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Valor & Victory gives me the feeling of a tabletop wargame on PC!
The AI is convincing and the dice rolls make each game unique, with its share of joy and frustration unique to the genre.
Inspired by ASL's mechanics, V&V has a solid foundation and offers a fluid gameplay.
The French version is decent, the interface and the in-game help make it easy to understand, I quickly found a clear answer to the questions I had.

For me, it is the most accomplished game of the year in this category and price range.

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ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13

I was a beta tester, and from the start it gave me that original Squad Leader board game feel, more than any other computer game I've played, and I've played a lot, really since the beginning, since Pong. It is not overly complex, but the basics of fire and maneuver apply to the game, just like SL. The scenarios are small compared to many games, and they are short. You can play from either side and the AI does a good job. Depending on how fast you play, 30-60 minutes for a scenario would be my guess. There was great improvement in the AI during the beta period. Yobowargames was very responsive during beta testing and worked extremely hard on honing the AI. As with all such games, the AI plays better on defense, but it now can give you a challenge on offense. The AI can now, for example take Pegagus Bridge as the British in that scenario, something it could not do when I became a tester. If you want the elegant Squad Leader feeling without layers of complexity, you will like this game.

Edit. To address some criticisms:

1. Lack of a zoom. I've lobbied for the full board zoom from the start, along with other testers. I think it is coming.
2. Music and sound effects. There are varied opinions on the music and game sound effects. I don't like them, but then I play nearly all games with the sound off anyway.
3. Undo button. In this game I think an undo button gives the player an unfair advantage. I became a more careful player after getting bitten by the lack of an undo button, but I think it serves a good purpose not having one.
4. Cheating AI dice. I've also noted a complaint that the AI gets better dice rolls. I've played dozens of games. It evens out. The AI does not cheat on the dice as far as I can tell. I've lost when I thought I should have won and won when I thought I should have lost.
5. Fixed starting positions. I have no problem with that. You as the leader find yourself with a mission and troops on the ground, sometimes in contact, sometimes not. You have your mission and a time limit. If on the defensive, your setup is probably already near optimum. If on the offensive, your "setup" is the time it takes you to move your troops to their jumping off point. I often take 1-2 turns when on the offense just to set up my attack.

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ORIGINAL: midgard30

Only played few scenarios, but for me this is yet another half-baked port to PC game
1- No FoW
2- No sniper
3- No Mortar
4- No off-board artillery or air support
5- No indirect fire

Except for the fog of war, all of this is included in the BG. Apparently sniper and mortar units do exist, but are not in any scenario's OOB. Maybe it's available for custom scenarios. Not sure if mortar uses indirect fire.

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ORIGINAL: midgard30

Only played few scenarios, but for me this is yet another half-baked port to PC game
1- No FoW
2- No sniper
3- No Mortar
4- No off-board artillery or air support
5- No indirect fire

Except for the fog of war, all of this is included in the BG. Apparently sniper and mortar units do exist, but are not in any scenario's OOB. Maybe it's available for custom scenarios. Not sure if mortar uses indirect fire.

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ORIGINAL: midgard30

Only played few scenarios, but for me this is yet another half-baked port to PC game
1- No FoW
2- No sniper
3- No Mortar
4- No off-board artillery or air support
5- No indirect fire

Except for the fog of war, all of this is included in the BG. Apparently sniper and mortar units do exist, but are not in any scenario's OOB. Maybe it's available for custom scenarios. Not sure if mortar uses indirect fire.

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ORIGINAL: z1812
"Valor & Victory is a complete WWII wargaming system, covering infantry and armored combat, close assaults, armored overruns, fortifications, and much more."

If you advertise the above, but do not have the items available as Midgard30m lists, then it cannot be called a "complete wargame system". However I bought the game and think it has great potential, but I am disappointed that so many essential features were left out upon release. I will wait for the release of the additional features to continue playing the game.

I don't think there was any intention to mislead potential buyers. However the Marketing people could have provided a better explanation of what was available in the initial game. Explaining that additional features, would follow in updates.

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ORIGINAL: z1812

Re Fog of War. This is a very important element. It cannot be considered a complete wargaming system without it.

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ORIGINAL: eddieballgame

@MrsWargamer; I concur on how playable this game is.
I will add, the Scenario Creation system is also super easy.
In short...I like it a lot.
I do take umbrage with your...opinion that it is nonsense to suggest that a true map editor would be a good thing.
I, also concur that the price is right for what we are getting now.
To put it in the price range of Panzer Corps II, for example, seems a huge stretch to me...imho.
I would, however, gladly pay double/triple if it offered similar features per creation/modding as does PzC II.

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or me, Valor and Victory is a game that respects the current standards of the genre but to rise above the others,
it will have to add more such as the ability to name the units, essential units like the M10 and the MG42 , rare units
like the Goliath, mountain or navy units, rare defenses like booby traps and ditchs.
In short, as a passionate player, I want to be surprised!