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[Logged] Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 1/22/2021 10:06:33 PM

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So I was doing a "Sandbox" scenario where I was trying having the tankers in the mission as Escorts (so they stay with the bombers) but it doesn't matter despite having the doctrine for the side and units set to refuel the aircraft refuse to refuel. This is not the first time I've encountered this and no change in doctrine seems to solve the issue!

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 1/22/2021 10:08:26 PM

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So here are the messages where the aircraft refuse to refuel and the doctrine settings for the group. Maybe I'm missing something gere but what I don't know.

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 1/23/2021 1:35:27 AM

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So as a group it does say you can refuel, but once you select individual bombers, it says they can't refuel. So using unit over group will allow you to fix it.

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 1/24/2021 10:56:00 PM

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 1/24/2021 11:34:28 PM

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TY. Wasn't sure whether it was a tech issue or I was just missing something?

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 12:37:49 AM

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My guess is that the individual planes have an overriding ROE. I run into this myself sometimes - my habit is to always reset the units in the group to default so the group ROE takes control.

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 10:05:51 PM

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I did try setting the Doctrine for individual aircraft without success. In fact I reset Aircraft, Groups and side Doctrine, again without success.

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 11:39:52 PM

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What I did for this was..
Go to the mission of the group Mugger87
Click on the mission Doctrine
Click on Reset Affected units (forces all assigned units to match this ROE)
Close down the ME screens and try refueling Mugger87

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 11:45:06 PM

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OK, for the record I didn't put this in Tech support. But I think the question comes to mind, if the player can't get them to refuel, because of all the different areas where doctrine can cause an issue, isn't that something that's going to frustrate the players? I know I've encountered refueling issues so many times where I've unassigned the aircraft from missions and changed doctrine everywhere I can find and to no avail. So maybe you can get it to work, but if the player cant...

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 11:47:40 PM

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BTW, to assist in mismatched ROE, it is planned to 'color-code' the options that differ between the selected ROE and the affected units.
Example for the Mugger87 group.
It indicates that the ROE differs between the group ROE and the individual planes.

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RE: Areal Refueling, what am I missing here???? - 2/1/2021 11:56:16 PM

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THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL!!!!!!!!!

There are just too many places were the doctrine can get messed up, so yes, IMHO, (for what it is worth) that would be an awesome player aide!

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