Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: stockwellpete


Yes, I am. It doesn't have to be introduced into the main game, or even be developed as a mod. It can just be used as "house rules" if 2 players want to introduce a bit of extra variety to their game together. Having no entrenchment for the first 5 or 6 turns might create new positions and possibilities in some games that can enhance the replayability of the game. Maybe the Germans can get closer to Paris or the Russians can drive the Austro-Hungarians right out of Galicia in 1914?

While there obviously is movement in the early turns of the game, there is often premature entrenchment too e.g. between Verdun and Switzerland by both French and German forces.

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ORIGINAL: stockwellpete

While there obviously is movement in the early turns of the game, there is often premature entrenchment too e.g. between Verdun and Switzerland by both French and German forces.

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ORIGINAL: Patrat

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ORIGINAL: stockwellpete

While there obviously is movement in the early turns of the game, there is often premature entrenchment too e.g. between Verdun and Switzerland by both French and German forces.

I would like to mention that in real life the war of movement stopped between Verdun and the Swiss border long before it stopped in the north.

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ORIGINAL: stockwellpete

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ORIGINAL: Patrat

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ORIGINAL: stockwellpete

While there obviously is movement in the early turns of the game, there is often premature entrenchment too e.g. between Verdun and Switzerland by both French and German forces.

I would like to mention that in real life the war of movement stopped between Verdun and the Swiss border long before it stopped in the north.

Yes, but there was a war of movement there too for most of August until the French withdrew from Mulhouse on 26/8. They did not dig trenches there in the first week of August.

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ORIGINAL: Patrat

While it's TRUE that they didn't entrench in the beginning of August. That was only because the French 1st army commander was overruled by Joffe.

"On 8 August, Bonneau cautiously continued the advance and occupied Mulhouse, shortly after the German 58th Infantry Brigade retreated.[13] The First Army commander, General Auguste Dubail, preferred to dig in and wait for mobilisation to finish but Joffre ordered the advance to continue."



[13] Herwig, H. (2009). The Marne, 1914: The Opening of World War I and the Battle that Changed the World. New York: Random House. ISBN 978-1-4000-6671-1.

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ORIGINAL: Patrat

I wasn't debating your game idea. I posted the above to point out that not entrenching, was purely a command decision and not something that went against doctrine.

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ORIGINAL: Patrat
Btw Dubail was the army commander, just like in the game.

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ORIGINAL: Bavre

In MP that would basically equal Russian suicide vs a Russia first and French suicide vs Schlieffen. It is VERY difficult to stop a determined onslaught by an experienced CP player as it is, trust me! In my last Entente game I was barely able to hold Paris vs the initial push.

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ORIGINAL: mdsmall

However, when all the majors have four chits invested in Trench Warfare tech, they start to reach Trench Warfare tech levels 3 and 4 by mid to late 1915. It might be interesting to experiment with a house rule limiting the number of chits players can invest in Trench warfare tech to 3 or even 2, to see how that affects the tempo of the game.