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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/9/2021 9:41:19 AM   
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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/9/2021 9:52:32 AM   
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Sub attack near Ebadon at 129,113

Japanese Ships
DD Kasumi, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Sennet


lol, that's the crippled DD that only moves a hex each day and the sub missed it...


SS Sennet launches 2 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Torishima at 110,66

Japanese Ships
E Inagi, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Ume

Allied Ships
SS Whale


shouldn't have laughed about it as the next sub attack kills an undamaged escort...

SS Whale launches 2 torpedoes at E Inagi
Whale diving deep ....
DD Ume fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ume attacking submerged sub ....
DD Ume fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ume fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ume fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub



progress on our aircraft industry as our Ha-43 engine pool has reached 500+ which means Shinden R&D is doubled from now on... we could have been increasing the pools faster but over 300 engines were going into monthly Sam production which was more important than further speeding up Shinden R&D... we're aiming at getting the Shinden in 1/45 but won't have much if any use for it at that date as the Shinden is a pure point defense fighter usually mostly for use in Japan against the Allied strategic bombing campaign... at the same time we will also see the Ki-94II going online which will replace the Frank in our IJAAF fighter squadrons and that one will be another big leap forward until Karyus arrive... in very late 45...






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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/12/2021 6:19:06 PM   
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 75

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 38


the enemy flies a B-29 attack out of Northern Australia without much effect and I'm not sure it is more than just showing presence of the heavy bombers in the region...


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb





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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/12/2021 6:22:23 PM   
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Submarine attack near Eniwetok at 125,109

Japanese Ships
DD Kasumi

Allied Ships
SS Roncador


Kasumi is the crippled destroyer that was trying to limp towards Truk which was attacked an missed by another sub a couple of days ago... funnily enough the destroyer was not listed as heavily damaged as previously even though the ship is closer to being sunk than being afloat... but the highlight was SS Roncador also missing the dead destroyer...


DD Kasumi is sighted by SS Roncador
SS Roncador launches 2 torpedoes


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Submarine attack near Eniwetok at 125,109

Japanese Ships
DD Kasumi, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Roncador


of course there had to be a third attack on Kasumi finally finishing her... lost because of a collision with another destroyer...


DD Kasumi is sighted by SS Roncador
SS Roncador launches 2 torpedoes




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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/14/2021 6:14:24 PM   
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kusaie Island at 125,118

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 44

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed


Mitchells showing up with a Marine escort to attack some shipping at Kusai... the strike was coming from Roi-Namur... the Corsairs had no chance due to a never ending dive but guess what, the B-25 was the known killer again due to the heavy frontal armament... two Franks were shot down outright attacking from the front... against attack bombers one has to be lucky to get a 2:1 with advanced fighters as just too many attack from the front and either being directly shot down or damaged (guess the ratio is somewhere around 50/50)...


CAP engaged:
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
30 planes vectored on to bombers








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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/15/2021 1:38:56 PM   
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kusaie Island at 125,118

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 44

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 2 destroyed


the Mitchells show up again and this time without escorts... one could think that would be a disadvantage for them but no, as they don't lose escorts that way and the super attack bombers down four Franks with their frontal armament... one of those things that just don't work in the game... 4 Franks and 4 Mitchells shot down...


CAP engaged:
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (14 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes








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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/15/2021 10:42:11 PM   
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the Mitchells show up again and this time without escorts... one could think that would be a disadvantage for them but no, as they don't lose escorts that way and the super attack bombers down four Franks with their frontal armament... one of those things that just don't work in the game... 4 Franks and 4 Mitchells shot down...


This one, I am totally in agreement with you. In modding, I have to be SO careful of AC armaments. And thankfully, these B25H's aren't mass produced like hotcakes, or the game would be really unbalanced. As you note, with high Air skill pilots, these aircraft are a one stop shopping spree: they can do every aircraft role really well.


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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 2:17:08 AM   
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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 9:07:45 AM   
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the Mitchells show up again and this time without escorts... one could think that would be a disadvantage for them but no, as they don't lose escorts that way and the super attack bombers down four Franks with their frontal armament... one of those things that just don't work in the game... 4 Franks and 4 Mitchells shot down...


This one, I am totally in agreement with you. In modding, I have to be SO careful of AC armaments. And thankfully, these B25H's aren't mass produced like hotcakes, or the game would be really unbalanced. As you note, with high Air skill pilots, these aircraft are a one stop shopping spree: they can do every aircraft role really well.



with the "all around" defensive armament of 4E bombers I tend to lose a Frank or George for two enemy bombers shot down (probably worse against pure B-17 strikes) but the attack bombers get a clean 1:1 over time and the kills only depend on the number of frontal attacks of the figthers, the more frontal attacks, the more dead fighters as pretty much every frontal attack results in a damaged or destroyed fighter

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 9:09:37 AM   
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Tell the IJA pilots not to attack these aircraft head on.


I would, if I could...

I would also tell my torpedo bombers not to waste 50% of their torpedos in attacks from impossible angles. In that case I am at least using dive bombers whenever possible but I can't tell my fighters how to attack bombers and unlike in real life, they don't learn how to do it.

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 3:02:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will say Head-on and Stern Torpedo attacks were part of the IJN Torpedo Bombing tactics and was used by the Japanese historically in order to force a enemy warship to expose its broadside from the other Torpedo bombers attacking from the aft and port side, realistically these "impossible" angles torpedoes would've wreck havoc on large fleets and Convoys but due to the limitations of this game its not modelled.

So there you have it, the answer for why your bombers keep attacking from those angles, however it seems that too many planes go for the head-on and Stern attacks, another reason we could explain for why they do that is AA fire being less intense or something, but its clearly obvious that their are still too much planes going to the head/Stern on attack thanks to coding.

I've seen a 2 TP bombers in a single strike going for stern only shots on a undefended Convoy for no absolute reason so its likely that the useless shots are coded to happen randomly in a Air attack and is split equally between an entire Air group.

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 3:56:59 PM   
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I will say Head-on and Stern Torpedo attacks were part of the IJN Torpedo Bombing tactics and was used by the Japanese historically in order to force a enemy warship to expose its broadside from the other Torpedo bombers attacking from the aft and port side, realistically these "impossible" angles torpedoes would've wreck havoc on large fleets and Convoys but due to the limitations of this game its not modelled.

So there you have it, the answer for why your bombers keep attacking from those angles, however it seems that too many planes go for the head-on and Stern attacks, another reason we could explain for why they do that is AA fire being less intense or something, but its clearly obvious that their are still too much planes going to the head/Stern on attack thanks to coding.

I've seen a 2 TP bombers in a single strike going for stern only shots on a undefended Convoy for no absolute reason so its likely that the useless shots are coded to happen randomly in a Air attack and is split equally between an entire Air group.

You haven't taken into account the defensive maneuvers of the plane being attacked. What started out as an attack from an angle can turn into a head-on attack if the enemy turns that way. I think the game models that sort of thing with random die rolls for the attacker's direction of attack. It might even take into account the defensive skill of the enemy pilot. C'est la guerre - we just accept that IRL fighters made a lot of passes that were not ideal.

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/16/2021 4:38:53 PM   
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Torpedo Attacks

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Flying at a low altitude, a torpedo plane would approach a target. The preferred attack position was to be facing either the bow or stern of the ship, since any way the ship turned would leave it vulnerable to a hit. Ideal attack position was with one or more planes on either bow of target. A large vessel like a carrier cannot turn in a small circle, so whether she turn to port or starboard at least one hit might be expected. The ideal attack position was with one or more planes on either bow of target. A large vessel like a carrier cannot turn in a small circle, so whether she turn to port or starboard at least one hit might be expected. Having torpedo planes approach a ship from both sides of the bow was known as the Anvil Attack (smashing the target on the Anvil), but the coordination of timing required was difficult to achieve.

When the torpedo plane was within 1,000 yards or less of the target, the torpedo was released. A 45-knot torpedo launched 1000 yards away takes 40 seconds to reach target. In 40 seconds a ship traveling at 30 knots moves 2,000 feet.


http://www.daveswarbirds.com/navalwar/torpedo.htm

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/17/2021 2:36:26 PM   
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Tell the IJA pilots not to attack these aircraft head on.



In the WW2 context, head on attacks made the most sense.

The narrow firing window tends to favour the attacking fighter more than the gunners on the bombers, as the relative speed is that much higher (and the bomber will always be a bigger, slower target than the fighter). It also allows targeting of the pilot and engines directly, which are pretty key to a bombers success.

Probably not a good idea if the bomber has 20 .50cal strapped to the front, but then it's either risk that or try to be cute with a stern chase or sweeping attacks where more of the defensive armament can fire at you...

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/17/2021 5:09:46 PM   
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Anvil and Hammer attacks by torpedo planes:

Torpedo Attacks

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Flying at a low altitude, a torpedo plane would approach a target. The preferred attack position was to be facing either the bow or stern of the ship, since any way the ship turned would leave it vulnerable to a hit. Ideal attack position was with one or more planes on either bow of target. A large vessel like a carrier cannot turn in a small circle, so whether she turn to port or starboard at least one hit might be expected. The ideal attack position was with one or more planes on either bow of target. A large vessel like a carrier cannot turn in a small circle, so whether she turn to port or starboard at least one hit might be expected. Having torpedo planes approach a ship from both sides of the bow was known as the Anvil Attack (smashing the target on the Anvil), but the coordination of timing required was difficult to achieve.

When the torpedo plane was within 1,000 yards or less of the target, the torpedo was released. A 45-knot torpedo launched 1000 yards away takes 40 seconds to reach target. In 40 seconds a ship traveling at 30 knots moves 2,000 feet.


http://www.daveswarbirds.com/navalwar/torpedo.htm


I'm aware of this but in the game it doesn't matter which target is attacked, a 10kn freighter or a 28kn carrier. In the end you get roughly 40% of the torps being auto misses due to the attack angle. Makes sense for an attack on bigger warships but not so much against slow moving freighters. On the other hand the game achieves at least twice as many hits of all kind (with at best halve the damage and even less in Babes) so it probably doesn't care.

But then, just use dive instead of torpedo bombers.

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/20/2021 4:16:29 PM   
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kusaie Island at 125,118

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 41

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 3
P-51B Mustang x 8
F4U-1A Corsair x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 3 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed


another day, another strike on my amphibious shipping at Kusai that is unloading supplies at snails pace... the Franks having the dive, the enemy high quality fighters are torn to pieces and this time no bomber is attacked head on... result? Massacre...


CAP engaged:
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers








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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/20/2021 8:20:43 PM   
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kusaie Island at 125,118

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 41

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 3
P-51B Mustang x 8
F4U-1A Corsair x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 3 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed


another day, another strike on my amphibious shipping at Kusai that is unloading supplies at snails pace... the Franks having the dive, the enemy high quality fighters are torn to pieces and this time no bomber is attacked head on... result? Massacre...


CAP engaged:
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers









They finally listed to someone about not attacking those bombers head on.

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/21/2021 12:18:27 PM   
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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/22/2021 1:40:20 PM   
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Sub attack near Rabaul at 106,127

Japanese Ships
PB Odatsuki Maru

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

SS Albacore launches 4 torpedoes
PB Odatsuki Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Odatsuki Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Odatsuki Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Odatsuki Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Odatsuki Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Kusaie Island at 124,117

Japanese Ships
xAK Yulin Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Trepang

SS Trepang attacking on the surface


I've saved quite a lot of ships from being sunk by getting them patched up at small islands but am totally unlucky getting them back to a bigger port months later as 90% end up being sunk right after leaving port due to the parked subs there which seem to be doing bullet prove blockades...



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129




Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 75

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


air combat has shifted towards New Guinea where we are pushing a small convoy into Buna... thought two Frank units would be easily enough to scare the enemy but guess what, we lose several Franks to the frontal armament of the Mitchells again today...


CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (9 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
34 planes vectored on to bombers
24th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (10 airborne, 28 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
26 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 68

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
PB Katsuragisan Maru
PB Chokai Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

not only do we lose halve a dozen fighters they are also unable to keep the bombers from sinking one of the escorts...



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (9 airborne, 26 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
21 planes vectored on to bombers
24th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (9 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
18 planes vectored on to bombers



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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/22/2021 1:41:52 PM   
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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/23/2021 2:55:42 PM   
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Afternoon Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32




Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 43
Ki-84r Frank x 132

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed


first appearance of the P-51D in India IIRC and they come in on the usual stratosweep which is doing them very good as long as they have the dive... only thing saving our kill ratio is numbers, the Mustangs didn't score A SINGLE kill in this engagement as soon as they ran out of their dive... in return our fighters down more than they lose... dive, fixed...


Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 29 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 31276.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 42
Ki-84r Frank x 125

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed


next round, perfectly mirroring the first one, the Mustangs come in at a height our fighters can't even reach, they get the dive for something like a dozen times, downing roughly the same number of our fighters for no own loss... 10+:0 kill/death during the dive? dive, it's been fixed...

the dive is over and we down the at least halve a dozen Mustangs...


CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 36910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 39000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 40
Ki-84r Frank x 118

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed


and for a third time and this time the Mustangs enjoy like a never ending dive phase... see the numbers? can't be the dive, must be another reason... but hey, everytime people are searching for reasons I see the DIVE on either side, every time... how comes you always have to search for reasons? Not even numbers were helping here, when the Mustangs finally ran out of dives there were only a handful of them left over the target so not many left to be shot at when their dive ended... it's been fixed, trust me, it's been fixed for sure...


CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 38910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 37910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 5 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes



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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/23/2021 3:01:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		there is no need to defend Hyderabad's airspace in the end and we can as well abandon the airfield if this is going to be an attritional war but so far we haven't seen a lot of airstrikes in India as we most of the time came up ahead... we get a 1:1 more or less today with unbeatable Mustangs during the dive and our fighters being ahead when the dive ended but the most important fact is we "only" lost 15 pilots (but these were really good pilots)... I don't care much about airframes, all that counts are pilots while all that counts for the enemy are his airframes and as long as we lose fewer pilots than the enemy loses his top notch fighters we're good and I would even go into an attritional war for some time if the enemy wants to...




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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/24/2021 8:53:43 AM   
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Afternoon Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 40
Ki-84r Frank x 118

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed


and for a third time and this time the Mustangs enjoy like a never ending dive phase... see the numbers? can't be the dive, must be another reason... but hey, everytime people are searching for reasons I see the DIVE on either side, every time... how comes you always have to search for reasons? Not even numbers were helping here, when the Mustangs finally ran out of dives there were only a handful of them left over the target so not many left to be shot at when their dive ended... it's been fixed, trust me, it's been fixed for sure...


CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 38910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 37910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 5 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes


You were close, but not quite...

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/24/2021 11:07:29 AM   
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Afternoon Air attack on 61st Division, at 35,40 (Madras)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Beaufort VIII x 10
F4U-1D Corsair x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufort VIII bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb


Last day of the year and we look forward to fend off any Allied offensives in the coming year which will surely be a turning point in this war. After the succesful ground campaigns in India and as succesful naval engagements in the Pacific the Western Allied won't be as much of a threat as the Russians when they activate in mid 45. At that point everything will go down the drain as I don't have much hope to see my outdated ground units being able to stop the highly experienced Russian juggernaut.

We will have an edge over the Russians in the air but we can't stop them on the ground. Which brings me to air R&D, our engineers report both the Shinden and Ki-94-II being ready for mass production. The Shinden is a pure defensive fighter, but the Ki-94-II can also be used in an offensive role if needed. I'm not sure how it will perform in direct comparison to the Frank -r though so we will also keep mass producing the Frank. The IJNAF will rely on the George of which we have over 2000 in the pools.






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ORIGINAL: castor troy

I see Admiral unescorted carrier task force still coming back, pity 'm still not nearly as much interested in him as it seems the other way around. Though I'm still wondering if he has yet managed not to be defeated in mid 42. Ohh so much knowledge and so much fail. Only google search boy missing for the party.






It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.

You, it seems, are neither.


For the benefit of others that are more inclined to learn, the problem castor is suffering with his CAP is not that strato-sweeps are broken. Instead, it's several factors that are combining to generate impressive Allied kill ratios.

Some of those factors, in no particular order are:

1. the stats difference between the Mustang and IJ airframes.
2. The lack of effective radar at Hyderabad resulting in poor advanced warning of Allied sweeps.
3. IJ CAP positioning. IJ CAP seems to be stacked at altitude bands of 3k, 5k 15k and 20k. Of those four, only aircraft in the lowest two are able to get into position at reasonable time, and are able to mutually support each other.

The solution to this problem is to concede the dive advantage to the Allies and focus on creating an environment at low altitude that is more amenable to the IJ.

Stacking CAP at 1-5k would be a better solution. Then, there is the chance that the Allied sweep doesn't find the IJ fighters. If they do, then the dive advantage will see IJ losses, but at such low altitude it then becomes much easier for the IJ defenders to get in to advantageous positions for air-to-air combat.

Or you could just think "tHe gAmE iS BrOkeN" or "fIx BuG".

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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/24/2021 2:51:45 PM   
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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/24/2021 3:09:31 PM   
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Sub attack near Rabaul at 106,124




Japanese Ships
xAK Daigen Maru, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Yoneyama Maru
E No.47
E No.37

Allied Ships
SS Thresher, hits 17, heavy damage


Thresher has been spotted for days and without moving it never got rid of a high DL but the sub was sitting at the entrance of Rabaul so we had to move through the hex... wasn't afraid much with more escorts than troop carrying freighters and the sub being spotted daily and most often attacked... was wrong, the sub hits a freighter (lol! 16 flt dam) and takes two hits and over a dozen near misses in return...


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

SS Thresher launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Daigen Maru
E No.47 fails to find sub and abandons search
E No.37 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.37 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.37 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 125,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 88

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed


encouraged by the sweeps in India the Allied fly sweeps out of Kwajalein against Kusai where I still have two Frank sentais that are covering convoys going in and out... Mundy as well as so many other players hasn't heard that the dive was fixed so he keeps his fighter keep attacking with a maximum altitude advantage... having the dive, they outright kill 9 Franks for NO loss... hmmm, wasn't the dive, was woodooo... the dive for the Mustangs ended, they kill at least four more Franks but also lose at least the same number of their own... 9:0 with the dive, at best 1:1 without it...

it has been fixed and it has no effect in the air routine...


CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 125,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 67

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


the enemy has also set his Thunderbolt squads to sweep and the funny so called air "routine" decided this time that the lost fragments of each squadron, that usually go in at the end, come in first... 2 dives for the Thuds, 1 kill and 1 damaged Frank, dive ended, another Frank damaged and a Thunderbolt shot down...


CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (12 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 39910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 40910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 125,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 58

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses


amazing, 5 Thuds, 4 dives, 3 Franks downed... engagement was over before they ran out of dives...


CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 36910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
22 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 40910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 125,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


for what reason ever this sweep only got 3 dives, resulting in 2 Franks downed with another 2 during the engagement without a dive for either side... also 2 Thuds downed without the dive...


CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 36910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 14 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 36910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Kusaie Island , at 125,118

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 37

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


what the previous sweep didn't enjoy all went into this one... hmm... must be overly surprising once more... 18 Thuds and I have counted 16 dives for them during which they instanty took down 13 Franks for NO loss... the dive ended at some point when only a handful P-47 were still over the target and while they shot down another Frank they also lost two and had three more damaged... with the dive due to the strato sweep = 13:0 kill rate, the dive ends and it's a 1:2...

surely, the dive AGAIN had no effect here... it must be something else... the dive is always there when we get out of whack kill rates and if the dive isn't there we get kill rates from 1-4:1... but hey, when the dive is always there you can still search for the hundred things you think that are the reason because you know, the dive was fixed and it can't be the reason...


CAP engaged:
87th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 37910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
104th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes



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RE: AAR 1944 - 5/24/2021 3:25:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		so lets see, while the concentrated knowledge claims the dive was fixed and has only nuissance effects the dumb noob players that watch the replay keep taking notes and surprise, surprise, the notes come up with numbers that are all but confirming the nuissance effects of the fixed dives...

damaged aircraft crashing on the way back to the airfield or writeoffs aside we counted all outright kills that resulted from a dive with a fighter firing from behind (usual outcome from a dive) at an enemy fighter... clap your hands, the Allied fighters kill no less than 28 Franks for NO LOSS! I'm repeating this, they kill 28 Franks for NO LOSS! For the slower ones, that's 28:0 kill rate. If you come up with the usual comments about exp, skill or the other blah blah, go back in this AAR and see these same Franks killing dozens and dozens enemy fighters for literally no loss when they had the dive which is just as borked. It's not related to either side, it's totally flawed.

Ok the dive was fixed and due to the hundred other reasons for this result, let's look at the outcome when the dive ended. And I guess the hundred reasons besides the dive are still valid then? Would mean they also get 28:0 or the like without the dive beucase it's not the all dominating variable?

TATTTAAAAAAA!

WITHOUT THE DIVE, during these same engagements it's a 9:7 in outright kills favouring the Franks! Again, this is without damaged aircraft crashing or being write offs. With the dive the enemy gets 28 outright kills for NO OWN LOSS and when the dive ended the enemy suffers 9 fighters shot down for 7 kills. Must be voodoo! Same aircraft, same pilots, same weather, same every sh*t because we are talking about the very same engagements. And the outcome? 28:0 with the dive, 7:9 without the dive in outright air to air kills.

Funny, it has been fixed. It really has been fixed. Of course another reason could be I'm just faking these results, I'm faking the screenshots, the combat reports, heck I guess you caught me even faking the game. The real result was looking totally different, perfectly fine and the dive is only a pet peeve of mine that has no effect at all instead of being able to put everything completeyl upside down.




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