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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 12:47:27 AM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 12:54:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		He is in a situation where your search and recon can see what he is doing before he does it - like that BB TF headed for Madras. It's a losing proposition to stay there when he cannot spring any surprises. He would be better off withdrawing and taking Chittagong IMO.

Nice to see those old BBs pumped down to just major float damage and clearing some engineering damage. It will be much harder to finish them off than he probably thinks.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 1:22:39 AM   
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Nice to see those old BBs pumped down to just major float damage and clearing some engineering damage. It will be much harder to finish them off than he probably thinks.

Indeed. Would it be an idea to try and move Resolution north and out of harms way, with that Flot and Eng damage reduction? He most likely thinks they're both critically damaged and trapped in port, and if the next bombardment only shows one BB he might assume the other one sank. You'd still have Ramillies to serve as bait, and it might save a couple of hundred VPs if he brings the kitchen sink to Cochin.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 1:45:21 AM   
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Perhaps some LRCAP can catch his transports....Not successful so far though.


I don't recall ever having success with early fighters. Maybe it takes the faster fighters available later on.


I haven't pulled out all my tricks to do it yet...only two hexes away...should be able to. Probably skills and experience matter somewhat along with range.


Try them at 1000 feet to catch them taking off and landing.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 1:52:06 AM   
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Allied armor is so great.


If he has little to no armour, antitank guns, and other artillery there, the other units can bombard while those Lee/Grants can keep attacking. Especially if you can keep up the sea bombardments. Burn his supplies, keep the disruption and fatigue up, also keep him from digging in with any port and/or airfield damage.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 4:19:14 PM   
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I think Japan is undergoing an attitude adjustment break...normally he is very fast with the turns, especially on the weekend.

This is the last message I got from Japan:

Its like 44 with all of these a/c in the air!

Will finish off the turn after I sleep on it ;-)

Little does he know that most heavy bomber squadrons didn't fly...

The vaunted KB got a bloody nose off Brisbane, the IJN heavy cruiser force is a complete mess, the IJA is evacuating Comilla and Dacca, the mini KB got roughly handled by 1 Banshee squadron and two American fighter squadrons, American subs are running rampant,
the IJA is surrounded at Bundaberg, Rockhampton is perilous, China is a stall, and the Japanese Air Force is getting roughly handled...I fear for what his pilot quality is like.

Japan can point to savaging the British Navy...but in truth it disappears anyhow and he isn't leveraging those gains. Plus there has been quite a few American Destroyer losses too...but they have certainly earned their VP overall.

What will happen?





can only hope your opponent will keep going with the game in late 42 because attacking India, Australia, China and deep into the Pacific results in being defeated in every theater. He should be experienced enough to know that sending a division or two somewhere with limited support won't result in a whole continent to crumble.

The first major carrier engagement will probably end this PBEM which is quite a pity, I always kind of regret seeing these failed IJ campaigns in early 42.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 6:19:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		They are playing Iron DBB so empire can afford some early setbacks. NJP is experienced therefore I have been wondering too what is he doing. He probably could not resist and with all the additional assets wanted to go big from start, he should have known better.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 6:38:46 PM   
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I think he is merely transitioning his strategey.


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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 6:57:00 PM   
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Perhaps some LRCAP can catch his transports....Not successful so far though.


I don't recall ever having success with early fighters. Maybe it takes the faster fighters available later on.


I haven't pulled out all my tricks to do it yet...only two hexes away...should be able to. Probably skills and experience matter somewhat along with range.





1. What is the range from the airfield which houses the LRCAP fighters and the target enemy base you qare attempting to interdict the enemy transport planes?

2. Are the LRCAP fighters using drop tanks?

3. What is the normal and extended range of the LRCAP fighters?

4. What range have you limited your lrcAP fighters to?

5. Do you have multiple squadrons tasked with intercepting the enemy transport units? As a general rule more than 1 LRCAPing fighter unit against enemy transports is a waste of fighter assets.

6. Leader stats will be important.

7. Even if the interception range to the transports can be met, shorter ranged fighters are not as good as long range fighters.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 11:47:54 PM   
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Two torpedoes hit only one explodes....






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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 11:48:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		We plant a torpedo, but it fails to explode, on the Haruna.

Sub attack near Trivandrum at 27,45

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
DD Samidare
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Ushio
DD Suzukaze

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

SS Porpoise launches 4 torpedoes at BB Haruna

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/11/2021 11:54:13 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:01:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Two battleship groups...it is like the perfect distance, since I suspect a lot of bombardment groups will dither on the way to Cochin, and he has to worry about Triv too.

Just think of the oilers and tankers he has to bring in to keep these battleships fed, I realize it is scenario 2, but still...






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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:07:57 AM   
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IJN SAGs visited Bundaberg during the night...




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:25:47 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:27:49 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:33:28 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:37:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure why she went down so fast, but she was doomed anyway if she broke off from the main task force to limp home...our bombers would have nailed her given good weather.

Flank speed could be one guess...bad die roll another. But most likely the magazine exploding did her in.

Scratch one Kongo.




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:38:03 PM   
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He's either short of escorts or he's taking risks he doesn't have to take

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:41:28 PM   
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BB escorted by 2 DDs in Indian country?

He's either short of escorts or he's taking risks he doesn't have to take


Nah, that is all that got involved in the tussle...but he is short destroyers. I think there was a total of four, but some IJN destroyers have 0 ASW.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:43:16 PM   
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Not sure why she went down so fast, but she was doomed anyway if she broke off from the main task force to limp home...our bombers would have nailed her given good weather.

Scratch one Kongo.


The magazine explosion. The immediate flooding, the bottom having a big hole suddenly appearing, maybe side plates open to the sea or at least ruptures along the seams, bulkheads warped so the watertight doors aren't watertight if they will even close, other shock damage including to the water mains, and other fire fighting equipment damaged, not to mention the fires.

The CPOs need to keep their racy girly periodicals off the ships so the younger crew members can't get ahold of them - especially in a tense combat situation.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 12:45:25 PM   
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BB escorted by 2 DDs in Indian country?

He's either short of escorts or he's taking risks he doesn't have to take


Nah, that is all that got involved in the tussle...but he is short destroyers. I think there was a total of four, but some IJN destroyers have 0 ASW.


If I remember correctly, the first Fubuki class do not have any until their first upgrade - but those start on 1 Jan 1942.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 1:04:25 PM   
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BB escorted by 2 DDs in Indian country?

He's either short of escorts or he's taking risks he doesn't have to take


Nah, that is all that got involved in the tussle...but he is short destroyers. I think there was a total of four, but some IJN destroyers have 0 ASW.


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Still a bizarre decision (but granted, I don't know what his situation is regarding ASW capable DDs)

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 3:28:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another general attack on Bundaberg today, with fresh Matildas and an Australian mobile unit with upgraded troops...back up to over 900 AV with the reinforcements and withdrawing the other troops for R&R. Hopefully this will do it.

I am only sweeping with one squadron and some Airacobras are strafing...Navy staying put as I don't want to skirmish with the IJN fleets at Rockhampton. In hindsight, I probably should have swept Rockhampton and had a squadron of divebombers on naval attack with 50 fighter escort...but I am being rather cautious right now & my squadrons weren't in the proper HQs.

Meanwhile, at the Line Islands, Christmas is packed to capacity, prepping. A fleet carrier left Pearl to ferry planes from San Diego back to Christmas, including a small squadron of long legged Buffalo recon planes. Next 30 days will see a strong buildup of small xaps, fuel, supplies, and troops for staging into Baker area, the establishment of more seaplane bases, and the building of prep. An ake or two at dot bases nearby will give me at least one rearm...

I am torn whether I should send in the battleship fleet for bombardments...my brain says not yet as I lack enough escorts. Rather I need to establish the KB off Australia, and hit hard with Cruisers and Light Cruisers and get away. It is an atoll so I should be able to generate enough disruption with smaller ships and airpower.

I am tempted to turn one of the dot bases into a runway...and time the operation with the completion of the runway.

On tomorrows checklist an examination of minelayers for the operation and where I will be able to load the mines and the pool of mines available.





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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 3:44:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		The operation...sketchbook and ideas right now.

I like the idea of really getting the very small 2nd Marine Air Wing deep behind lines, getting them enough supply and springing a huge CAT torpedo attack where Japan is least expecting it. Would tie up a bit of sub transport capability, but it would be oh so satisfying.

I do have two squadrons of Cats training torpedo skills...

So I don't spam this dot base thing, I am following an imposed rule that a unit can only be split from once...






Just looked at VP tally...7 of the last 10 days positive for the Allies.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 4:34:56 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 6:17:15 PM   
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Your damaged BBs just earned their "bait division" badges!

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 9:25:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I felt pretty confident I was going to hurt his battleships at Cochin...Japan couldn't get DL on subs a few hexes outside of Colombo, but I figured it would be planes finishing it off. I had stacked mines, cd guns, subs for something to inflict enough damage to cause a ship or two to create a new escort task force...and then hit them from 3-4 bases with air. Or simply for the local commander to dither on a bombardment run, which is hard to prevent.

I could try to send one R class north to Bombay...but the problem is Japan could come after them with fast cruisers and destroyers and really put up a fight, and the runways simply aren't built up along the path yet to extract a cost.

I need multiple level 2 runways, with HQa and a squadron of bombers and fighters (2 F sqdrns if carriers are around) tied to that HQa, to do the job, and I am not there yet. I am building up Goa and Mangalore but they are just level 1 AFs...

I keep thinking some fleet carriers will show up here...that would give me an opportunity at Baker Island that would be hard to miss. Plus, I want to see if I can penetrate the KBs CAP with land based air...something that is doable this early in the game.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 9:44:27 PM   
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I felt pretty confident I was going to hurt his battleships at Cochin...Japan couldn't get DL on subs a few hexes outside of Colombo, but I figured it would be planes finishing it off.

I could try to send one R class north to Bombay...but the problem is Japan could come after them with fast cruisers and destroyers and really put up a fight, and the runways simply aren't built up along the path yet to extract a cost.

I need multiple level 2 runways, with HQa and a squadron of bombers and fighters (2 of carriers are around) tied to that HQa, to do the job, and I am not there yet. I am building up Goa and Mangalore but they are just level 1 AFs...

I keep thinking some fleet carriers will show up here...that would give me an opportunity at Baker Island that would be hard to miss. Plus, I want to see if I can penetrate the KBs CAP with land based air...something that is doable this early in the game.

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This was dumb on your opponents part. He had too many pots on the fire to begin with and made sinking 2 old BB's (that would probably be withdrawn anyway) a priority. He paid a high price for his risk. You have real subs in these waters, not many, but their torpedoes work. None of his surface combatants will ever get replaced and now he is starting to dig into his fleet escorts. Japan needs to shorten her lines and pick better fights

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/12/2021 10:36:28 PM   
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Thanks for everyones' wellwishes.

Took him back to the airport this am.

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