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Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/8/2021 11:02:15 PM   
DawnRising

 

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Status: offline 		It has been more than a year since the last dev blog (at least on the official website), I wonder if there is any update on the new game? Thank you!
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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/9/2021 6:13:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dawnrising, see this thread with the December showcase of 2021 games. Good info in the video and the comments. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4916775

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/9/2021 11:43:44 PM   
DawnRising

 

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Status: offline 		Thank you! Can't wait to learn more about the game!

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/10/2021 12:49:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why not just give us a random scenario generator for FPCS ?


I've sort of tried it by just editing where the victory points are so I can send the Soviets on a long march round the map.

Then sit back and watch.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/10/2021 2:29:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Why not just give us a random scenario generator for FPCS ?


I've sort of tried it by just editing where the victory points are so I can send the Soviets on a long march round the map.

Then sit back and watch.



Yes a Scenario/Battle Generator would be a great addition and selling point.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/10/2021 7:15:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem with a Scenario/Battle Generator is the way we have structured things like maps and data (formations and such). There is no easy way to "make a battle". That is why we have talented scenario makers for the game. We are looking at some things to make building a scenario for users much easier and maybe after the release, we can see if there is a path to some kind of automation. The biggest issue is setting some form of mission on a given map and then having the AI forces able to fight it well. Pretty much any game that does autogenerated missions is either so narrow in scope so they play okay or if really open in design lead to one-sided battles or odd/unrealistic fights. If we did something we would really want the scenarios to be close to as challenging as the handmade ones.

On our radar for sure. All I can say is wait and see what we are bringing to the table for Southern Storm.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/12/2021 4:42:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CapnDarwin
The problem with a Scenario/Battle Generator is the way we have structured things like maps and data (formations and such). There is no easy way to "make a battle".


Something to consider is making variations on the battles. TacOps did this with 8 different scenarios for a battle; e.g. Gallagher 1-8. Basically choices between MRR with BTRs vs BMPs, and how the MRR battalions were echeloned. Plus an easy on/off option for the extra tank bn.

Ideally, if this were done for SS, it would be great to have a random selection for a particular battle where 1 of the 8 scenarios is chosen at start and unknown to the player. The player would then have to fight a good counter-recon battle to confirm or deny what the enemy OOB and COA is. *THAT* would be great.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 3/12/2021 9:17:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to remember Assault: tactical Combat in Europe. What a fantastic game. You rolled for "Force Level" before a scenario and the level determined your force composition.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 5/4/2021 12:41:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CapnDarwin

Dawnrising, see this thread with the December showcase of 2021 games. Good info in the video and the comments. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4916775



You mean you guys aren't doing the Middle East first?!?!?

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 5/4/2021 1:43:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		We did before Red Storm and it had problems so we took the best parts for Red Storm and hope to circle back to the Mideast down the road with the new game engine.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 5/8/2021 2:14:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very new to the series, but what is the scoop in Southern Storm? I mean what is it? Middle East, the Balkans?

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 5/8/2021 2:24:30 PM   
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http://ontargetsimulations.com/2019/12/23/december-2019/

Is it ready yet? You need any beta testers? I have alpha/beta tested WITE 1 & WITE 2, Warplan & Warplan Pacific, Valor & Victory, Computer War in Europe 2 and many others.

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DG CWIE 2
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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 5/9/2021 12:39:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Zovs, there was some additional info in the Matrix/Slitherine December 2020 wargames reveal as well. The forum post has links. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4916775

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/10/2021 6:20:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been trawling around in the threads here and watched the interview but not seen an answer to this:
Is this still slated for a fall 2021 release?

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/10/2021 9:42:01 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		Jotte, It was noted in a few places and on the Slitherine Tea time podcasts that we moved back to early 22 to better accommodate our current workload and also production schedule placement with Matrix/Slitherine having a lot of games coming out between now and then.

As a form of update, we are building and testing the scenarios, coding the campaign bits, working on data updates and documentation, and weeding out bugs, and cleaning up some UI/UX issues. Very busy times along with our support for the Professional product.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/10/2021 10:09:30 PM   
Jotte


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Status: offline 		Thank you for the swift respons and update. :)
Very much looking forward to this. The new UI and its colours are very appealing. :)

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/21/2021 9:34:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi all,

Just wondering if SS will feature new and improved supply processes. Certainly not suggesting that we as players become been counters but units surrounded and cutoff should not be able to resupply either....somewhere in the middle perhaps?

Rob.

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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/22/2021 1:04:14 PM   
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RE: Any Updates On Southern Storm? - 7/22/2021 2:09:36 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		@Rob, we have made a number of changes in the resupply model to work with a number of new features I can't talk about. Some of that work is ongoing right now as well, but other features have priority right now and we may be able to do more post-SS release in other areas.


@Jo, No date as of now, but we would like to start soon with a small number of folks. There are a few things on our end we need to work on to make the Beta experience better with some documentation and UI/UX additions. That is going on now as well as work on the Professional side. We will let folks know when Beta is coming. Trust me on that.

Take care folks!



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