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Transferring Italian units to the East - 2/6/2021 9:17:34 PM

ViperX

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Can you transfer more Italian divisions to the East Front than exists in CSIR ?

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RE: Transferring Italian units to the East - 2/6/2021 9:22:20 PM

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depends.

If you set up the Theatre box with the enhanced system then yes, you can pull a Theatre down to around 90% (I forget the exact ratio) of what it needs, so yes you could run down Italy or North Africa or the Balkans.

Now is this a good idea? Well that is a different question.

a) you'll be shedding regular VP for being below the required allocations, so that allocation to the war with the Soviets had better pay off quickly to compensate

b) the Western Allies will make faster progress, so Italy will surrender earlier, the invasion of France earlier, the loss of Western Germany will occur earlier

c) you need to find the logistics capacity to make the best use of these extra formations.

I'd suggest its a 'win early/or lose big time' trade off

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RE: Transferring Italian units to the East - 2/6/2021 9:24:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: loki100

depends.

If you set up the Theatre box with the enhanced system then yes, you can pull a Theatre down to around 90% (I forget the exact ratio) of what it needs, so yes you could run down Italy or North Africa or the Balkans.

Now is this a good idea? Well that is a different question.

a) you'll be shedding regular VP for being below the required allocations, so that allocation to the war with the Soviets had better pay off quickly to compensate

b) the Western Allies will make faster progress, so Italy will surrender earlier, the invasion of France earlier, the loss of Western Germany will occur earlier

c) you need to find the logistics capacity to make the best use of these extra formations.

I'd suggest its a 'win early/or lose big time' trade off

Thanks for your answer !

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RE: Transferring Italian units to the East - 2/7/2021 1:51:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ViperX

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ORIGINAL: loki100

depends.

If you set up the Theatre box with the enhanced system then yes, you can pull a Theatre down to around 90% (I forget the exact ratio) of what it needs, so yes you could run down Italy or North Africa or the Balkans.

Now is this a good idea? Well that is a different question.

a) you'll be shedding regular VP for being below the required allocations, so that allocation to the war with the Soviets had better pay off quickly to compensate

b) the Western Allies will make faster progress, so Italy will surrender earlier, the invasion of France earlier, the loss of Western Germany will occur earlier

c) you need to find the logistics capacity to make the best use of these extra formations.

I'd suggest its a 'win early/or lose big time' trade off

Thanks for your answer !

At the same time would abandoning Africa and Tunis early on could conserve force for better defense of Sicily and mainland Italy. Tunis alone cost around 300.000 Troop to Axis.

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RE: Transferring Italian units to the East - 2/7/2021 2:29:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: guctony

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ORIGINAL: ViperX

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ORIGINAL: loki100

depends.

If you set up the Theatre box with the enhanced system then yes, you can pull a Theatre down to around 90% (I forget the exact ratio) of what it needs, so yes you could run down Italy or North Africa or the Balkans.

Now is this a good idea? Well that is a different question.

a) you'll be shedding regular VP for being below the required allocations, so that allocation to the war with the Soviets had better pay off quickly to compensate

b) the Western Allies will make faster progress, so Italy will surrender earlier, the invasion of France earlier, the loss of Western Germany will occur earlier

c) you need to find the logistics capacity to make the best use of these extra formations.

I'd suggest its a 'win early/or lose big time' trade off

Thanks for your answer !

At the same time would abandoning Africa and Tunis early on could conserve force for better defense of Sicily and mainland Italy. Tunis alone cost around 300.000 Troop to Axis.

You can't go that far, you have to keep 90% in the Theatre so that is not enough to avoid the mass surrender in Tunisia so all you do is to bring your losses etc much earlier into the game.

No one is playing the Western Allies, they are completely abstracted in effect as taking regions off the axis over time and causing attrition losses in the active theatres. So in turn the Axis player is making no strategic decisions for the war against them - but has some (limited) choices to make over relative force allocation.

This isn't War in Europe, despite the better placement of the Axis-Soviet struggle in the context of the wider war.

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