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Fast Route Bug - 6/5/2021 3:12:47 AM   
DaShox

 

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Status: offline 		Just had a Bermuda triangle stuff.

So I assume there is limit on the number of stacks or units that can use the Fast Route? Screen shot shows what came through.

What didn't come through was at least 1 stack of 6 carriers (but I think it was more), plus BB heavy TF, a sub group of 5 and some marine units didn't make it.

My suspicion is the first units (the important that went in did not come out and where somehow replaced by later units (less important units).






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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/5/2021 3:32:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you do this on purpose to test the loops?
Or this is how you play?

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 2:21:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sad to say it how I play because I sucked so bad that I lost all my CV's early on because I thought I could fight a coral sea type battle (6 vs 4, I lost all 4 with no damage to the other side). So I was left biding my time as the Japanese rolled over the map until I got enough carriers (and supply) to try take back Australia. It is not going well to say the least.

That is my sad story for the day.

Now, an update to the situation - I believe what may have happened is these units were delayed a turn (to be sunk on arrival).

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 1:40:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well the loops are removed in the next patch.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 1:41:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good. Think that is the best solution since they weren't needed like in Europe and would always create odd situations.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 1:51:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa

Well the loops are removed in the next patch.



Spongebob is sad, but the world is now a better place.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 3:42:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think they are removed. The person in charge wasn't there when I originally uploaded them so I updated them ASAP. So it might or might not have made it in the patch.

Either way I will start a beta patch update after this.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/7/2021 3:43:55 PM   
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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/21/2021 1:26:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why remove them? As they more accurately depict the sailing time from Australia to Pearl for example. It takes far too long vs actual without them. it should not take a month to sail from the Coral Sea to Pearl.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/21/2021 10:46:37 PM   
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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/22/2021 2:46:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you are also over estimating the speed of convoys. Yes if they went in a straight line, which is 8000 miles, they could make it in the equivalent two turns but they didn't travel that way. A good part of the distance would be traveled in zigzag. If carriers were in the convoy they would have to maintain air coverage. If older BB's were in it they would be slower still. And, if they included troop ships and oilers, even slower. The initial cargo ships had speeds as low as 8 knots. These in a straight line (8000 miles) would take over 40 days to make the trip. Going further south to avoid Japanese air patrols and zigzagging to avoid subs would probably jump that number to 60 days. And if they had to stop at some of the islands to refuel, even longer.

So the minimum time could easily be the equivalent of 3 turns and one could justify saying that since this involves planning, preparation, leaving port, arriving at a port, loading, unloading the total time for starting at say Los Angels and finishing in Sydney would be in on the order of 5 to 8 turns depending on type of ships.

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/23/2021 4:33:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		A few ruin things for the rest of us. I am glad though you are on top of it and making changes. Many a good game was ruined by exploits and they never kept up with the rules to prevent them. So kudos!

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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/23/2021 4:39:38 AM   
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RE: Fast Route Bug - 6/23/2021 1:51:38 PM   
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