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Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/16/2021 7:30:02 PM   
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OK here is the next in the Pacific Fury series:

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You are the commander of the USS Constellation Carrier Battle Group (CVBG). Due to the increased tensions with the Soviets the Pacific Fleet’s exercise schedule has been ramped up, and your CVBG has been participating in a series of exercise over the past six weeks. Departing San Diego, a couple days after Christmas you deployed to the Philippians in early January for a multi-carrier exercise with USS Independence and USS Abraham Lincoln. Following that, in company with the Lincoln you sailed to Australia conducting ASW and strike exercises along the way. Your battle group has now returned to the Philippines for Defensive Counter Air (DCA) training with the Philippine Air Force and about half your Carrier Air Wing (CAW) are at NAS Cubi Point and acting as the aggressors.

Those plans changed about 30 minutes ago with a FLASH message from 3rd FLEET HQ in San Diego. You are now tasked to collect your battlegroup together and take Connie and her chicks north to reinforce the Independence around Japan. Unfortunately, a series of seemingly disconnected events have created a situation which you are not at all comfortable with.

It is time to get things under control and get back on the front foot.

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I look forward to your comments and critiques. Enjoy

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/16/2021 10:14:48 PM   
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Quick question: Had you intended there to be any torpedo reloads for the P-3s at Cubi Pt?

(And Cam Ranh Bay's on the map. That can't be good...)

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/16/2021 10:21:37 PM   
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Sweet! I've got it running now!

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/17/2021 1:45:43 AM   
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quote:

Quick question: Had you intended there to be any torpedo reloads for the P-3s at Cubi Pt?


No, they are visiting from Guam. An argument could be made however that Cubi is a long standing NAS but I don't think you will need them.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/17/2021 2:42:53 AM   
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I've completed my first attempt. What a desperate situation you put us in!

I couldn't really do much to save the half of the CAW that was at Cubi Point, though I was able to get two F-14s transferred to the Connie. Pretty much all of my Aircraft losses were from the surprise Guerilla/Terrorist/Cruise Missile strikes on the land bases in the Phillipines.

The big missile attacks against the Carrier group were mostly defeated, save for one missile that struck the Connie, causing 36.9% damage. There was flooding initially, but thankfully the damage control parties got that under control. No aircaft were lost from that hit, but Flight ops were reduced to the point that several fighters had to divert to land bases in the Philippines. IN retaliation I found and sank a Juliett and a Victor III. I also had no issue blasting the AGI and Trailing Kanin DDG at the outset of hostilities.

I got the UNREP group to the rally point unscathed, which is one of the main reasons for my final score of 201 Average.

With a massively reduced air group, and limited flight ops equipment, I can't hope to launch any sort of Counterstrike from the Connie, let alone a CAP.

However, I am able to strike back with Orions and B-52s from Guam, as well as the USS City of Corpus Christi.

Most of my land based Harpoon Salvos (including the B-52s) fail to score any hits, despite getting very close to the Minsk.

However, I decide to gamble with the Corpus Christi, and charge into from the Soviet CVBG's baffles, as they were now disengaging to the North.

I got close enough for three full spreads of torpedoes launched as snapshots (i.e. Bearing Only at surface depths). At least 4 hit and sink the Minsk. The rest run out of fuel and self destruct.

The Sub does not survive its escape, being torpedoed by an ASW Helo.

Later, my final Harpoon strike from an Orion is able to damage on of the destroyers in the group.


That's about the extent of what happened before time ran out. The Connie's group didn't make it to the rally point due to lack of remaining time, but she definitely would have made it.


SIDE: US
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LOSSES:
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1x C-141B Starlifter
2x EA-6B Prowler ICAP II Blk 82
1x EP-3E Aries I
1x ES-3A Shadow
9x F/A-18D Hornet
2x F-14A Tomcat
3x F-5A Freedom Fighter
4x F-5E Tiger II [DACT]
2x KC-135R Stratotanker
1x P-3C Orion Update II
2x P-3C Orion Update II.5
2x S-3B Viking
6x SF.260W
4x SH-3G Sea King
1x SSN 700 Dallas [Los Angeles Class, Flight I]


EXPENDITURES:
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2x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
3x RGM-84C Harpoon IB
10x AIM-54C Phoenix
51x RIM-67C SM-2ER Blk II
29x AIM-7M Sparrow III
19x AIM-9M Sidewinder
146x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds]
71x 20mm Single Burst [20 rnds]
72x RIM-66L-1 SM-2MR Blk III
7x 20mm M39 x 2 Burst [80 rnds]
1x RUM-139A VLA [Mk46 Mod 5]
284x HYDRA 70mm Rocket
3x Mk50 Barracuda Mod 0 ALWT
2x AN/SSQ-62B DICASS
1x 20mm M197 Burst x 2 [50 rnds]
2x 7.62mm M60C x 4 Burst [100 rnds]
2x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
4x RIM-7M Sea Sparrow
48x RIM-7P Sea Sparrow
4x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 Burst [200 rnds]
2x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1 Burst [300 rnds]
8x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
22x RIM-66M-1 SM-2MR Blk III
2x AIM-9N Sidewinder
7x 127mm/54 HE-CVT [HiFrag]
8x 40mm/60 Single Bofors Burst [2 rnds]
44x AGM-84D Harpoon IC
4x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
4x UGM-84D Harpoon IC
12x Mk48 Mod 5 ADCAP
6x ADC Mk2 Mod 0 Torpedo Decoy



SIDE: USSR
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LOSSES:
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1x Ka-25BSh Hormone A
7x Ka-27PL Helix A
2x Ka-27PS Helix D
1x Ka-29RLD Helix
4x Ka-29TB Helix B
1x Tu-142MK Bear F Mod 3
12x Yak-141 Freestyle
8x Yak-38M Forger A
1x BPK Kanin [Pr.57A Gnevny]
1x SSV Mirnyy [Pr.393A]
1x TAKR Minsk [Pr.1143 Krechyet]
1x PLA-671RTM Victor III [Shchuka]
1x PLRK-651 Juliett


EXPENDITURES:
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280x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
32x SS-N-12 Sandbox Mod 1 [P-500 Bazalt]
44x SS-N-19 Shipwreck [P-700 Granit]
4x SS-N-3a Shaddock [P-6, ASM]
32x SS-N-21b Sampson
1x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
18x 57mm/81 ZIF-75 Quad DP Burst [6 rnds]
14x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin Burst [50 rnds]
4x Generic Acoustic Decoy
2x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
27x AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR TSARH]
10x SS-N-22M Sunburn [P-270 Moskit]
2x Generic Acoustic Decoy
12x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
10x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
94x SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM]
46x SA-N-4b Gecko [9M33M3]
6x AK-630 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
11x SA-N-7 Gadfly [9M38]
3x SS-N-15 Starfish [RPK-6M Vodopad, UMGT-1 Torpedo]
2x SS-N-14 Silex [85RU, Dual-Role, UMGT-1 Torpedo + 185kg Unitary]
14x AK-130 130mm/54 Twin Frag Burst [2 rnds]
4x AK-630M 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
24x PK-10 Chaff [SR-50]
4x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
1x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]



SIDE: Commercial
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LOSSES:
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1x Commercial Tanker - Large Range 2 [150,000t DWT]


EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: Civil
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LOSSES:
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3x 120mm Mortar [Cargo]
1x Civilian Dhow [22m]
1x Civilian Junk [35m, Armed]
1x Commercial Fishing Boat [35m]


EXPENDITURES:
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5x Mine P-3 [Floating, Contact Fuze, Passive Acoustic]
69x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds]
5x Milan 2
69x 81mm HE Mortar
192x 120mm Mortar HE



SIDE: Civil.
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LOSSES:
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1x Marker (Geographic/Aimpoint)
1x Civilian Junk [35m]
1x False Contact (Large)


EXPENDITURES:
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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/17/2021 9:53:30 AM   
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So it was a busy day then

Thanks for the test.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 5:55:09 PM   
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heh heh heh

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 6:21:01 PM   
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heh heh heh


Any nails left?

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 8:32:07 PM   
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I have just lost the USS Gridley. A lucky missile got through, so I am in -112 points Disaster. How can I turn this into positive? The carrier is still alive and hungry for revenge. I want to write a full AAR, but have to survive this scenario first...

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 8:35:43 PM   
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SITUATION

As alarming indications of tension rise across the globe, my forces in the Philippines find themselves somewhat dispersed and in disarray. My American carrier group, centered on the USS Constellation, is normally a powerful concentrated fighting force, but at the moment it's dispersed, weakened, and running low on fuel. The Connie is currently escorted only by a Tico, a Leahy, and a Spruance. Our second Tico is hurrying to catch up from the east, our Perry is down south engaged in rescue activity, and roughly half our fighting aircraft are stuck ashore at Cubi Point on Subic Bay, temporarily grounded by fuel issues. I also have a pair of SSNs in the region, which are always welcome, although nobody ever knows what they're really up to.

Intel informs us that the Soviets have assembled a powerful surface group north-east of us, based around a core of a Kirov, a Kiev, and a Slava, plus numerous destroyer escorts. They far outperform us in terms of anti-shipping punch. Normally we would try to avoid getting this close to them, but they are already within range, according to our calculations, and the presence of a tattletale destroyer nearby and a Bear reconaissance aircraft overhead mean they already know exactly where we are. Plus there are at least three Soviet subs in the region, probably more. All in all, not a pleasant situation to be in!

We've got another Spruance escorting a pair of oilers up the west coast of the Philippines, and we've been directed to meet up with them north of Luzon, and refuel and resupply as soon as we can. They're presumably safe from the heavy surface group, but the possibility of submarines in their path is very real. There's also the consideration of interference from the direction of Vietnam. The extensive Russian facilities at Cam Ranh Bay are about 660 miles away to the west, across the South China Sea. That's a bit of a long haul, but not impossible for bombers, so we can't entirely ignore the threat.


ORDERS

Ideally, I could just speed up and run west with the carrier, but that would leave my lone Tico, the Vincennes, all alone with the enemy group only a couple hundred miles away, and I'm reluctant to do that. A look at the charts tells me that I should just barely have enough time to form up into a single group and still make it to the rendezvous site. Therefore, the Connie is ordered to turn back east and rush towards the Vincennes, who will hurry to meet them as soon as it can. Further south, the Perry is ordered to wrap up rescue operations, and head NW to meet the carrier in the rendezvous zone. The Miguel Malvar will make a final rescue sweep when it arrives in the morning.

On the west coast, the replenishment group is ordered to head north along the coast, but only at creep speed at first, until P-3 patrols have a chance to proof the route ahead of them. A few of my carrier aircraft ashore at Cubi Point are already ready, but I'm hesitant to leave the replenishment group without any air cover (other than Filippino F-5s). Therefore, the first set of F-14s are ordered to set up a CAP offshore, until MPA can search the South China Sea and confirm there aren't any Soviet surprises loitering in the area. The coast-guard craft in the area is also ordered to head for harbour. If something does go wrong, it's better for them to be sheltered, rather than caught out at sea.

It'll take about a day for our forces to meet up and refuel. Hopefully the world won't collapse before then.


BRIEF MOMENT OF PEACE

AEW, ELINT, and MPA start heading out, and it doesn't take long before the detections start coming in. For the moment it doesn't look like there's anything off the west coast, which is a relief, although Subic Bay is full of assorted commercial traffic. The same can't be said about the Pacific, where we quickly find the Kanin shadowing us to the south while watching us with her helicopter, plus a pair of snooper ships further out, one west of us, and one NNE. The Soviet carrier group is on full display too, or, rather, its aircraft are. Our ES-3 rapidly reports contacts from their AEW and surface search helicopters, plus air search radars on their new Yak-141s. The Constellation group skirts around the Kanin, staying out of its gun range, and starts closing on the approaching Vincennes.

Things start going sour rapidly. Flash messages tell us the situation in Europe is on the point of war, and then there's a report that a suicide truck bomb has destroyed a number of Philippine attack aircraft at Basa. Orders go out to launch any of our aircraft as soon as they become ready, just to get them out of the reach of potential sabotage, and the Philippine F-5s at Cubi are put into the air.

While the big powers move, the little coast guard cutter Antonio Luna is headed into port to hide from the coming storm. Little do they know, that this is where the storm is about to begin.


WAR IN THE PHILIPPINES

"Sir, gunfire ahead!" yells the startled lookout, and the crew gapes at the sight of rockets and guns being fired at the nearby airbase from a civilian ship in the harbour. "Flank speed" blurts the captain, and the little ship surges forward, and starts firing as quickly as she can at the hostile vessels. The crew cheers as the closest enemy bursts into flames under a storm of autocannon fire, and move on to the next target. As fast as they can fire, they aren't fast enough, and flames rise from a burning hangar on shore. The captain can also see what looks like mortar fire walking across the base, and more fires spread amongst the parked aircraft.

Personnel on the base start hollering for help, radioing for any sort of air support to stem the indirect fire, which seems to come from the hills to the north. It's night, and the F-5s can barely make out anything on the ground, but they do their best to strafe in the vicinity of the brief mortar muzzle flashes until the mortar fire ends. Who knows whether they hit anything or not, but at least the enemy seem to have been driven away for the moment.

The pilots are feeling pleased with this, until there's a radio report of explosions at another airbase up north. Planes there were being held on the ground, in the hope that the attacks were only concentrated around Subic, but a burning F-5 soon points out that error, and the remainder are launched as quickly as possible. If they don't use their weapons they will land at alternate airfields, rather than back at home base, to try and disperse the assets until the situation stabilizes.

Back in harbour, a fishing boat trying to flee the chaos vanishes in a violent explosion, and the warning call goes out that the enemy has mined the harbour! The Antonio Luna is trapped in the kettle now. The crew stare wide-eyed over their gunsights, wondering which of the seemingly innocuous civilian vessels will try and betray them next.


WAR AT SEA - HEAVY ASMs INBOUND

For the carrier group, the first indication of hostilities is the urgent alert from the E-2. "Vampires inbound! SSGN!" There's an Oscar out there somewhere to the NNW, and he's fired a salvo directly at the carrier group. Moments later there are more missile warnings: a huge salvo from their ships at the lone Vincennes, a second salvo from them at our carrier, and even some shots from what must be a distant Juliett. Our response is swift, and two Harpoons are fired at the Kanin, sinking it a few minutes later, while a SAM takes down its helicopter. Every available plane is being shot off the carrier, and helicopters scramble from the escorts to get away from the targeted ships.

The carrier planes swoop down into the missile streams, and manage to do good work, thinning the herd of supersonic sea-skimmers enough that the cruisers Lake Erie and the Gridley can deal with the rest, with a little last-minute help from the Spruance. The crew of the lone Vincennes have no such help, and they can only stare grimly at their scopes as the missiles bore in. Fortunately, these are high-altitude Sandboxes, not the sea-skimming Shipwrecks from the Oscar or the Kirov, and they can engage at maximum range. The SAMs hit missile after missile, but there are so many that they keep getting closer and closer, and the last one is only 1 mile out when it explodes. There's a jubilant yell throughout the CIC. Then the Russians fire again.

A second salvo comes hurtling in from the surface group and the distant Oscar, and hearts sink. SAM inventories are low now. Can they really do this twice? Fortunately, there aren't as many missiles in this salvo, and with help from the last few fighters they manage to destroy the incoming weapons. The Vincennes is very low on SAMs now, but the cruisers of the carrier group are in reasonably good condition. Unless there's a major new threat (bombers from Cam Ranh Bay?) I think we are probably secure for the moment.

With the missile threat down, my carrier group continues to close on the Vincennes, hoping to form a single group soon.


INCOMING AT SUBIC

Over at Subic Bay, my F-14s which were scrambled from Cubi Point are orbiting offshore near my replenishment group when they start picking up a dispersed group of small sea-skimming subsonic contacts headed towards us. After a moment's puzzlement (Is an SSGN engaging my replenishment group? How the heck did they spot us?) I realize these must be cruise missiles, which implies there's either bombers out there, or possibly a Yankee Notch. MPA radar patrols still show no surface ships out there, so we know the missiles didn't come from a nearby ship. The F-14s kill a number of the missiles with guns, and F-5s get the rest.

The F-14s are sent to top up at the tanker, and then all four of them form up in a wide wall and head west, using their powerful radars to look for any sign of bombers. They don't see any, but they do find another wave of incoming missiles, and once again the F-5s knock them down. The P-3, which was patrolling ahead of the replenishment group, is sent west to hunt for a sub, but doesn't really have a good place to start, until the next wave of missiles is spotted radiating out from a central launch point. Then the hunt is on! The P-3 hurries in and quickly identifies and sinks a Yankee Notch near the predicted launch point, while the F-5s continue to pick off the last of the cruise missiles before they reach the shore.

Some of the F-5s also manage to get an air-to-air kill. That Bear which overflew our carrier earlier has escaped, since all my fighters were busy shooting incoming ASMs, so some of the F-5s are asked to lend a hand, and they catch it and shoot it down half an hour later.


HUNTING OSCAR, FINDING JULIETT

I'd also like to find that Oscar, although the location where I spotted it missiles is so far away that the odds of finding it there are poor. Nonetheless, a pair of S-3s are sent out to look for it. As the first one arrives on station, and drops a couple of buoys, it suddenly gets a radar hit on a small distant target much further west. It looks very like a periscope or a snorkel, and its right where the Juliett's missiles were first spotted.

Actual Juliett, or potential Oscar? Which to choose? I'd really like to find the Oscar, but I can't ignore a known target, and the S-3 is given orders to head west. It duly finds and sinks the snorkelling Juliett, before returning to the Oscar hunt.

My uncertainty about the Oscar's position is enormous by now, and I'm not even sure if it's heading home for reloads, or advancing to engage with torpedoes. I split the difference. One S-3 lays a line of sonobuoys 40 miles to the north, and one lays a line 40 miles to the south. They then climb to high altitude and loiter overhead, waiting and listening in case the Oscar passes through. A P-3 is also tasked to the hunt, but it will be some time before it can get there, so the S-3s continue to wait.


HARASSING THE ENEMY

The enemy carrier group is retiring north now, which is annoying. Now that they've used their heavy ASMs, I'd consider closing with my cruisers and making a combined Harpoon attack along with aircraft. But they're opening the range, instead of obligingly closing in, and I don't have a hope of catching them and making the rendezvous. Reluctantly, I have to admit they're going to break contact with my ships, and my subs won't be able to catch them either.

Still, I do have aircraft, and once they've reloaded I send a fighter sweep to hassle the Yak-141s. I do reasonably well at this, although the enemy SAMs give them a safe bastion, and my fighters even manage to kill one of their precious AEW helicopters. In the confusion I lose track of one of their Forgers, which almost bags the loitering P-3 that's been monitoring the group. Fortunately the Forgers have short legs, and the P-3 manages to get away by the narrowest of margins, eventually returning to loiter at a more discrete distance.

Just as I am completely confident that the enemy ships are not a threat, one of them starts firing more anti-shipping missiles! But these head south, not towards us, and hit a contact I had assumed was some sort of Russian snooper. Mayday calls reveal that it is actually a commercial tanker, and it's too far away for me to help it in any way. The retiring Russians hammer it until it sinks.


SUB ACTIVITY

In revenge, orders are give for the San Francisco to come to periscope depth, and she is passed the coordinates of the actual Soviet AGI out to my west. A single Harpoon sinks this watcher, and the San Francisco resumes patrol.

Well, the Russians can play the sub game too. The sonar-man on the Ingersoll, the Spruance located a few miles ahead of my carrier, suddenly starts yelling about incoming torpedoes! As all my ships turn to run, two ASROCs go roaring down range, and a minute later there's a thump followed by breakup noises. My ships continue to flee the incoming torpedoes at flank speed, knowing that they're effectively blind now, and completely vulnerable if they've bumped into a wolf-pack. Fortunately, the torpedoes run out of fuel without hitting anybody, and the carrier group re-organizes itself and gets back on course.

Finally, as their sonobuoys are gradually expiring, the S-3 on the northern barrier line gets a signal from a passive buoy. Could it be? Yes! Oscar!! He's heading north, going home for reloads, and now he's mine. The S-3s swoop in and a series of torpedoes pummel the big sub until it sinks.


NEXT STEPS

As the Russians retire, staff are trying to plan an effective way to hit them before they're out of reach. Three B-52s loaded with Harpoons are ready now, but the Russian SAM defences are so heavy that they alone won't be enough to break in. A few P-3s will be able to join them an hour or so later, but that probably won't be enough either. If I want the full power of an all-forces carrier attack I'm going to have to wait even longer. And that delay will probably mean a less effective daylight attack. Small night attack, or big day attack? Hmmm...

In the meantime, my ships will continue to head for the rendezvous. F-14s, now basing at one of the small airfields, will continue to watch over the replenishment group as it heads north up the coast of Luzon. My Perry is sprinting and drifting up from the south-east, the SSN San Francisco is headed in more quietly from the east, and the carrier group is thundering along, sonars blaring. Only the SSN Corpus Christi is still moving towards the Soviets, although catching them's a faint hope unless they turn back for some reason.

Will we be able to bloody the nose of the wily Russians? Time will tell.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 8:43:10 PM   
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quote:

How can I turn this into positive?


You get a lot of points for getting the USNS ships and the Carrier to the Replenishment area.

You can also get big points for sinking the Soviet ships.

Good luck

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 9:19:55 PM   
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quote:

Will we be able to bloody the nose of the wily Russians? Time will tell.


Wow, you got the Oscar! Impressive, that Juliett was a deliberate distraction... bugger. The Yankee Notch as well, he's old and noisy but you only had to deal with 24 of his 32 missiles (takes about 15 min for them to reload)

Curious how you manage to strike back.

I think I may have omitted points for Sov subs - will need to fix that.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/18/2021 11:33:00 PM   
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I got lucky with the Oscar. The line of buoys that the S-3 laid down had a big clump of active buoys to one side, and those had already expired. If the Oscar had gone through the line a little more to the west he'd have gone through the gap completely undetected. Instead he happened to be on the east end, and went under the passive buoys, which were still working.



And the Juliett distraction definitely worked. You can see some buoys where my first S-3 had just arrived and started dropping on the missile launch points. Then it spotted the Juliett, and left the Oscar to prosecute the new target.

A very close call, and much happy shouting when the contact came in.


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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/19/2021 12:24:06 AM   
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Spotting the Yankee Notch was interesting too. At long range I couldn't localize him, but once I could get a contact on the missiles before they dog-legged I knew approximately where to go, even without seeing the actual launch.




The Yankee Notch actually did manage to fire all its missiles. The very last bunch were launched just as the P-3 went in, but between the F-5s and F-14s there were enough planes to get them all.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/19/2021 1:24:17 AM   
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Nice AAR, I love the detail you get into!

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/19/2021 2:02:03 AM   
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Good detective work Andrew,

Agree with BeirutDude - great AAR as always.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/20/2021 9:10:11 PM   
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Part two!


REBELLION!

As if a hostile Soviet Union isn't enough, it looks like they're fostering a rebellion in the southern Philippine islands too! There's an encampment down there somewhere, and government asks us for help finding the targets, so one of our maritime patrol P-3s is sent south to look around. Its long endurance and FLIR sensor make it ideal for this sort of work. After some scouting around it finds the rebel encampment in the mountains of Leyte, and descends for a closer look, hoping to remain invisible in the dark. The flash of an SA-7 launch proves this is a risky business, but fortunately the long-ranged shot misses, and the P-3 ascends to loiter at a safe altitude. It'll stay on-station for hours, until Philippine attack planes can arrive during the day. (This feels very like the Middle-East, where P-3s are being used exactly this way.)


MOVEMENTS AT SEA

My ships continue hurrying through the dark waters towards the rendezvous, slowing from time to time to listen for subs, when the Ingersoll suddenly gets a hard contact on active sonar. Moments later torpedoes are inbound on the carrier group again! It's the same drill as before, with ASROCs and Mk46s going downrange BOL, while the carrier group turns away and scatters. Helicopters come clattering in at low altitude, and manage to find and kill an SSN that's fleeing the area where the ASROC-dropped torpedo landed. The enemy's torpedoes, deprived of guidance, go rumbling through the center of my scattering ships, and fortunately don't hit anyone.

This second close-range ambush of my carrier group is alarming. I have to average 27 knots to make the rendezvous in time, which means I'm effectively blind for most of the time. The helicopters I have patrolling out front clearly aren't enough to reliably find the enemy. My S-3s and P-3s should theoretically do a good job, except most of them are being held on the ground. Instead of having them out aggressively hunting subs, they're loading Harpoons, and planning for an anti-shipping attack on the retiring Russians. I'm really starting to question the wisdom of that choice.

Speaking of the Russians, they've altered course NNE, and are moving about 18 knots now, which means the SSN Corpus Christi could conceivably catch them. She's been called to periscope depth, given new orders, and is closing at 25 knots. If we're lucky the Russians will turn even further, to improve our chance of cutting the corner. My pilots are continuing to harass them with fighter sweeps, and over the next few hours they bag a brace of Yaks of all types, a couple of ASW helicopters, and another AEW helicopter. That makes two, and hopefully they don't have a third. No AEW will make the upcoming strike a lot more effective.


DAYLIGHT COUNTERINSURGENCY

As daylight comes to the Philippines, a series of attack planes lift off from the airfields around Manila and head for the rebel encampment in the mountains of Leyte. First to arrive are the F-5s, dashing in to suppress the MANPADS groups with rockets. These turn out to be almost completely ineffective, but the nimble fighters are quick enough to get out of trouble before the tiny missiles can hit. A few more F-5s hit the central tent complex with 500lb bombs, which do significantly more damage.

Next to arrive are some of the little AS-211 Warriors, small jet trainers with light bomb-loads, and things go poorly for them. They're nowhere near as fast as the F-5s, and one goes down in flames, while another staggers away smoking, struggling to recover to the nearest airfield. Their little 250 lb bombs do almost nothing.

It turns out to be the propellor-driven OV-10s who do the bulk of the work. Guided by the loitering P-3, they come in from all points of the compass, simultaneously hitting the SA-7s with a storm of cannon-fire, rockets, and napalm. They wheel about, confident they've destroyed the main opposition, and proceed to strafe the remainder of the encampment mercilessly. That's when an un-spotted SA-7 gunner steps out from behind a tree and knocks the right engine off one of the diving planes. The others are far too slow to run away, so they turn desperately to attack, strafing the area hard. It seems to work, and no further missile fire comes their way.

More planes eventually arrive to complete the destruction of the camp, and the P-3 finally flies to the nearby airport to refuel before heading back to Guam. En-route, the startled sensor operator finds a rebel mortar unit near the airfield. These are the same sort of guys who bombarded Cubi Pt, but they've not been attacking. Are they sleeping in? Maybe they didn't get the memo that the war has started?? In any case, a few more planes are sent to take care of them, and that seems to be that.

(The P-3 has been essential here. Without its sustained spotting and surveillance by FLIR it would have been extremely difficult to spot and attack the rebels. Casualties to MANPADS would have been much higher.)


HARPOON ATTACK

Staff have been assessing options for attacking the retiring Russian task force, and after rejecting a few options for a series of hasty night attacks then day attacks, have settled on making one major attack in the afternoon. The advantage is that we will have as much firepower as we can muster. The disadvantage is that our planes have a long way to fly, and there won't be any chance of a second attack.

The Russians have continued heading NNE at 18 knots, and now they're actually closer to Iwo Jima than to my carrier. According to the watchful EP-3s which are shadowing them, the enemy formation is screened by destroyers: Udaloys in front and Sovremennys behind. I should have a clear shot at the heavies if I come in from the side. Therefore, the intention is to attack from the SE, on their right flank. The final strike package consists of three B-52s and five P-3s toting Harpoons from Guam, while the carrier sends a pair of S-3s and six of my F-18s with Harpoons, and the remaining eight of the F-18s with HARMs. We haven't seen any sign of airborne activity since the last fighter sweep, so we're reasonably confident that we won't need a large fighter escort. Two flights of F-14s accompany the strike, along with some EA-6 jammers. Most importantly, a formation of KC-135s set out to loiter south of the enemy, ready to refuel the planes and send them safely home.

The flight in is uneventful, although the sudden appearance of an ASW helicopter shows the enemy isn't completely passive. The Harpoon carriers drop to low altitude, below the horizon, and swing on to their attack bearings. The HARM carriers drop to medium altitude, ready to fire and evade low. Even the SSN USS Corpus Christi has come to periscope depth, ready to add its four missiles to the salvo. Each group fires at the designated time, and by 12:45 there are 64 Harpoons inbound, one third headed for the Kiev, and two thirds for the Kirov. How long before the Russians spot them?

Longer than I expected! The missiles are almost on top of them before they react, and by then it's too late. The Slava is in the path of the missiles headed for the Kirov, and vanishes immediately under multiple impacts. The bulk of the missiles fly on, and despite her best efforts the Kirov is overwhelmed too. There's just over half a dozen missiles left, and they head for the Udaloy I. Two of them get through, crippling her. Meanwhile HARMs are raining down all over the fleet, contributing to the chaos and soaking up SAMs. The Kiev is fighting for her life, and takes five Harpoon hits, plus a few HARMs. The last few missiles from the S-3s, who were a few miles out of position at the launch, home remorselessly on the Kiev, but her escorts and her CIWs manage to knock them down.


INTERLUDE

As the smoke settles, my carrier strike aircraft turn for home, tanking at the waiting KC-135s and proceeding at an economical cruise. They can see smoke on the horizon behind them, but most of them aren't sure how well they've done. Still, there haven't been any emergency beepers, so everyone is cautiously optimistic. The B-52s and most of the P-3s head back to Guam, but two are detached to head for the carrier to provide additional ASW screening. (They will land on Luzon to refuel, and fly back to Guam later.)

Meanwhile, radar operators on the orbiting EP-3 assess the situation in the enemy task group. The Slava and the Kirov are gone. One of the Udaloys is limping along at a sorry 6 knots, and the Kiev has drifted to a halt. It looks like one of the Sovremennys might be a little slowed too. And are they all coming to a stop, rallying around the striken Kiev, where my sub can pounce on them? Heck no! The rotters are buggering off, leaving the Kiev behind.

The Corpus Christi comes up to periscope depth for another update and then sets course, ignoring the Kiev for the moment, and hoping to catch up with the main body of the retiring task group. Meanwhile, flights of F-14s are sent to loiter in the nearby, along with the tankers and the watchful EP-3. The Kiev probably can't launch aircraft, but wouldn't it be embarassing if she did? Best to have somebody on guard...

Over in the west, the carrier group and replenishment group continue to close on the rendezvous area. My other SSN and the lone Perry are approaching from the east, sprinting and drifting as they hunt for subs, while bored F-14 pilots keep on the lookout for pop-up SSGN attacks (or the remote possibility of interference from Cam Ranh Bay). My helicopters are sweeping ahead of the carrier, as is an S-3, but I still don't have great ASW coverage. Since I'm forced to travel at 30 kts, my big fear is that I will run blindly over an SS. The arrival of those extra P-3s will be a big help.


CORPUS CHRISTI

The Corpus Christi is down below the layer heading north at full speed again, hoping to catch up with the main body of the task group, periodically coming to periscope depth to get course updates from the EP-3. I had hoped the enemy would slow down or turn, but that's not happening, and time is running out. The navigator and the captain confer, and agree that if they want to catch the task group and still have time to deal with the Kiev, then they will have to move faster. Courses are set, the sub descends, and accelerates to flank speed. Thirty-two knots, and deaf as a post! Lord help us if they've got a screening sub to cover their retreat.

An anxious hour goes by, and the captain gives the order. Cutting to creep, they ascend cautiously into the layer, and there's the expected sound signature. One Sovremenny almost two miles ahead, and another about seven miles ahead. Two Mk48s get fired at each ship, and then the Corpus Christi ducks back under the layer, cuts the wires, turns around, and accelerates away at full speed.

Up in the air, the loitering F-14s suddenly pick up airborne contacts, as multiple ASW helicopters spring into the air from the remaining ships. The fighters gleefully dive down to attack, and as they do they see a pair of violent explosions tear a ship in two. They manage to hit the ASW helicopters, despite some SAM fire, and climb to safe altitude again. Radar operators on the EP-3 track the other Sovremenny as it suddenly accelerates to full speed for a few minutes, and then suddenly stops, and then vanishes from their scopes.

The Corpus Christi clears the area for half an hour, before rising to get another update from the P-3. Chasing the remaining ships at high speed is getting increasingly risky, and seems unwise. Instead, she turns back south-west, first heading for the listing Udaloy, and then for the drifting Kiev. Both ships are torpedoed and sunk, and the Corpus Christi cheerfully slips away into the obscurity of the ocean.


RENDEZVOUS

Over at the rendezvous zone, my ships are reaching their destination. The P-3s have laid a comprehensive field of sonobuoys, the San Francisco and the Perry are creeping around being subtle, and helicopters are plunking their dipping sonar here and there around the ships.

The F-14s are basing back on the carrier now, and only one S-3, still undergoing maintenance, is left on shore. Hoses are pumping fuel to the thirsty ships, and replacement munitions are going across on slings. The EP-3s are still tracking the last surviving Kara and Udaloy, as they head north. The sailors' thoughts are turning northward too. They're to sail for Japan, into the teeth of the Soviet bomber force. They've done well here, but how well will they do there?

Time will tell.


Thanks again for another highly entertaining scenario.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/20/2021 11:18:29 PM   
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Well done sir!

Curious, did you lose any AC at Cubi Point? In my tests I lost a bunch of them, but you were far more proactive.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/20/2021 11:51:34 PM   
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Impressions

This is another challenging fight, with all sorts of interesting things to do, and a well-coordinated enemy attack to fend off. Having half the air-group out of place on-shore, and delayed by fuel problems was a very nice way to temporarily reduce the power of the carrier group. When things erupted on the ground and in the harbour it was suddenly a very tense situation, wondering if I was going to be able to get them all off the ground before they were destroyed by sabotage or enemy fire. (I lost 6 SF.260Ws to the truck bomb, then a KC-135, 2 F-5s, and 3 F-18s to the gunfire and mortars at Cubi, and another F-5 to the bomb up at Laoag.) I even started sending long-range planes like the C-141 back to Guam, just to get them away from potential danger of follow-on attacks.

Getting your carrier safely to the rendezvous is a bit of a trick, and even though things worked out in the end, I'm not sure I made the right choices. If I'd headed straight for the rendezvous I'd have needed to average 20 knots, which would have allowed modestly effective ASW screening in front of the carrier. Instead, I turned back to meet the Vincennes, and added about 160 miles to my trip. That suddenly meant I had to average nearly 30 knots throughout, and that meant almost no effective ship-based ASW screening at all. It also gave the subs more time to close on me. I then compounded this difficulty by sending most of my P-3s away to Guam to load Harpoons, keeping most of my S-3s on tanker or Harpoon duty, and keeping them all grounded until it was time to strike. It was thus pure luck that I survived the two sub attacks en-route.

I was definitely worried about the possibility of subs between Luzon and Taiwan, but fortunately the Kilo was in the south half of the its patrol zone when I went past the north edge. I had sonobuoys in its area, but none of them detected it. If I'd gone south... I never did meet the Charlie on the west coast either, and my replenishment group got past it without being attacked. Makes me glad I had those land-based F-14s doing a CAP above it, though.


USSR

I came extremely close to losing the Vincennes in the opening salvo, and things were getting quite warm for the carrier group too. At this point there were still 7 heavy missiles on the Oscar and 18 more on the KUG. I think if they had been included in the opening salvo I would definitely have lost ships. The Vincennes almost for sure, and probably some in the carrier group too. A bump upwards in WRA quantity could make the opening salvo extremely deadly.

The retiring Russian KUG had no radar cover once the two AEW helicopters were shot down, which allowed my Harpoons to get quite close to the target (~ 4 nm) before they were detected. It may be worth turning at least one of the surface ship radars on (maybe a Sovremenny?) if the AEW are inactive, or even at all times once hostilities start. That would push missile detection ranges out significantly (~ 11 nm), and give them a much better chance to use their massive SAM defences. I reran a test, and the extra warning was able to keep the Kirov alive. (Although it does mean the radar picket could be engaged immediately by HARMs; no free lunch.) NATO has enough MPA that the Russians will almost certainly be detected whenever NATO wants, so it's unlikely they can hide by EMCON.

The KUG AEW patrol line is right up at the edge of the SAM range, so I was able to snipe it reasonably easily. Perhaps it would be more survivable closer to the center of the task group? Unlike the surface search helicopter, it does not need to be forward.

The Yankee Notch and the Juliett both seemed to stay up at periscope depth, which helped detect them in the final engagement. Maybe they can be set to go deeper once they have fired all their shots, to help them evade?


Civil

I'm not sure why the southern mortar platoon didn't engage targets at the Tacloban airport. It was certainly in range. The one up north shot at Cubi Point, and it seems to have the same settings. Maybe a mission would ensure it engages?

It might be worth turning off Collective Responsibility for the Civil side. Once the dhow was spotted opening fire they all turned red, and I was able to engage them all including the minelayer, which I probably shouldn't have known about.

What is the role of the commercial trawler Pelikano? It has no mission or weapons or course. Just a spotter? When it turned red I Harpooned it just in case.


Civil.

Nice touch with the ferries. I was seriously wondering whether they were coup-de-main or raiding forces closing on the airbase, and whether they deserved pre-emptive engagement!


Commercial

Good to see fish finally being recognized as commercial!



Assorted Items

One of the events mentions Cam Ranh Bay as being a "beehive of activity", and I was certainly nervous about it, sending MPA and fighters to check for attacks from that direction. Maybe an active radar or two, or a brief distant appearance by a recce Badger or the like, could trigger an ESM hit and stoke player paranoia.


EVENTS, TRIGGERS, ACTIONS

There are no points events for sinking Soviet subs.
There are no points events for destroying the rebels.


Typos and the like

Scenario Description" "Departing San Diego, a couple days after Christmas you deployed to the Philippians" (Philippines)

Side briefing: "full speed run from east of the Kurls to join them, Frunze was patroling off the Kurles" (Kuriles, patrolling)

Side briefing: "About half the Air Wing is at Cubi Point on the Philippians" (Philippines)

Side briefing: "an older Juliett class SSGN." (SSG)

Special Message: "Release of special weapons NOT REPEAT NOT authorize" (authorized.)

Special message: "The Philippians are sending an official delegation" (Philippines)

Trigger: "Soviet CHGH Sunk" (CVGH, no effect on play)

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/21/2021 1:51:48 AM   
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I gave this one a try over the past few days. I cheated a bit and definitely got lucky. More on that later.

As I am sure most people do, I started by reviewing the assets available. I immediately noted the COIN aircraft. Uh oh, Belize all over again!

I also noticed the range circles on some of the ships in Subic bay. ( this is where I feel that I cheated) However, the go fast boat is what go my attention. I immediately sent the Philippine patrol boat back to the bay at maximum speed. Realizing that there was no hope of actually catching up to the speed boat, I launched 2 OV-10s in pursuit. ( One of my lucky moments). As luck would have it they were low over the bay when hostilities kicked off. I was surprised by the effectiveness of the patrol boat’s gunnery. It took down the 3 hostile ships fast enough that only one OV-10 made an attack. Expending 1/2 it’s rockets for little obvious impact. The OV-10 rockets were effective against the mortar crew though.

When hostilities started I decided to keep the replenishment group near the bay. I wanted the Kinkaid to act as an ASW screen for a short while. ( Another lucky point). Since my luck was holding, she was the initial air defense of the bay area. Her missiles stopped most of the first wave of cruise missiles. One got through. That’s where I discovered that the air defenses in place were unable to engage missiles. Was that intentional? I’m assuming that this is a database issue. I can’t believe that a Vulcan cannon couldn’t shoot at something the size of a small plane. My luck held! No explosion from the impact.
With the missile attacks in progress, I launched the F-5As and F-5Es in pairs. They turned out to be effective in intercepting the missiles. Kinkaids radar spotted them and the F-5’s got close enough for a lock on. While I never hunted the sub that launched the missiles, it’s attacks weren’t effective either.

Out at sea with the Carrier. At the scenario start I launched the E-2 to patrol north of the battle group. Soon after arriving on station there was a radar contact NW of a surfaced submarine. This contact turned out to be the Juliet mentioned in the brief. Wikipedia says she has to launch her missiles while surfaced. A surfaced nuclear capable sub near the CVBG? Not a good sign. An S-3 was sent up there. I believe it was the S-3 that reported the fist missiles inbound to the group. I also sent the USS San Francisco to intercept the Juliet just in case the S-3 wasn’t able to localize it. When the S-3 arrived the Juliet was on the surface. It didn’t dive away. The San Francisco fired a harpoon to sink it.

I had the Tidsdale recover her RHIBs and turn north at full speed. She and the Vincennes were added to the CVBG. Long term plan was to exchange the Kinkaid for the the Tidesdale in the URG.

The final bit of luck came from the same little S-3. After watching the harpoon hit the Juliet, it flew east towards the area where missiles were detected. At that point I wasn’t sure if I was dealing with an Oscar or just an offset missile route. Either way, another great piece of luck. The S-3 found an Oscar...with MAD. What’s the chance of that happening? Mr Oscar took 2 torpedoes before taking a final dive.

The CVBG launched an air strike with tanker and B-52 support from Andersen. One Sovremenny destroyer and the Minsk were eliminated. No other damage. The post scenario review showed the SA-6 missiles were not exhausted by the attacks. The Frunze had 47 remaining and the Slava having 15. With a bit more time the enemy SAG would have been chased down and eliminated. In retrospect, I think the on scene commander should have chased the Soviet group and met up with the replenishment group later. The method I used left both jobs undone. I guess my next job will be the commander of Thule latrine detail.

Losses to the CAG were 2 F-14, 3 F/A-18D and 1 S-3. All due to the bombardment. Total losses includes 3 F-5A, 1 KC-135, 1 P-3 and 5 SF.260.

The Yak-141 were a bit of a surprise. I wasn’t really paying much attention to the Soviet aircraft having assumed them to be Forgers. Nearly cost me a pair of F-18’s.

I had forgotten, at least for a while, about the available F-14s at Cubi. By the time I realized my mistake they weren’t needed,

I would agree with AndrewJ about the Soviet radars. I was able to fly very close (~20 miles) to the Slava. That made me assume he was out of SA-6.
No other contact with submarines occurred. Looks like the replenishment group passed the Charlie without being detected. The CVBG passed north of the Victor’s patrol zone.
Good news for the follow on scenarios ( many I hope), AIM-54 expenditures were kept to 18.

On the down side neither group will make the rendezvous on schedule.

Definitely enjoyed the puzzle with this one. Thanks for sharing another fun scenario!

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/21/2021 8:58:54 AM   
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Thanks guys

Great reports! I'll get some fixes out this weekend. PF#4 is on the way... well foundations laid anyway.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/21/2021 10:16:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AndrewJ

Civil

I'm not sure why the southern mortar platoon didn't engage targets at the Tacloban airport.



I see why now. The one in the north is on 'engage opportunity = yes', and the one in the south is not. Changing that allows it to engage.

There's no warning message for the one in the south, so maybe this is what you intended?

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/21/2021 1:33:56 PM   
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Forgot to mention a few things:

The Kanin class destroyer was nothing but a target. Perhaps changing the ROE to allow the SAM battery to fire on ships might help. They are very short ranged but, maybe they will get lucky.

Rebels: the reconnaissance mission request fired. However, I basically ignored it. I didn’t have and ISR assets available. Anyway to penalize the player for doing that?

The wreckage east of Luzon: love the distraction. Left me wondering what it was about. Maybe the downed airman rescue LUA would be a good add on. Points for rescuing a crew? I just collected the RHIBs and ran north.

The addition of these distractions can make the situation a bit more foggy.

Gunner, thanks again!

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 5/21/2021 5:06:14 PM   
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Good points. Will adjust

I think I may add a couple more distractions...

Probably move that Pilipino antique a little closer to the wreckage and give points for having it there for XX hrs. Will add some tidbit of int from a survivor as well.

Will fix the mortar at Tacloban, think I may add a bit more 'distraction' there as well. When you look at a map of the Communist 'hotspots' it is essentially everything except the metropolitan parts of Luzon and a few islands. So I might play that up a bit.

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 6/1/2021 12:52:01 AM   
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OK here is an update guys.



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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 6/19/2021 1:24:49 PM   
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Finally, I had some time to finish this scenario. I made a 661 points Major Victory with all ships in the replenishment zone, except for the poor USS Gridley. I hope I can write the AAR next week, because it is absolutely worth it.

(Broncos are the best!)

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 6/19/2021 1:27:24 PM   
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Excellent, I look forward to it

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 6/25/2021 10:12:18 AM   
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OK, here it is… I played with the 1.1 version.

SITUATION

The USS Constellation CVBG was ordered back from Australia to the north of the Philippines, in order to reinforce the USS Independence CVBG near Japan. But first, they had to meet a replenishment group NW of Luzon, and the air wing had to carry out an exercise with aircrafts of the US and Filipino Air Forces. The replenishment group had already been departed from Manila.

FRIENDLY FORCES

US Navy:

USS Constellation CVBG: USS Constellation (Kitty Hawk CVN); Gridley (Leahy CG); Ingersoll (Spruance DD); Lake Erie and Vincennes (Tico CGs, the latter one is catching up from Guam); Mahon S. Tisdale (OHP FFG, investigating a wrecked trawler (looks like a trap)).

Replenishment group: USS Kinkaid (Spruance DD(VLS)); Willamette (Cimmaron AO); San José (Mars AFS).

Half of the carrier’s air wing was at Cubi Point, Luzon for an exercise. The fuel had got contaminated, so most of the aircrafts could not take off for some hours (probably a sabotage).

USS San Francisco and USS City of Corpus Christi (Los Angeles class SSNs following the CVBG).

P-3 Orion MPAs in ASW or MS configurations at Cubi Point and Anderson AB (Guam). EP-3 Aries ELINT at Cubi Point.

US Air Force:

F-5E Tiger II: aggressors for the exercise at Cubi Point
2 KC-135 tankers, a C-141 Starlifter at Cubi Point.
2 B-52s at Anderson AB, being armed with Harpoons (Yess!!!)

Filipino Air Force:

F-5A Freedom Fighters (without radars) at airports on Luzon and Leyte
Interesting attack aircrafts: OV-10A Broncos, AS.211 trainers armed for ground attack, piston engine (!) SF.260Ws
Recon: F.27 and BN-2 MPAs; Super King Air 200T area surveillance aircrafts

Filipino Navy:

Miguel Malvar (a relic from World War II); Antonio Luna (a more modern patrol boat)

POSSIBLE ENEMY FORCES

Minsk (Kiev CVH); Frunze (Kirov BCGN); Chervona Ukraina (Slava CG); Sovremenny and Udaloy DDGs; unknown number of submarines (Juliet, Victor-II and “something more modern”); aircrafts of the CVH (Yak-141 Freestyles and Yak-38 Forgers); ASW and AEW helicopters of the CVH and destroyers.

PLAYTHROUGH

EVENING

Silence before the storm

The ordinary patrols (CAP, ASW, AEW, ELINT) were set up around the CVBG. The AEW immediately detected an AGI and a destroyer in front of and behind the fleet, and a Bear MPA was following us as well. The S3 Viking doing the “carrier far ASW” detected a submarine with its radar (!). I thought it was the Juliet, so the Viking flew closer and dropped some sonobuoys. I was right, it was the Juliet at periscope depth, and before I could do anything, the Viking launched a torpedo and sank the submarine (which was marked as unfriendly, so practically I started the hostilities, but nobody saw it). Similar patrols were set up west of Luzon with the available aircrafts, except for the AEW, because the Hawkeye was still waiting for fuel. I was afraid of a bomber attack form Camh Ran AB. A P-3 MS from Guam spotted the “Pelicano”, a large trawler to the west of the wrecked boat. By some reason, this trawler was hostile. The Miguel Malvar accelerated to flank speed (15 kts) to reach the wreck before morning. And at this moment the hell broke loose.
To be continued…

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 7/13/2021 3:07:53 PM   
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NIGHT

Guerilla attacks on Luzon

There were a lot of small boats floating in the bay near Cubi Point AB. Three of them suddenly turned hostile, and the closest one started shooting the AB with guns and rockets. And something (probably a pack of mortars) started shelling the AB from the top of a nearby hill. I changed the WRA for the Kinkaid and launched three Harpoons on the three hostile boats. Two of them hit their targets (including the attacking boat), but the third one missed and sank a civilian boat (they were too close to each other, sorry...). Both the AB and the Filipino Navy gave me a patrol boat, and they finished off the last guerilla boat. AS.211 trainers and OV-10 Broncos took off to silence the mortars. The trainers could not hit anything, but the Broncos made short work of them. This attack costed me 6(!) F/A-18D Hornets, 3 Tomcats, both tankers and an ES-3 Shadow. And this was the smaller problem...

Doom of the Gridley

Right when the attacks on Luzon started, the carrier AEW detected a huge number of low and high flying missiles launced from the north and flying towards the carrier group (low flying, SS-N-19 Shipwrecks) and the USS Vincennes (high flying, SS-N-12 Sandboxes). So both the Kirov BCGN and the Slava CG launched their missiles at the same time. And suddenly another 24 Shipwrecks and 16 Sandboxes appeared on the radar. What is happening here? Probably there was an Oscar class SSGN in the area (in addition to the Kirov), and the Soviet destroyers launched their missiles, too. All available fighters took off from the carrier and tried to shoot down the very fast and very low flying Soviet missiles. They were qutie ineffective, those missiles shook off the Sidewinders. SAMs launched from the destroyers and cruisers shot down one missile after another. The Vincennes heroically defended herself fron two salvos of Sandboxes, but she had only 10 SAMs left at the end. However, the carrier group had a bad luck. One missile somehow got through the SAMs (the CIWS were completely ineffective against it) and impacted into the USS Gridley, which exploded to pieces. The crew of the carrier saw the gigantic explosion, which cannot be survived by anyone. The Soviets had to pay for it.

To be continued...

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RE: Scenario for testing PF #3 Caught Flat Footed - 7/13/2021 8:21:40 PM   
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Good stuff!

I'm planning to put these AARs on my webpage when I get them together and sort out how to do it, looking forward to the rest of yours.

Cheers

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