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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/10/2021 3:21:01 PM

KLAB

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>DB3k #3126 AA-12 Adder C [R-77M] Amend range to 104nm (193km)</summary>

<detail>Open source information indicates the latest incarnation of the R-77 NATO AA-12C Adder variously designated as R-77M Idz-180 has a range in the region 104nm / 193km, although there is no qualification of in what circumstances this is achieved it could be assumed to be in ideal circumstances with a non evading large target head on.
As this is the principle air to air weapon of the Su-57 it would seem logical that it was designed with known characteristics of OPFOR weapons in mind and to be geared to out range the AIM-120D , one of the few advantages of playing techno catch up being that you know what it is your up against?
Despite some dialogues it appears to be a dual impulse rocket not a Meteor like ramjet</detail>

<evidence>
https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/russias-new-k-77-air-to-air-missile-spotted-on-su-57-stealth-fighter-jet/23543/
https://rg.ru/2020/10/05/meniaet-pravila-igry-military-watch-ocenil-novuiu-raketu-dlia-su-57.html
http://nevskii-bastion.ru/2020/10/05/06-10-2020/
https://rg.ru/2020/10/05/meniaet-pravila-igry-military-watch-ocenil-novuiu-raketu-dlia-su-57.html
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/rvv-sd/
</evidence>
for consideration to amend the range?
Thanks
K

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/10/2021 9:04:11 PM

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<type>Add</type>

<summary>Add Myanmar Makassar class LPD 1501 Moattama 2021</summary>

<detail>Myanmar receive a Makass LPD in 2019 but first operational cruise 2021. Moattama is a 122 m LPD that was commissioned in December 2019. The vessel was launched in Busan, South Korea around July 2019, and is largely similar to the Makassar-class LPDs supplied by DAE SUN Shipbuilding and Engineering Company to Indonesia and Philippines. Displacing about 11,300 tonnes, Moattama is Myanmar Navy�s largest vessel yet. It has a flight deck that can accommodate two medium Mil Mi-17 transport helicopters. Additionally, the vessel can also carry 15 armoured vehicles and a contingent of 250 marines. Can copy #2421. No visible weapons. </detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMS_Moattama
https://twitter.com/CollinSLKoh/status/1364032130573983748
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/myanmar-deploys-amphibious-ship-to-malaysia-as-part-of-repatriation-operations
https://aagth1.blogspot.com/2019/12/lpd-ums-moattama.html?spref=tw
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/12/2021 7:26:42 PM

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<type>Add</type>

<summary>Add Vietnamese KA-28 1990 x 10</summary>

<detail>Vietname received 10 KA-28PL in 1990. Used on Gepards and air stations. Can copy #637 </detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/DavidDetten/status/1370032517097660419
https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/gfsyu4/vietnam_peoples_navy_airforce_ka28_and_dhc_6/
https://medium.com/indo-pacific-geomill/vietnamese-navy-gepard-frigates-4424deb08172
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/14/2021 7:38:58 PM

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Issue with the GBU-KGGB (Weapon #3726) I saw: Its database entry doesn't have flags for being able to attack "hard" land targets, despite other weapons with a similar sized warhead having those/being capable of doing so.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/16/2021 3:22:15 AM

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/17/2021 11:33:41 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Adjust CEA OPS and CEA TAC radars in Australian NASAMS units</summary>

<detail>In-game Australian NASAMS units appear to feature incorrectly depicted radars. In reality, the CEA-OPS radar is a larger truck-mounted GaN AESA used for volume search as well as FCR functions. The CEA-TAC radar is a smaller Hawkei mounted GaN AESA likely designed more strictly for FCR purposes.

<evidence>
https://www.raytheon.com/sites/default/files/2019-04/ADBR_WorldLeader!_Land19_Supplement.pdf?linkId=66006150
https://adbr.com.au/cea-unveils-hawkei-mounted-ceatac-radar-for-land-19-ph-7b/
https://www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/land/ceatac-and-ceaops-radars-for-land-19-phase-7b
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/19/2021 3:31:39 AM

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<type>Add</type>

<summary>Add Hunter Class variant of Type 26 Frigate</summary>

<detail>The Hunter Class Frigate was selected to replace the ANZAC Class Frigates in RAN service under the SEA5000 program. Based on publically available information, the vessels will include the following features:

Sensors & Combat System/Interface
- CEA FAR2 GaN AESA
- Ultra S2150 Hull Mounted Sonar
- Sonar 2087 towed array and VDS
- Aegis combat system
- Saab 9LV tactical interface

EW/Decoys
- Nulka decoy launchers
- Nixie torpedo decoys (likely)

Armament
- 1 x 32 cell Mk41 VLS for: SM2 Blk IIIC, SM6 Blk I(A/B), ESSM Blk II, long-range anti-ship/land-attack cruise missile (TBD)
- 2 x 4 cell topside canister launched AShM (TBD) - likely candidates are NSM or LRASM
- 1 � 5-inch 54 calibre Mark 45 Mod 4 dual-purpose gun
- 2 x CIWS - likely Phalanx IB
- 2 x 30mm gun mounts
- MU90 lightweight torpedos

*Other features should be common across Type 26 variants

<evidence>
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/maritime-antisub/7529-defence-to-invest-1bn-in-long-range-missile-technology
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/maritime-antisub/7439-op-ed-all-systems-go-for-next-gen-hunter-class-frigate-program
https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/australia-to-boost-its-naval-arsenal-to-counter-china/
https://www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/sea/details-emerge-on-sea-1300-phase-1
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/whats-up-with-the-royal-australian-navys-weapons-program/
https://www.navy.gov.au/fleet/ships-boats-craft/future/ffg
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/19/2021 12:46:54 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Update Facility #3161 TBG to LRHW</summary>

<detail> 4 TEL per battery (2 canisters per TEL)

LRHW battery fielding will complete in Fiscal Year (FY) 2023 with the delivery of live missile rounds.

</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28340/heres-what-the-armys-first-ever-operational-hypersonic-missile-unit-will-look-like
https://defence-blog.com/news/army/lockheed-martin-releases-first-image-of-new-hypersonic-long-range-missile-system.html
https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1314257209895849987
https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6560158/hypersonic-delivery

</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/20/2021 8:40:26 AM

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<type>add</type>
<summary>Add F-16C/D Blk 32 PBU [Peace Bridge Upgrade]</summary>
<detail>At the end of 2016, Korea completed a total of 34 F-16 BLOCK 32 PB upgrades program.

AN/APG-68 has replaced with APG-68(V)7, AIM-120B/C, GBU-31, AGM-88, AGM-84, AIM-9L/M/X, AGM-65G integration
New mission computer (MMC-7000), LN-260 EGPS/INS, MIDS/LVT-6 (LINK-16), New AIFF System.

Photo of the F-16D Block 32 PBU #90-941 armed with AIM-120C and AIM-9

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/rok_09-23.pdf
https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/korea_20-15_cn.pdf
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20161219004500315?section=search
https://www.airliners.net/photo/South-Korea-Air-Force/General-Dynamics-F-16C-Fighting-Falcon-401/5808747/L?qsp=eJwtjcEKwjAQRP9lz3oQsdTe6g/owR9YNkMNxCbsrtBS%2Bu/G4G1485jZSPLsWPy5FtBABlZ50YEKK7%2BNho0UUzRX9pjnUfzDqXp9d7z01%2BpZVr%2BtlQR2jCIojvDndw3QXwWTNjnVi1MN0EfLdO4qD9FK4rYB55ho378uZTHZ
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/pcGssxNyX1z-ApZ82iwR3FTJPchqKOMkPz98--oaI1ndaZw6JCmF5_1w22I7AdmrFb_CCWt29iov3Z5FAZ9EeMvANnVOTz9zYWBNEBrYNB9nCkTK2qQYvAElMPd4Cg
https://i.imgur.com/htYfykD.jpg
https://img8.yna.co.kr/photo/yna/YH/2016/12/19/PYH2016121907910001300_P4.jpg
</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/20/2021 4:45:24 PM

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The TPY-2 radar needs to have its range significantly increased.

In CMO, this radar is listed as having a range of 540 miles. The data cited in the database is from 2013.
This radar is the anti-ballistic radar used by the THAAD system.
There are numerous sources that indicate that the radar has a much longer range, even from the same source (Wikipedia, 2013) that is used by the game which was used to give the radar its 540 mile range.
The current Wikipedia source indicates that the radar has a 2900 mile range.
Many of the cited reports indicate that the radar works with the SM-3 IIA, which has a 1300-mile range. In order to utilize the missile's range, it would need a radar that extends beyond 540 miles.

There are so many resources available on this topic. The range of the radar would obviously have to be greater than the weapon. If the SM IIA has a range of 1300 miles, then the TPY-2 has to be somewhere close to that
It is stated that the radar can track a baseball in flight from several hundred miles away. If that's the case, then optics have to be unbelievable.

Much of the ABM defense is going to be based on ballistic missile defense. As stated, your own Wikipedia source has been updated to something greater. It's time that the TPY-2's range in the game be updated as well.

Lastly, for whatever reason, the TPY-2 only starts detecting a DF-21 at about 340 miles away, instead of the listed 540. So, with a diminished range to start off with, the range is even further reduced.

The TPY-2 needs to have a significant range upgrade in order to be relevant at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPY-2
https://www.raytheon.com/news/feature/tpy-2_modes
https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2015/bmds/2015thaad.pdf?ver=2019-08-22-105935-090
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2016/07/17/thaad-radar-ranges-july-17-2018/
https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/capabilities/products/antpy-2
https://www.armyrecognition.com/united_states_american_missile_system_vehicle_uk/thaad_terminal_high_altitude_area_defense_missile_system_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html

Doug

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/21/2021 6:14:51 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Reactivate #193 - SAM coy (RBS 23 Bamse) (Sweden-2010) </summary>

<detail>
The Swedish Armed Forces has reactivated the country�s air defence missile system 23 and will be stationed in Gotland.
The �reintroduction� of this missile system comes after it was put in the materiel reserve for a few years.
The medium-range air defence system was developed in the 1990s and completed in the early 2000s.

According to the Swedish Armed Forces, the unit in the materiel reserve trained at the Air Defence Regiment (LV6) in the Swedish city of Halmstad.

The part of Missile system 23, which launches the surface-to-air missile, is called �Launch unit 23�.
Launch unit 23 is a missile vehicle that can be towed by any type of pulling vehicle. The roof of the vehicle is mounted with a gun carriage with six launch-ready missiles, an extendable 8m-long mast with command radar and an infrared camera.
The unit can be connected to the central reconnaissance radar called as �Intelligence unit 23�. It can also, however, operate independently if needed.

Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) Army Materiel head Mikael Frisell said: �The system has now been tested at Saab in Karlskoga, and it is working.</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/en/news/2021/03/gotland-air-defence-is-reinforced/
https://militaryleak.com/2021/03/20/sweden-reactivates-rbs-23-air-defence-missile-system-in-gotland/
https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/sweden-reactivates-air-defence-missile-system-23-in-gotland/
</evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 3/21/2021 6:29:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BDukes

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add US Army Lower Tier Air and Missile Defense Sensor (LTAMDS)2022 to Patriot Batteries</summary>
<detail>
Replacement for MPQ-53/65 Patriot Radars. 360 Degree Arc. AESA. C band primary. X and S for illumination. 100+nm range.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/news/feature/meet-new-radar
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1361533267778949120
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defense-systems/lower-tier-air-and-missile-defense-sensor-ltamds/
https://www.army.mil/article/237878/army_gets_closer_to_fielding_new_air_defense_systems
</evidence>

To give some extra clues:

"At an unclassified level, I can say that we [LTAMDS] see about two and a half times as far as a PATRIOT radar does." ~ Robert Kelley Raytheon Missiles & Defense
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39832/lower-tier-air-and-missile-defense-system-the-armys-future-super-radar

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 3/21/2021 7:53:56 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Loadout for F-15E</summary>

<detail>
Strike Eagle proven capable of carrying 15 JDAMs on single sortie
By 1st Lt. Savanah Bray, 53rd Wing / Published March 02, 2021

EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- The 85th Test and Evaluation Squadron successfully flew an F-15E Strike Eagle carrying six JDAMs on a single side of the aircraft on Feb 22, 2021, showcasing a proof of concept for Agile Combat Employment, known as �ACE.�

�Currently the F-15E is authorized to carry a max of nine JDAMs, but the success of this test expands that to 15 JDAMs,� said Maj. Andrew Swanson, F-15E Weapons System Officer, 85th TES.
�The Strike Eagle can now carry enough JDAMs for an active combat mission, land at a remote location, and reload itself and/or another aircraft � such as an F-35 or F-22 � for additional combat sorties,� said Lt. Col. Jacob Lindaman, commander, 85th TES.

While not all the JDAMs carried can be employed in a single mission, this proves the Strike Eagle�s ability to ferry JDAMs while simultaneously releasing them on an active combat mission � a key component to the ACE model. The combat tactic of reloading in a remote location previously took two C-130s to carry the necessary munitions and personnel. Once at the location, the JDAMs had to be assembled, taking extra time. The additional carriage on the F-15E allows fully assembled JDAMs to be transported, reducing the requirement to just one C-130 and saving eliminating onsite bomb building.
</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.53rdwing.af.mil/News/Article/2520577/strike-eagle-proven-capable-of-carrying-15-jdams-on-single-sortie/
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 3/21/2021 8:56:13 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Reactivate #884 - SSM Plt ( RBS 15KA Mk2) Sweden 1997-2000) </summary>

<detail>
Sweden Re-introducing Truck-Based RBS15 Coastal Defence Batteries

The Swedish Armed Forces (F�rsvarsmakten) announced today that land-based coastal defence batteries are on their way back. By reintroducing them, the Swedish Navy will be able to launch Saab-made RBS15 anti-ship missiles from the country's coastlines against targets at sea at great distances.
The coastal batteries will be deployed by the Swedish Navy. They are being re-created through the use of former decommissioned coastal missile batteries (launcher vehicles) as well as from missiles and launchers taken from decommissioned missile boats and corvettes.

The system is based on the RBS15 anti-ship missile, a missile already in use with the Swedish Navyand Air Force.

"The system has been tested in full-scale trials, where the RBS15 has been fired with good results and a coastal missile unit now takes part in the Navy's ongoing exercise Swenex 16, conducted in the waters between S�dert�rn and V�stervik and around Gotland. This has been in good cooperation with FMV and Saab" said Defense Logistics Manager Thomas Engevall.

Swenex 16 is implemented on the basis of a "security operation" in a worsening external environment located on the Swedish east coast of central and local coordination with the Coast Guard, Maritime Administration, Police and others under the leadership of the Marine tactical commander.

About RBS15
The RBS-15 (Robotsystem 15) is a long-range fire-and-forget surface-to-surface and air-to-surface, anti-ship missile. The later version Mk3 (not used yet by Sweden but in use with the German and Polish navies) has the ability to attack land targets as well. Due to its high maneuverability, the long-range, all-weather capable, fire-and-forget RBS15 Mk3 missile can track targets in low-level flight directly above the water surface and fly around or over islands at distances up to and far beyond 200km.
It is extremely resistant to electronic countermeasures and characterized by high robustness against air defence sites employing guided and tube weapons, for instance, by unexpected evasive maneuvers during terminal approach.
</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2016/november-2016-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/4587-sweden-re-introducing-truck-based-rbs15-coastal-defence-batteries.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=148&v=0NHK6sY4uYs&feature=emb_logo
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DB Addition request - 3/22/2021 5:43:06 AM

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Want to build a scenario to simulate the recent Azerbaijan-Armenian conflict - specifically the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war

The Azerbaijanis won decisively using Turkish UAVs and Israeli Loitering Munitions drones - specifically:
IAI Harop
https://www.iai.co.il/p/harop
Turkish Bayraktar TB2

The Turkish TB2 appears to be in the database but I could not find the Israeli IAI Harop - there was an armed UCAV I could substitute as a stopgap.
But Loitering Munitions are somewhat different - designed to be assigned a target (in this war by the TB2) and then 'suicide' into it with its loaded munitions.
If the Harop runs low on fuel before being used it RTBs/refuels and relaunches.

Is the Harop in the DB and I missed it, or if not could it be added?

Thanks

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/22/2021 9:51:59 AM

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Harop is in the DB3k already.

DB ref .
#2620 - SSM Bty (Harop TEL) (Israel - 2010)
There is an entry for India too.#2618.

Quick scenario check and it seems to work as the HAROP would, launched, loitered waiting for a target and attacked when one found as instructed.

http://cmano-db.com/index.php
The DB link above is useful for quick checks although it's not the most recent DB it is a good quick way of checking and is mobile device friendly.
Cheers
K

quote:

ORIGINAL: acbennett3

Want to build a scenario to simulate the recent Azerbaijan-Armenian conflict - specifically the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war

The Azerbaijanis won decisively using Turkish UAVs and Israeli Loitering Munitions drones - specifically:
IAI Harop
https://www.iai.co.il/p/harop
Turkish Bayraktar TB2

The Turkish TB2 appears to be in the database but I could not find the Israeli IAI Harop - there was an armed UCAV I could substitute as a stopgap.
But Loitering Munitions are somewhat different - designed to be assigned a target (in this war by the TB2) and then 'suicide' into it with its loaded munitions.
If the Harop runs low on fuel before being used it RTBs/refuels and relaunches.

Is the Harop in the DB and I missed it, or if not could it be added?

Thanks

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/22/2021 11:02:20 AM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>RAF Typhoon FGR4, There are some relevant errors in the capabilities and loadouts of the Typhoon and other Eurofighters in general.</summary>

<detail>
Maximum altitude: 55,000ft, not 45,000ft as it now appears in the database

AESA radar: new radar is ECRS MK2, not CAPTOR-E. ECR2 MK2 will have Electronic Attack. IOC 2025, no AESA radar until then.

quote:

The first Radar Two will fly in a Typhoon in 2022, and the T&E fleet will build steadily from there, achieving IOC (initial operational capability) for the ECRS Mk 2 soon after 2025.

Loadouts: GBU-24 is not integrated into the Eurofighter. The only anti-bunker armament the Typhoon has are Paveway IV and Storm Shadow.

The Eurofighter can only carry 2000lbs category weapons on the three wet pylons, and in addition the centre pylon is required for a laser designation pod in the case of carrying laser-guided weapons.

This also conditions the cruise missile load shown in the database (2x Storm Shadow + 3 1000L tanks is wrong).

If the Typhoon carries 2 Storm Shadow it can only carry ONE 1000L tank (also the Italian Eurofighter has this configuration).

</detail>

<evidence>

https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/typhoon-fgr4/
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-09-14/britains-long-awaited-radar-two-program-breaks-cover
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39792/british-typhoons-have-used-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-for-the-first-time-in-combat
</evidence>

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/22/2021 11:10:03 PM

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Absolutely incredible sim! Thank you to all the devs and everyone involved in making it such an amazing program.

CMANO & CMO

I would like to request the addition of some hypothetical units:

Chinese H-20 bomber
American Columbia-class boomer
�Rods from God� kinetic orbital strike
Space-Based Jamming/ECM and GPS/SatNav interference

I�m also curious if the consumer version of CMO will feature hypersonic weapons at some point?

Again, love Command: Modern Operations. You guys are absolutely awesome. Thank you for all your hard work.

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/23/2021 12:09:07 AM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary>Update SM6 Blk IB surface target range and top speed</summary>

<detail>The forthcoming SM6 Block IB is now regularly cited as one of the hypersonic weapons currently in development by the United States. The in-game weapon, however, hits a top speed of just under Mach 4. It is not yet clear what the new missile's top speed will actually be, but Mach 5 would be a minimum for it to qualify as hypersonic.

Furthermore, the missile's max ranges for air and surface targets are currently identical, however due to the more energetically efficient nature of ballistic surface to surface missile trajectories (that do not require the same level of manoeuvring capability or course adjustments to hit their target), the max range against surface targets should exceed the effective/max range against aircraft. Admittedly, open source information does not yet seem to cover the size of this difference, but as it stands the in-game weapon seems to be under-performing in this area.

It is worth considering, for example, that the Army/USMC PrSM is a significantly smaller missile (with a nonetheless heavier 200lb warhead) that will still outrange the in-game SM6 Blk IB by some ~70nm in the surface to surface role...</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40178/navy-sm-6-missile-will-attempt-to-swat-down-a-mock-hypersonic-weapon
https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-21-378.pdf
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27068/navy-to-supersize-its-ultra-versatile-sm-6-missile-for-even-longer-range-and-higher-speed
https://insidedefense.com/insider/navy-seeks-382-million-reprogramming-hypersonic-extended-range-upgrade-sm-6
https://www.realcleardefense.com/2020/03/14/document_likely_shows_sm-6_hypersonic_speed_anti-surface_role_312550.html
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/04/can-army-triple-prsm-missile-range/
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RE: DB Addition request - 3/23/2021 5:25:20 PM

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In CMO, Chinese Type 055 destroyer has 128 VLS cells (2x64), while in reality it has 112 (64 forward, 48 aft).

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/03/chinas-2nd-type-055-destroyer-lhasa-%E6%8B%89%E8%90%A8-commissioned-with-plan/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjKtbX79sbvAhXT8OAKHYytBykQFjAEegQIBBAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdigital-commons.usnwc.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1004%26context%3Dcmsi-maritime-reports&usg=AOvVaw3lSnx6R-TINCgRudNZK0Ty

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/23/2021 7:40:15 PM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add 2021 out of service date to #1934 WHEC 715 Hamilton </summary>
<detail> Last USCG Hamilton (Munroe) will be decommissioned in April. Please add out of service date to #1934 entry.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1372282038200455178
</evidence>

Thanks!

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/23/2021 8:10:25 PM

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<type>Update</type>

<summary> AGM-114L and MGM-114 should be able to engage aerial targets </summary>

<detail>

The AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire missile can engage low-flying aerial targets. Platforms such as the MML or IM-SHORAD can use these missiles against UAVs or helicopters.

In addition, from platforms such as the Apache, the Hellfire missile can also engage slow flying targets too. Israel has used its Apache in this way, shooting down an Iranian UAV in 2018.

</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIijdoBcCW4

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/army-ground-launched-hellfire-missiles-destroys-drone-target/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1Xu8-a97s
</evidence>

< Message edited by 14yellow14 -- 3/23/2021 8:15:20 PM >

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/24/2021 8:14:46 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add #484 GBU-39 to F-35I Adir 2018 (#3447) and F-35I Adir 2025 (#4700)</summary>
<detail> Foto shows F-35I with GBU-39 bombs, ready to load. Load rack is of F-35 only. (see second evidence link).
</detail>
<evidence>
https://defencehub.live/threads/israeli-air-force-%D7%96%D6%B0%D7%A8%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%A2%D6%B7-%D7%94%D6%B8%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%95%D6%B4%D7%99%D7%A8-%D7%95%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B6%D7%97%D6%B8%D7%9C%D6%B8%D7%9C%E2%80%8E.702/

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pilootenvliegtuig.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F11%2F201019jad0072.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pilootenvliegtuig.nl%2F2020%2F11%2F10%2F82306%2F&tbnid=F0SVQ16ciNlVQM&vet=12ahUKEwio9f_pu8jvAhXDOuwKHVe-CaIQMygBegUIARCYAQ..i&docid=M0q3HcLd6YyuBM&w=1250&h=833&q=gbu-39%20f-35I&ved=2ahUKEwio9f_pu8jvAhXDOuwKHVe-CaIQMygBegUIARCYAQ
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< Message edited by Blast33 -- 3/24/2021 8:37:26 AM >

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/24/2021 8:25:29 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add #791 AGM-142F Popeye to F-15I Ra'am (#3447)</summary>
<detail> Foto shows F-15I with one Popeye missilea an AN/ASW-55 data link pod and one fuel tank as counterballance + Lantirn pods.</detail>
<evidence>
https://defencehub.live/threads/israeli-air-force-%D7%96%D6%B0%D7%A8%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%A2%D6%B7-%D7%94%D6%B8%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%95%D6%B4%D7%99%D7%A8-%D7%95%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B6%D7%97%D6%B8%D7%9C%D6%B8%D7%9C%E2%80%8E.702/
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< Message edited by Blast33 -- 3/24/2021 8:37:37 AM >

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/24/2021 8:35:09 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add #461 SPICE-2000 to F-15I Ra'am (#3447)</summary>
<detail> Foto shows F-15I with 4x Spice-2000 and 2x Sidewinder A/A missiles and one centreline fueltank.</detail>
<evidence>
https://defencehub.live/threads/israeli-air-force-%D7%96%D6%B0%D7%A8%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%A2%D6%B7-%D7%94%D6%B8%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%95%D6%B4%D7%99%D7%A8-%D7%95%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B6%D7%97%D6%B8%D7%9C%D6%B8%D7%9C%E2%80%8E.702/
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< Message edited by Blast33 -- 3/24/2021 8:38:57 AM >

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 3/24/2021 9:09:00 AM

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RE: DB Addition request - 3/24/2021 10:52:23 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blast33

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please add #484 GBU-39 to F-35I Adir 2018 (#3447) and F-35I Adir 2025 (#4700)</summary>
<detail> Foto shows F-35I with GBU-39 bombs, ready to load. Load rack is of F-35 only. (see second evidence link).
</detail>
<evidence>
https://defencehub.live/threads/israeli-air-force-%D7%96%D6%B0%D7%A8%D7%95%D6%B9%D7%A2%D6%B7-%D7%94%D6%B8%D7%90%D6%B2%D7%95%D6%B4%D7%99%D7%A8-%D7%95%D6%B0%D7%94%D6%B6%D7%97%D6%B8%D7%9C%D6%B8%D7%9C%E2%80%8E.702/

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pilootenvliegtuig.nl%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F11%2F201019jad0072.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pilootenvliegtuig.nl%2F2020%2F11%2F10%2F82306%2F&tbnid=F0SVQ16ciNlVQM&vet=12ahUKEwio9f_pu8jvAhXDOuwKHVe-CaIQMygBegUIARCYAQ..i&docid=M0q3HcLd6YyuBM&w=1250&h=833&q=gbu-39%20f-35I&ved=2ahUKEwio9f_pu8jvAhXDOuwKHVe-CaIQMygBegUIARCYAQ
</evidence>

Thanks!

And more ;)

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update loadouts F-35I Adir 2018 (#3447) to Block 3F </summary>

<detail>

With the exception of the first two aircraft, all of Israel�s jets reportedly have versions of the Block 3F software package, which would give the aircraft the ability to employ both GPS-guided Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and Paveway-series laser-guided bombs from its internal weapons bays while maintaining its full stealth characteristics. The U.S. Air Force has also cleared the GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bomb on its F-35As, which are similar to the F-35I.

Israel probably also has AIM-9X missiles, it was seen in an F-35 over Lebanon with external missiles. (DCSA https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/israel-aim-9x-sidewinder-missiles )

Also, RAMPAGE ALBM shoud be deleted. Israel can only introduce its new weaponry following the F-35I test aircraft received in late 2020 (F-35I 2025)

Block 3F loadouts:

</detail>

<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21015/israel-says-its-f-35is-have-flown-strikes-as-the-drumbeat-for-war-with-iran-gets-louder
https://theaviationist.com/2021/01/25/hezbollah-tv-correspondent-captures-first-images-of-israeli-f-35i-adir-jets-operating-inside-lebanese-airspace/
https://theaviationist.com/2020/11/13/lets-talk-about-the-one-of-a-kind-f-35i-adir-test-aircraft-the-israeli-air-force-has-just-received/
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/israel-aim-9x-sidewinder-missiles
https://defence-blog.com/news/aviation/israel-to-receive-additional-aim-9x-missiles-worth-9-2m.html
</evidence>

Thanks!

< Message edited by 14yellow14 -- 3/24/2021 11:18:15 AM >

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RE: SSC6 - 3/25/2021 9:45:58 PM

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<type>Amend</type>
<summary>#2217 - SSM Plt (SSC-6 Sennight [3K60 Bal-E]) (Russia [1992-] - 2009) has errors in both mounts and weapons.</summary>
<detail> Please amend typo with facility as #2217 shows mounts SSC-6 Switchblade TELAR [3M24E] should be SSC-6 Sennight TELAR [3M24 Bal].

Weapons on the mount are 8x SS-N-25 Switchblade [Kh-35 Uran] GLONASS and should be SSC-6 Sennight [Kh-35Bal]

SSC-6 Sennight [Bal] SSM missile mounts should match description of facility and #969 - SS-N-25 Switchblade [Kh-35 Uran] GLONASS replaced with matching land based version SSC-6 Sennight</detail>

<evidence>
As stated this is just to amend designations and create land based copy of SS-N-25 please.
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/bal.htm
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< Message edited by KLAB -- 3/25/2021 9:49:21 PM >

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RE: SSC6 - 3/25/2021 10:48:55 PM

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<type>Amend</type>
<summary>
#2890 - PK Vasil Bykov [Pr.22160] (Russia [1992-] - 2017)
#2419 - 828 Edermen [Pr.1241.8 Tarantul V] (Turkmenistan - 2013)
#2418 - HQ 375 [Pr.1241.8 Tarantul V] (Vietnam [1975-] - 2013)

DB-3K lists all the above vessels as having a 1x 57mm/75 A-220M mount.
In reality all have 76mm AK-176 main guns of different variants.
The 57mm A-220M is NOT in service yet.
</summary>
<detail> See links to images and news stories:
#2890 - PK Vasil Bykov [Pr.22160] (Russia [1992-] - 2017) Has 1x AK-176MA 76mm HE Naval Gun Upgrade - identical to #3202 - MRK Smerch Nanuchka III [Pr.1234.2] (Russia [1992-] - 2021)
As a further aside the Bykov's are primarily constabulary vessels and are unlikely to carry Calibre SSM in peacetime and don't (despite all the blurb) appear to have any Gibka mount for the Igla in their current form, it appears the Igla's are just crew shoulder launched weapons.
#2419 - 828 Edermen [Pr.1241.8 Tarantul V] (Turkmenistan - 2013) Has 1x AK-176 76mm/60 Single.
#2418 - HQ 375 [Pr.1241.8 Tarantul V] (Vietnam [1975-] - 2013) Has 1x AK-176 76mm/60 Single.

Amend armament as listed please. </detail>

<evidence>
https://fleetphoto.ru/photo/305092/?vid=13749 Edermen Photo dated 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hq375_converted.jpg HQ-375 Photo dated 2012 BUT POST UPGRADE

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SYJJZJOy5mc/XLsQ9V-srcI/AAAAAAABA14/QwcAH5iql9AaEn-YyENHb-RN11dobyxNACLcBGAs/s400/PIC%2B%25281%2529_0.jpeg
http://wardefenseenews.blogspot.com/2019/04/india-vietnam-hold-naval-exercise.html VIETNAM EXERCISE DATED 2019 PHOTO OF HQ-375.
https://www.navaltoday.com/2018/12/21/russia-commissions-first-project-22160-patrol-ship-vasily-bykov/
https://g7a6v6x7.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Russias-Project-22160-Patrol-Vessel-in-Air-Defense-Training-with-S-400-770x410.jpg Image of Bykov self evident 76mm gun not 57mm.</evidence>
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/au220m-imds-2015/ What the 57mm AU220 Naval mount looks like.
For consideration please as its an error impacting three vessels.
Thanks
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 3/26/2021 8:26:48 PM

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<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add S-75 Dvina/SA-2 Guideline based Ballistic Missiles used by PRC, Iran, Houthis>
<detail>
DF-7/Dongfeng 7/M-7/Project 8610/CSS-8
Chinese surface-to-surface tactical ballistic missile converted from HQ-1/2/3/4. M-7 missile is the only Chinese ballistic missile that can be launched at a slant angle. The rear section of the HQ SAMs are retained, but the forward half is greatly enlarged into a shuttle shape to house bigger warhead and more fuel, while the control surfaces on the forward section are deleted. Armed with a 500 kg warhead (two and half a time of that of the original SAM version) the maximum range of M-7 is 200 km (more than four times of that of the original SAM version).

Qaher-1
The Qaher-1 is originally a Soviet SA-2 missile that was developed locally by the Houthis to be a surface to surface missile that works on two stages, liquid fuel and solid fuel. It was unveiled in December 2015. The Houthis have fired many Qaher-1's into Saudi Arabia during the course of the Yemeni Civil War.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina#Major_variants
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/m-7.htm
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs2/11018521/20040617/11735607.html
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/china/m-7-8610css-8/
https://www.csis.org/analysis/iranian-missile-threat
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/iran/css-8-m-7/#:~:text=The%20Iranian%20CSS%2D8%20(M,carries%20a%20payload%20of%20190kg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tondar-69
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaher-1
https://web.archive.org/web/20180806181419/http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940922000452
</evidence>

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