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Improved scenario ? - 3/19/2021 5:50:42 PM   
Franciscus


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Status: offline 		Any chance in the future for an expanded NA scenario ?

- beginning with the Italian offensive of 1940
- including Malta, Gibraltar, Crete, Sicily and southern italy
- including british and italian naval forces

I think there are many players interested in such a global Mediterranean scenario

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/21/2021 3:43:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		You mean an entire Mediterranean theater campaign? Possible. There aren't many games out there like this. I think 1 from the 1990s.

It is a very difficult theater to balance correctly. I have a China 1937 scenario in WarPlan Pacific. Someone asked to have a campaign game 37-45 for the Pacific but it is just not doable or balanced. If the Japanese crush the Chinese Allies lose. If the Chinese crush the Japanese Japan loses.

I have never played a 1937-1945 World in Flames game that the victor wasn't already known by 1939. Either the Axis had a huge advantage or the Allies.

WarPlan 2 will be global 1939-1945. That is easy to do.

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/21/2021 5:08:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa

You mean an entire Mediterranean theater campaign? Possible. There aren't many games out there like this. I think 1 from the 1990s.


There is a demand.
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4978468

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/21/2021 9:54:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, there is a demand for such a game and I think WarPlan engine could deliver...

At the very least including a full naval game - but for that, Malta should be present, Gibraltar probably also, Sicily, Crete ?

A game start in 1940 would also be great, although some balance would be needed.
The end game date could also perhaps remain as it is now...

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/22/2021 10:49:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		What would be good is to have a 1-1 relationship for ships in this scenario. Like this, we will have the real number of CVs, BBs, ...

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/22/2021 5:13:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll put it on the list of scenarios.

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/23/2021 7:51:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Franciscus

Any chance in the future for an expanded NA scenario ?

- beginning with the Italian offensive of 1940
- including Malta, Gibraltar, Crete, Sicily and southern italy
- including british and italian naval forces

I think there are many players interested in such a global Mediterranean scenario


Perhaps adding the following can be feasible on the same map:

- Tarento for the famous British air raid there
- invasion of Greece
- invasion of Vichy Syria
- operation Torch
- and the Tunisia campaign of course

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 3/30/2021 4:24:54 AM   
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RE: Improved scenario ? - 4/16/2021 4:55:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Double Amazing....there is a dearth of North African Campaign games for the PC that are grognard style! There is a huge demand for this from what I have heard...for a long time.....

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RE: Improved scenario ? - 4/19/2021 4:34:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Franciscus

Yes, there is a demand for such a game and I think WarPlan engine could deliver...

At the very least including a full naval game - but for that, Malta should be present, Gibraltar probably also, Sicily, Crete ?

A game start in 1940 would also be great, although some balance would be needed.
The end game date could also perhaps remain as it is now...

+1 for the demand!

I have been hoping for a game/scenario like this ever since I started to imagine a PC version of the old Avalon Hill Afrika Korps game. The current scenario is great but obviously better played against a human opponent.
TOAW has a full NA scenario, but I have always found it a little too daunting/complex to play. The WarPlan scenario has good depth and is more accessible/playable. IMO it is a perfect balance between the more relative simplicity of Strategic Command games, which I love too (but after years of playing them, I needed a change like WarPlan), and TOAW.

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