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Tournament - 6/17/2021 12:45:17 AM

generalfdog

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Has there ever been and will there ever be a war plan tournament? Just curious they looks interesting.

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RE: Tournament - 6/17/2021 6:58:38 PM

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Is it really needed?

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RE: Tournament - 6/18/2021 2:56:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

Is it really needed?

Winner: Harrybanana

I am flattered that you think so, but I am not at all convinced this is true. If Magic Missile returns he is at least as good, and probably better, than me. I have yet to play Sveint who is also very good. I also suspect that there are great many excellent players who just are not that active in the Forum, but might play in a Tournament.

The problem with a conventional tournament is that the only game worth playing (for me anyway) is the 39 scenario and it takes several months to complete a game. So if you had 16 people in the Tournament playing in single knockout style it would take 4 rounds for a winner to be determined. This would take well over a year and maybe two. An alternative would be to divide the 16 players into four "conferences" of 4 players. The players in each conference would simultaneously play mirror games against the other players in their conference. So this would mean 6 games for each player going at one time. After all the games are played the 4 winners of each Conference would then play mirror games against the other winners in the same fashion. Although a lot more games are being played I think it would be quicker over all.

However it is organized I would be interested in a Tournament.

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RE: Tournament - 6/18/2021 8:50:56 AM

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A tournament is always an extra incentive to play, I would sign up.

I agree that the 1939 scenario is the best, you can plan everything from the beginning. But for a first tournament I think the most appropriate would be a short scenario.

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RE: Tournament - 6/18/2021 12:02:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

Is it really needed?

Winner: Harrybanana

OH NO! @#~*
I'm playing him at the moment and so far it's like this:

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RE: Tournament - 6/18/2021 1:44:02 PM

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Could be the 1940 scenario from start to fall of France. Both players play both sides in two successive games. At the end of each game one calculate the losses differential and the player with best total differential for both games wins. A bonus in points could be given to the player that forced Vichy faster. Something along those lines?

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RE: Tournament - 6/19/2021 12:05:17 PM

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Has the advantage of being short, but the bonus for capturing P'town earlier would have to be huge, otherwise the winning G strategy would just be going after french units all around the map while trying to avoid F surrendering.
If playing french, I would just run away and hope my opponent just got a quick surrender.

Perhaps a better approach would be the winner is the 1st to get F to surrender. If the date is a tie, then the player with fewer G casualties, or fewer total casualties from both games, wins.

Full disclosure: this is written from a neutral perspective because the competition does not appeal to me

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RE: Tournament - 6/19/2021 2:29:10 PM

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This could also work very well indeed. It also removes the need to find a balance in term of bonus for the 1st to make France fall to.

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RE: Tournament - 6/19/2021 2:36:45 PM

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Or maybe a mix of both : the 1st to make France been Vichy. But for each 5 loses differential (or whatever number), the date goes up or down (depending if you have less or more) by a day for the calculation? Always calculated on the turn of German application of Vichy. Tiebreaks could be in favor of the player that has taken more Morale points?

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RE: Tournament - 6/19/2021 5:16:31 PM

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The more complicated the system, the more it will be gamed. Keep it as simple as possible!

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