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Multi-profile strategies - 6/8/2021 11:10:42 AM

Zanotirn

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Since at least low level regime feats are easy to keep, but take some time to get, it often makes sense to deliberately get low-level feats from other profiles before focusing on your intended primary one, unless you plan to go particularly deep in it . I wanted to check what strategies people are going for in this regard.

E.g. for me rather than just go for meritocracy, I can grab engaged politicians from democracy first, before switching to merito - 40% political bonus is very nice and recruit civilian card is a very good source of governors and occasionally directors - only takes a dozen turns or so to get and you'd be hard-pressed to lose it afterwards. Often meritocracy is a pain to raise at the start since your governor rolls are almost guaranteed to fail, and you don't need more unrest/danger when conquering nearby minors - though you do need half-decent money situation for it to work.

Conversely, when going for demo in a world with large population, starting with meritocracy and grabbing Accomplished Envoys first can make sense - since plea of friendship card it unlocks greatly simplifies your diplomacy - and since meritocracy is harder to raise, starting with +15 makes it very easy to grab one perk than switch.

Occasionally starting into fist for volunteerism and potentially war lust can make sense - a few militia cards make your militia relevant for significantly longer. It does delay getting the tech bonus, but at the start (particularly T3 start) you tend to focus on discovery first anyway, and with minors around you're prone to getting fist points that make mind profile occasionally tricky to maintain anyway.

Grabbing bureaucracy first when going for commerce is rather straightforward - the BP bonus is good, medical teams are nice as well and government is harder to raise than commerce. Not sure if it makes sense to get state companies - you are likely to lose it eventually, but industry bonus is more important at the start, before you get your industries upgraded.

The reverse is less straightforward - grabbing free market for the private economy bonus before switching to government can make sense, but since it's harder to switch from commerce to government (particularly with corporation around), it would delay some nice government cards. There can also be a case for getting to Wealthy Friends, spreading some estates and commercial gifts around, and then switching to government later on without keeping anything besides free market. Some government bonuses like worker happiness tend to be a bigger issue later on, however switching from advanced commerce to government can be nigh-impossible with entrenched corporation.

Alternatively grabbing Discipline from enforcement for the tax bonus can make sense before switching to either of the other two.

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RE: Multi-profile strategies - 6/8/2021 1:20:21 PM

zgrssd

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quote:

Since at least low level regime feats are easy to keep, but take some time to get, it often makes sense to deliberately get low-level feats from other profiles before focusing on your intended primary one, unless you plan to go particularly deep in it . I wanted to check what strategies people are going for in this regard.

For me that would really just delay getting the primary regime feats.
That time I have the secondary Profile high enough to unlock the roll + rolling it, is time I do not have my primary profile high enough to unlock the roll and rolling it.
And it is the early regime feats that make any profile pick even viable.

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RE: Multi-profile strategies - 6/8/2021 1:23:16 PM

BlueTemplar

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Yeah (to Zanotirn) :
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=5020895

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ORIGINAL: BlueTemplar
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Or, (though it's a bit late now), maybe it's that trying to get 81-90% in a single Profile and 6-0-0 Regime Feats is the wrong way to go about it when playing a Democracy/Parliament� (ironically, this includes Democracy itself !).

So you instead have to aim at 51-59% in your "main" Profile and 41-49% in your "secondary" ones, resulting in 3-2-2 Regime Feats ?
This might be easier to pull off than expected, because it gets ever harder to increase Profiles over 50% (and decrease them under 50%).

You just have to be careful to get the Regime Feats in the right order, to go in the direction of Profile Suppression, not against it, and end up picking your "main" profile LAST.

[...]

Especially for Democracy into Meritocracy, as Civilians tend to have good Cha (and Int) Skills which you'll need for your Foreign Affairs (Accomplished Envoys Diplomacy rolls) and Interior (moar, better, happier Leaders !) Directors !
(And yeah, that +40% Political Bonus to play those stratagems, which stacks additively, rather than "square-rootely" with your Political Bonus Points from High Command asset in your Capital.)

And even more so that losing Regime Feats might be currently bugged ?
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=5021530

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I've had the first Autocracy Regime Feat : "Strength of the Will" for a very long time now, despite having 26% chance per turn (!!) of losing it.

< Message edited by BlueTemplar -- 6/8/2021 1:35:08 PM >

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