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Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/21/2021 10:46:48 PM

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Naval support in base increases supply unload with TFs.

But I think it does not do that with fuel? That is my feeling because often fuel unload is very slow compared to supply.

Alfred needed.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/21/2021 10:56:31 PM

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No need for Alfred, just look in the manual:

Section 6.3.3.2.5
�� Naval Support. Naval Support may increase troop and cargo load
rates only. Naval Support increases the rate at which a given
ship can be loaded but cannot improve the total cargo handling
limitations of the port. Naval Support adds 10 points to the Troop
and Cargo load ability, for each Naval Support squad present.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/21/2021 11:06:50 PM

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Yeah, this has been asked in the past, pretty sure the answer is "no help at all".

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 12:06:01 AM

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Thanks all.

Glad it was clarified, should have RTFM myself.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 12:07:12 AM

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Yeah, this has been asked in the past, pretty sure the answer is "no help at all".

Correct - oil and fuel are pumped - how are stevedores going to help with that?

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 12:10:56 AM

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Yeah, this has been asked in the past, pretty sure the answer is "no help at all".

Correct - oil and fuel are pumped - how are stevedores going to help with that?

Carrying the fuel drums?

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 12:15:32 AM

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Yeah, this has been asked in the past, pretty sure the answer is "no help at all".

Correct - oil and fuel are pumped - how are stevedores going to help with that?

Carrying the fuel drums?

Fuel in drums is supply. That's why fuel in cargo space only uses 50% - the other 50% is the drums and the spaces between them.
I am not positive, but NS squads might help with fuel oil (for ships) in drums because they are carried in cargo space. In any event, NS squads do handle the avgas and other POL that are presumably in drums or other containers.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 12:19:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Yeah, this has been asked in the past, pretty sure the answer is "no help at all".

Correct - oil and fuel are pumped - how are stevedores going to help with that?

Carrying the fuel drums?

Fuel in drums is supply. That's why fuel in cargo space only uses 50% - the other 50% is the drums and the spaces between them.
I am not positive, but NS squads might help with fuel oil (for ships) in drums because they are carried in cargo space. In any event, NS squads do handle the avgas and other POL that are presumably in drums or other containers.

They only help the supply which would be the POL for the ground and air units, not for the ships.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 2:40:15 AM

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There is an exception.

See manual s.6.3.3.2.5, p126.

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�� Refineries and oil production facilities at a port increase the load
rate and daily maximum limits for fuel and oil respectively. Increase
is equal to one half of daily production in rate, full daily production
in limit. If both refineries and oil production are present, the amount
of oil used by the refinery is deducted from the increases.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 3:00:53 AM

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There is an exception.

See manual s.6.3.3.2.5, p126.

quote:

�� Refineries and oil production facilities at a port increase the load
rate and daily maximum limits for fuel and oil respectively. Increase
is equal to one half of daily production in rate, full daily production
in limit. If both refineries and oil production are present, the amount
of oil used by the refinery is deducted from the increases.

That does not include Naval Support, which was the initial question. So there is no exception to Naval Support helping to transfer fuel.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 3:07:03 AM

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Pick, pick, pick.

All I was trying to show is that there's a way to load fuel quicker.

Whatever.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 7:07:28 AM

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Pick, pick, pick.

All I was trying to show is that there's a way to load fuel quicker.

Whatever.

The part you quoted has to do with fuel production. What method of loading quicker were you suggesting? Just trying to clear up my confusion.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 9:20:06 AM

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Pick, pick, pick.

All I was trying to show is that there's a way to load fuel quicker.

Whatever.

The part you quoted has to do with fuel production. What method of loading quicker were you suggesting? Just trying to clear up my confusion.

No, it�s an increase on fuel/oil loading rates.

Say you have 300 oil and 300 refinery at the same base, and you load tankers. As all the oil produced by the OC is used by the OR, the OC will provide no increase in loading rates, but the OR produces 2700 fuel daily, so loading rate of fuel will increase by 1350, up to a limit of 2700.

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RE: Naval support effect on fuel unloading - 1/22/2021 2:35:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ambassador

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

Pick, pick, pick.

All I was trying to show is that there's a way to load fuel quicker.

Whatever.

The part you quoted has to do with fuel production. What method of loading quicker were you suggesting? Just trying to clear up my confusion.

No, it�s an increase on fuel/oil loading rates.

Say you have 300 oil and 300 refinery at the same base, and you load tankers. As all the oil produced by the OC is used by the OR, the OC will provide no increase in loading rates, but the OR produces 2700 fuel daily, so loading rate of fuel will increase by 1350, up to a limit of 2700.