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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 12:49:05 AM   
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The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support (have done that for some smaller titles but not necessary here). Because you want more games you will never play (at £60 - no I definitely don't want that!). Because you want more Eastern Front games (nope). Because you want more games with all the details included (yes - so long as it has the right mix of fun and playable). Because you want more games with limited naval warfare (not really too much of an issue with the Eastern Front).


warspite1

Thanks for the replies. I never could get into WITP-AE. Clearly a great game (given its dedicated following). It should have been perfect due to its naval theme. But I just could not get past the number of things I had to do, buttons I had to press and clicks I needed to make, just to put some aircraft on a carrier.

So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?


If you are an accountant you might like it.

For the most part it's very well done. There are only two things that put me off. Combat as movement in a ugoigo game is total BS. One week turns denies response time for the Soviet player. If it were North Africa one week turns would be fine. But it's not.

But then variety is the spice of life. Some like Haggis. So don't.


Mmmmmmmmmmmm Haggis




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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 5:12:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support (have done that for some smaller titles but not necessary here). Because you want more games you will never play (at £60 - no I definitely don't want that!). Because you want more Eastern Front games (nope). Because you want more games with all the details included (yes - so long as it has the right mix of fun and playable). Because you want more games with limited naval warfare (not really too much of an issue with the Eastern Front).


warspite1

Thanks for the replies. I never could get into WITP-AE. Clearly a great game (given its dedicated following). It should have been perfect due to its naval theme. But I just could not get past the number of things I had to do, buttons I had to press and clicks I needed to make, just to put some aircraft on a carrier.

So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?


If you are an accountant you might like it.

For the most part it's very well done. There are only two things that put me off. Combat as movement in a ugoigo game is total BS. One week turns denies response time for the Soviet player. If it were North Africa one week turns would be fine. But it's not.

But then variety is the spice of life. Some like Haggis. So don't.

Not for me then.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 8:30:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your continued responses.

A couple more questions.

Firstly, I like the idea that much can be automated. If I was to start a campaign game with essentially just moving the land units - can I change my preferences and take back control of the air and logistics mid-game?

Thank-you

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 9:02:24 AM   
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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 10:41:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support (have done that for some smaller titles but not necessary here). Because you want more games you will never play (at £60 - no I definitely don't want that!). Because you want more Eastern Front games (nope). Because you want more games with all the details included (yes - so long as it has the right mix of fun and playable). Because you want more games with limited naval warfare (not really too much of an issue with the Eastern Front).


warspite1

Thanks for the replies. I never could get into WITP-AE. Clearly a great game (given its dedicated following). It should have been perfect due to its naval theme. But I just could not get past the number of things I had to do, buttons I had to press and clicks I needed to make, just to put some aircraft on a carrier.

So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?


If you are an accountant you might like it.

For the most part it's very well done. There are only two things that put me off. Combat as movement in a ugoigo game is total BS. One week turns denies response time for the Soviet player. If it were North Africa one week turns would be fine. But it's not.

But then variety is the spice of life. Some like Haggis. So don't.

Not for me then.

You don't have to be an accountant....... I'm not, and I play it. One week turns are fine also. as for "response time", you in your turn can set units to reserve. The will respond to attacks.

Keep in mind that if you don't want to get into running the airforce or depot building, the AI can do it for you.


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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/1/2021 11:28:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not all that fond of the concept of "combat as movement". So that is my main reason for abstaining at the moment. The second reason is that I need a new computer to get the game to actually run.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 12:03:20 AM   
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I caved in and figure I'll get to it (maybe) before I pass on!

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 8:21:53 AM   
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Good gosh, what kind of rig are you running, Orm?


One that couldn't handle the strain of War in the West.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 1:15:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Last question - and a pretty important one.

I never know how to check the requirements of a game with what my computer can do.

Anyone know how I check my computer specs please?

Thank-you.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 1:42:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Last question - and a pretty important one.

I never know how to check the requirements of a game with what my computer can do.

Anyone know how I check my computer specs please?

Thank-you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ In search type in War in the West. It hasn't added the current one yet. Then hit the Can you Run it button. It will download a detection exe. Click that, and take it from there.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 7:12:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can also open the task manager and click on the "performance" tab to look at the CPU and the memory.

You can also open the control panel, click on "system and security" then click on "About" which will give you the total system memory and some graphics information. You can also get there by pressing the "Windows" key + "X" then selecting system.

Then there is this video to watch, it is not very long.

How to Check Your Computer Specs on Windows 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYn9AkRvjJs

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/2/2021 11:25:50 PM   
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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/3/2021 1:01:51 AM   
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warspite, you can use the dxdialog app.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/3/2021 1:09:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm


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ORIGINAL: Lobster


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Orm

The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support (have done that for some smaller titles but not necessary here). Because you want more games you will never play (at £60 - no I definitely don't want that!). Because you want more Eastern Front games (nope). Because you want more games with all the details included (yes - so long as it has the right mix of fun and playable). Because you want more games with limited naval warfare (not really too much of an issue with the Eastern Front).


warspite1

Thanks for the replies. I never could get into WITP-AE. Clearly a great game (given its dedicated following). It should have been perfect due to its naval theme. But I just could not get past the number of things I had to do, buttons I had to press and clicks I needed to make, just to put some aircraft on a carrier.

So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?


If you are an accountant you might like it.

For the most part it's very well done. There are only two things that put me off. Combat as movement in a ugoigo game is total BS. One week turns denies response time for the Soviet player. If it were North Africa one week turns would be fine. But it's not.

But then variety is the spice of life. Some like Haggis. So don't.

Not for me then.


But variety is the spice of life. Think of a buffet.

But then again, while variety is the spice of life, married people should not be caught sampling. Especially when the wife has access to the golf clubs. Is that not correct, Mr. Tiger Woods?

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/5/2021 11:18:13 PM   
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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/5/2021 11:41:49 PM   
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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/6/2021 12:54:41 AM   
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76mm, please let us know how you get along with your new purchase. I did buy, but am still working on the previous games!


Did you also get the physical version? The book needs a fork lift to unload off the UPS truck.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/6/2021 2:33:30 AM   
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76mm, please let us know how you get along with your new purchase. I did buy, but am still working on the previous games!

LOL, I let the AI play the first turn now it's been sitting open on my computer for three days waiting for me to play my turn...haven't pulled the trigger yet!

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Did you also get the physical version? The book needs a fork lift to unload off the UPS truck.

I don't do CDs or paper manuals any more, I prefer reading the manuals on my iPad. Although this one is kind of a biggie.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/6/2021 5:00:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aurelian


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Last question - and a pretty important one.

I never know how to check the requirements of a game with what my computer can do.

Anyone know how I check my computer specs please?

Thank-you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ In search type in War in the West. It hasn't added the current one yet. Then hit the Can you Run it button. It will download a detection exe. Click that, and take it from there.
warspite1

Thanks Emperor

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/6/2021 8:28:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Aurelian


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Last question - and a pretty important one.

I never know how to check the requirements of a game with what my computer can do.

Anyone know how I check my computer specs please?

Thank-you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ In search type in War in the West. It hasn't added the current one yet. Then hit the Can you Run it button. It will download a detection exe. Click that, and take it from there.
warspite1

Thanks Emperor

Ever get the feeling you wish you'd never asked though?

This compoooter malarchy is just sooo over my head


I started to write something but I decided against it . . .

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/6/2021 9:48:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Aurelian


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Last question - and a pretty important one.

I never know how to check the requirements of a game with what my computer can do.

Anyone know how I check my computer specs please?

Thank-you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ In search type in War in the West. It hasn't added the current one yet. Then hit the Can you Run it button. It will download a detection exe. Click that, and take it from there.
warspite1

Thanks Emperor

Ever get the feeling you wish you'd never asked though?

This compoooter malarchy is just sooo over my head


Rarely. You don't ask, you don't learn. At least in my Imperial Opinion. Or, as Bismarck said “Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.”

Don't worry about it being over your head. We can help you.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 3:37:13 AM   
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Or, as Bismarck said “Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.”


So basically he said if it weren't for fools he would be a complete idiot because he's too lazy to find out for himself.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 3:56:58 AM   
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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 1:42:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		One that makes the least amount of sense is:
"Do you know what happens when you assume? It makes an ass of u and me."

Oh, and there are indeed stupid questions.


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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 3:30:26 PM   
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One that makes the least amount of sense is:
"Do you know what happens when you assume? It makes an ass of u and me."

Oh, and there are indeed stupid questions.


Oh? If I state that I will post a rebel flag, you assume that I am referring to a rebellion that occurred in the 1860's in the United States of America and not a different rebellion in that country nor someplace such as the British Isles. When I post a flag that is not from that rebellion that you assumed, then you appear to be an . . .

Ye, stupid questions have been asked twice.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 5:41:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


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ORIGINAL: Lobster

One that makes the least amount of sense is:
"Do you know what happens when you assume? It makes an ass of u and me."

Oh, and there are indeed stupid questions.


Oh? If I state that I will post a rebel flag, you assume that I am referring to a rebellion that occurred in the 1860's in the United States of America and not a different rebellion in that country nor someplace such as the British Isles. When I post a flag that is not from that rebellion that you assumed, then you appear to be an . . .

Ye, stupid questions have been asked twice.


Exactly why the hell do you constantly do this to people. Most especially me and Mrs. Wargamer? If you have a problem with me then please ignore my posts. You are one of the most annoying people it has been my misfortune to know in any forum! Please leave me alone!

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 6:51:12 PM   
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Or, as Bismarck said “Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.”


So basically he said if it weren't for fools he would be a complete idiot because he's too lazy to find out for himself.


So you don't appear to believe in an education where you can learn by reading and observing others.

Just remember what Jorge Santayana said about that.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 7:41:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lobster


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ORIGINAL: Aurelian
Or, as Bismarck said “Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.”


So basically he said if it weren't for fools he would be a complete idiot because he's too lazy to find out for himself.


So you don't appear to believe in an education where you can learn by reading and observing others.

Just remember what Jorge Santayana said about that.

Stop needling people. Not every single post needs a response, especially an argumentative one.

I'll ask everyone to please try and remain positive and on-topic.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 9:48:32 PM   
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Or, as Bismarck said “Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others.”


So basically he said if it weren't for fools he would be a complete idiot because he's too lazy to find out for himself.


Probably

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 10:54:26 PM   
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