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General Questions - 9/18/2020 5:49:30 PM   
Zovs


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Status: offline 		So I am up to tutorial 16 and I am noticing something, most likely it may be related to my machine.

I can't use these two short cut keys:

{Ctrl + G} (this will launch and XBox screen or something weird, did not know I even had xbox installed on my Windows 10)

{Ctrl + LC} during the Land phase to select all units.

Here is a snippet from the tutorial:

Flyouts enable the selection of specific units to move as a group
Ctrl + LC selects ALL units in the hex for group movement
After the lowest range units exhaust their points, higher range units
can continue moving. This essentially "drops off" units from the
stack. Units can be dropped off in any hex along the path, while
others continue their movement.

When I try the Ctrl + LC I get a dialog box that pops up.

Now this could just be my system (I am running an iMac with 40 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD and I am running VmWare Pro and I have created a Windows 10 VM, I can and do run all my games from this VM, I gave it 16 GB of RAM and 500 GB of HDD). So I don't know but if anyone has any ideas that would be great, otherwise I will continue to use the Flyout with a LC on each unit I want to move as a stack.

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 5:52:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, I can't seem to do this:

Position Units to attack Warsaw (Page 7 of 14)
• MM Hex 48,45; LC ARM 8-6 (Flyout)
• HOLD {Ctrl}, MM Hex 49,44; LC; MM Hex 50,44; LC
• MM Hex 51,44; LC; RELEASE {Ctrl}

When I try that I get a different dialog pop open. So it seems I can't move units that way either...

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 6:01:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

So I am up to tutorial 16 and I am noticing something, most likely it may be related to my machine.

I can't use these two short cut keys:

{Ctrl + G} (this will launch and XBox screen or something weird, did not know I even had xbox installed on my Windows 10)

{Ctrl + LC} during the Land phase to select all units.

Here is a snippet from the tutorial:

Flyouts enable the selection of specific units to move as a group
Ctrl + LC selects ALL units in the hex for group movement
After the lowest range units exhaust their points, higher range units
can continue moving. This essentially "drops off" units from the
stack. Units can be dropped off in any hex along the path, while
others continue their movement.

When I try the Ctrl + LC I get a dialog box that pops up.

Now this could just be my system (I am running an iMac with 40 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD and I am running VmWare Pro and I have created a Windows 10 VM, I can and do run all my games from this VM, I gave it 16 GB of RAM and 500 GB of HDD). So I don't know but if anyone has any ideas that would be great, otherwise I will continue to use the Flyout with a LC on each unit I want to move as a stack.

Ctrl-G opens the global map. Depending on the size of your screen (or screens) and your screen layout, it may be there but underneath something else. There is a setting under Interface where you can set the Global map to always be on top, but if you have the screen real estate you are better to define a screen layout where you can see all the commonly used stuff. Two screens is best for that.

Ctrl-LC means hold down the Control key and left click - a very useful command.

Looks like you pressed Ctrl and 'L' and then the 'C' gets ignored.

< Message edited by paulderynck -- 9/18/2020 6:07:54 PM >

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 6:04:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

Also, I can't seem to do this:

Position Units to attack Warsaw (Page 7 of 14)
• MM Hex 48,45; LC ARM 8-6 (Flyout)
• HOLD {Ctrl}, MM Hex 49,44; LC; MM Hex 50,44; LC
• MM Hex 51,44; LC; RELEASE {Ctrl}

When I try that I get a different dialog pop open. So it seems I can't move units that way either...

Did you interpret MM to be move mouse and LC to be left click?

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 6:16:41 PM   
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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 6:17:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem I am having is when I hold down the Ctrl key and LC on a stack a pop up form shows.

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 7:07:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just to clarify:


Land Unit Movement (Page 2 of 14)

When I do:
• LC ART 50mm
• HOLD {Ctrl}; MM Hex 48,38; LC;

I get a pop up form showing:

Supply Sources and Paths
Sort by

Land Unit Movement: Group Moves (Page 6 of 14)
When I do:
• MM Hex 49,37; {Ctrl + LC} Hex 49,37; MM Hex 49,40; LC
I get a pop up form showing:

Next Unit
Sentry
Stack Sentry
Supply Sources and Paths
Rename
Note
Historical Description
Sort By
Sort All By

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 9:51:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		That sounds like the Unit Menu which is accessed by right clicking a unit. Maybe your keyboard mapping is not what is expected.

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RE: General Questions - 9/18/2020 10:09:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		It may not be, but I can get around it. I just either do a flyover menu to select the units I want or I move each hex individually. Not sure how overruns will work, I thought I hear in one of the video tuts that you have to use the Ctrl key or something.

Have 17 of the tuts done and working on playing out/with Barb...great fun, and love the game ...

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RE: General Questions - 9/20/2020 5:01:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, if you can't Ctrl-left-click a stack, then you'll never be able to do an overrun, except with one unit. Overruns are fairly rare, doing them with a single unit is even rarer.

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RE: General Questions - 9/20/2020 12:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could I not just use a fly out and click all the units I want and then overrun?

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RE: General Questions - 9/20/2020 1:43:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes cntl-left-click is necessary.

If you want to overrun a stack that is not adjacent to the moving stack, you have to do the movement in two stages. First, move adjacent to the unit, and second, do the overrun. If you want to keep moving after the overrun, that is a third stage. To do a move in multiple stages requires cntl-LC. So being able to do a cntl-LC is important.

The reason you have to do an overrun in two stages is that MWiF has to check supply immediately before the overrun is conducted.

There are other times you need to use cntl-Left-click.

If you want it to move a unit through particular hexes to change hex control, and MWiF doesn't use the path you want, you can use cntl-LC to force the moving unit to move through specific hexes.

If you want to move a naval unit through a sea area with enemy units in it, you must use cntl-LC. The enemy will get a chance to intercept. If that fails or you fight through, to continue moving, you have to have used cntl-left click to move into the sea area with enemy units in it.. This can be particularly important if you have an aborting naval unit after a naval combat that has to get past enemy units to return to port.

So try and figure out to do a cntl-left click. A place to test this is the quick start Barbarossa scenario. There is a pair of Russian units on the border in clear terrain that the Germans can put out of supply. Ground strike those units to disorganize them. (Either manually set the die rolls or keep reloading saves until both are disorganized.) Then see if you can overrun them. You have to use cntl-LC to move an armored stack adjacent to them, and then overrun them.

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RE: General Questions - 9/20/2020 8:53:50 PM   
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Thanks for all the tips, I’ll try to suss out my ctlr LC issues.


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RE: General Questions - 9/21/2020 10:34:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

Courtenay

Thanks for all the tips, I’ll try to suss out my ctlr LC issues.


The Player Interface form (a drop down menu item from the Main form) let's you switch the meaning of
Ctrl-Left-Click and Left-Click.

Check if you have the check-box selected.

Very few players use that option, but the original programmer coded it back in the 1990's.

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RE: General Questions - 9/22/2020 12:59:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Could it have to do with Windows environment settings being non-English?

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RE: General Questions - 9/22/2020 1:42:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		No on the Windows environment being non-English, since I am well American, unless the UK has a different key setup thingy.

Checking on the interface meaning for LC I see that it is not checked. Does it need to be checked in order to work?

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RE: General Questions - 9/22/2020 7:04:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, it is not checked on mine and LC and CTRL-LC work as described in the manuals. Could it be the set-up of your mouse?

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RE: General Questions - 9/22/2020 8:31:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's something to do with my mouse and the short-cut keys. But not sure what exactly yet. Remember that I am running an iMac and then running VmWare Pro and in that VmWare running a Windows 10 virtual machine. So something is off with that short cut key.

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RE: General Questions - 9/23/2020 2:59:06 AM   
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RE: General Questions - 9/23/2020 1:44:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zovs

It's something to do with my mouse and the short-cut keys. But not sure what exactly yet. Remember that I am running an iMac and then running VmWare Pro and in that VmWare running a Windows 10 virtual machine. So something is off with that short cut key.


you had general questions, but you had no questions about generals

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RE: General Questions - 9/23/2020 8:27:50 PM   
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RE: General Questions - 9/25/2020 3:31:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Remember that I am running an iMac and then running VmWare Pro and in that VmWare running a Windows 10 virtual machine"

That explains a lot. You have no right click. Usually on a Mac, Command key + LC (or should I say just 'C') equals a right click, hence the similarity to bringing up the Unit menu. Have you tried Shift-Command-C ?



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RE: General Questions - 9/26/2020 1:39:18 PM   
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RE: General Questions - 12/11/2020 10:14:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, since this is a General Questions, and pendant of completing a review of the video tutorials that I already don't remember from years ago...

Can you access to a netplay game to see your weak points and plan the next session even though you cannot obviously change anything or this is not implemented?



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RE: General Questions - 12/11/2020 1:03:11 PM   
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Ok, since this is a General Questions, and pendant of completing a review of the video tutorials that I already don't remember from years ago...

Can you access to a netplay game to see your weak points and plan the next session even though you cannot obviously change anything or this is not implemented?




Yes. You can load the game, using the option "review game".

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RE: General Questions - 12/11/2020 2:40:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Peter. Really nice.

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RE: General Questions - 1/20/2021 9:50:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Couple of questions:

1 When you close by mistake one important screen like the Production Planning, is there a way to call this form again or you need to reload. It's not the same as a detailed map or a world map, I just havent guessed how to get them back.

2 How can I make the game save my preferences everytime I load the game because of an issue (for example to have the control flags in the maps) or everytime I use a form (like Naval Review form opens with subs and enemy units as well)?.
I have seen the Screen Layouts, I understand that they have been created just for size and location of the forms, not the contents or display of them.

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RE: General Questions - 1/20/2021 11:51:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		You must save the screen layouts for every country (each "player" has there own). If you want the same layout for every major country, then you will need to save it for every major power. I find this works for most of the screens. There are a few screens that will not load on start up (e.g. units in hex panel), but will if you manually retrieve the screen layouts.

Note, saved screen layouts do save the control and weather information preferences (at least in my experience).

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RE: General Questions - 1/21/2021 3:33:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		CTRL-P will open the production planning form.

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RE: General Questions - 1/21/2021 7:17:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I will keep on trying with screen layouts and thanks for the tip on Prod Planning.

Edit: It's not that I say that screen layout edition doesnt work properly but I went through the manual and however didnt understand it very well. I will give it a try.

thanks both

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