2020 1:41:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		End of turn, east of Rostov, the Soviet Army advances towards Stalino.




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Soviet Turn 27 - 9/7/2020 1:43:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		And finally, end of turn, the Soviet army breaks out of the Crimea.




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RE: Soviet Turn 25 - 9/7/2020 7:32:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown

Do the light divisions count as mountain divisions?



Yes the German light divisions are considered to be mountain divisions.

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