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RE: Post manual typos here - 3/31/2021 11:59:40 PM

Beethoven1

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I think this is a typo in Witepedia - in the entry for the 3rd Soviet Tank division, it says "Lake Urnen" which I think is supposed to be Lake Ilmen

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/2/2021 8:04:20 PM

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(scenario 1941, coord : 202, 154) the airbase is incorrectly identified as Bobriusk Air Base. Should be Bobruisk

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/3/2021 8:03:35 PM

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Looks like a missing word on page 71 and maybe a minor correction for tense:

quote:

Axis Sudden loss will occur if they did not a High Water...

Maybe it should say

quote:

Axis Sudden loss will occur if they do not get a High Water...

Also there is no day listed for the October 1942 high water mark score needed. It just says October 1942.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/4/2021 10:34:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kel

not a manual typo, but a map typo :
hex 181, 187 should be Przemysl East and not Przemsyl East

please report map/wiki issues in a separate thread - I have no access to those aspects and I doubt that those who can make such changes will read a thread purely about typos in the manual

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/7/2021 1:16:34 AM

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21.8.1. Setting Units to Static Mode
Any non-isolated, non-frozen combat unit on the map may
be placed in static mode if that unit has not moved during
the turn and is currently located in a hex with a manmade
fortification level of two or greater (the AI is not held to the
fort level requirement).

Manual should mention that units in Assault HQ's also can not be put into Static mode.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/15/2021 7:32:47 AM

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4.7.9. RE-ASSIGNING SUPPORT UNITS

Second paragraph last text in parentheses does not make sense:

(in a game against the AI you can do change this at any stage - 36.18)

It would read better if the word 'do' was removed.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/17/2021 5:20:43 PM

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This is more a story to tell about a whole section.

The story began when the game interface blocks me from seeing the proposed costs of leader changes. Since the button is tied to AP cost, the player is apparently only allowed to think about leaders early in the turn. So, I decided to read the Manual, and found section 15.6.2 Dismissal and Replacement in the section under Leaders.

This section tells me that the Admin costs are displayed and an x + x format, and that sometimes it costs more than other times. But doesn't really provide any more information. Since I had played previous games in the series, the format wasn't new to me, The question to which I was seeking an answer was how to calculate the first x from the ratings I could see since I was blocked from seeing the actual x during portions of the turn.

Also, when I reflected on it, and having played these games before, I noticed that it seems rather odd that the words "Political Rating" do not appear at all in this section about manually replacing leaders. It is apparently up to the reader to know from previous knowledge that section 15.3.1 Political Ratings will also talk more about these mysterious x's, although without actually mentioning x's. Unfortunately, even putting the two sections together, I'm still apparently having to make a note to self to check Leader Replacement Costs when I am permitted to do so, as there still does not appear that there is enough information in these two sections combined of the manual to be able to do so.

I guess I'm a cranky old retired engineer these days, but in terms of style, I prefer my manuals to be higher on information content. This manual seems to be more on the conversational side.

Since the manual is on the screen while I compose this, the following rule caught my eye.

quote:

Leaders can serve one level up and two levels down from the optimum rank for
the HQ level.

No offense, but that seems to be rather less than clear. A more clear and concise statement of the relationship between the leaders current rank and the rank in the table in the manual about 'optimum rank' could probably be composed. If the difference is only 1 level of rank, then I suppose it can work either direction. But when there is a 2 rank difference, then the direction of the difference is going to matter, and this wording is very unclear about that. Is it saying that a Captain can command a Division, or is it saying that a General can command a company? The cranky old retired engineer in me has learned that words like Up and Down only are meaningful when a frame of reference has been established. A clearer wording that establishes this frame of reference could probably be found.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/17/2021 5:53:34 PM

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Oh, and the text about an "x + x" format probably is a typo. "x + y format" would be closer. Although, since the 'y' is for Dismissal Cost, 'x + DC' might be even clearer.

In Algebra, the x + x would imply that both numbers are the same. 'x plus x' converts to just '2x' or two times the variable signified by x. Thus, 'x + y' is better, since the two numbers are not the same. And there is no reason not to go for better clarity and just abandon the x's and y's in favor of something that represents the real meanings, like DC for Dismissal Cost, if you feel that the abbreviation is required instead of just saying ' + Dismissal Cost'.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/21/2021 10:55:13 AM

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before.

4.14.2. Other Theatre Boxes

In addition to the Reserve, here are a number of Theatre boxes that model

should be:

In addition to the Reserve, there are a number of Theatre boxes that model

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/27/2021 6:12:09 PM

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Not in the manual. but a possible typo of a general in the game

In the game: Fyodor Falakeev

Should it be Fyodor Falaleev

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RE: Post manual typos here - 4/27/2021 7:34:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cblattmann

Not in the manual. but a possible typo of a general in the game

In the game: Fyodor Falakeev

Should it be Fyodor Falaleev

since it doesn't relate to the manual suggest a post in the data/map issues forum. I'm prob the only person to regularly check this thread and have no access to the files used to populate the game.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 5/11/2021 12:59:26 PM

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Chelyabinsk is duplicated here:

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Terrain Defensive Modifiers - 5/13/2021 8:40:04 AM

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Contradicting entries for (Light) Urban and Heavy Urban Defensive Modifiers:

23.5.2 gives one set of values

38.4.2 gives another different set

Which one is correct? : )

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RE: Terrain Defensive Modifiers - 5/13/2021 11:37:36 AM

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Zrinyi II should be in bold

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RE: Terrain Defensive Modifiers - 7/24/2021 1:54:06 AM

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17.3.3. Maximum Air Units for each Air Operational Group, on page 201

States Armies = 600 points, but in the game the Army level AOG's have a limit of 450 points.

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RE: Post manual typos here - 8/3/2021 12:38:50 PM

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v 01.01.02 Beta
Scenario: Valikie Luki

Hex-Mex:

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RE: Post manual typos here - 8/3/2021 12:48:57 PM

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v 01.01.02 Beta
Scenario: Valikie Luki

Hex-Mex2:

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RE: Post manual typos here - 8/6/2021 7:07:11 AM

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RE: Post manual typos here - 12/20/2021 7:39:24 AM

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The following excerpt refers to tutorial videos that do not exist:

1.10. TUTORIALS
Included with the game are some video tutorials to help
get you started. These can be accessed from the game
launcher menu or can be found in the Manuals Folder.
We recommend players start by watching the video
tutorials, followed by playing the introductory Velikie Luki
scenario (from the Soviet side).

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RE: Post manual typos here - 2/9/2022 10:16:04 PM

Nikel

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I am fixing the errors listed here, or trying to.

In the "beautiful" ebook, that besides the content is a piece of art.

It is possible because the pdf is not protected, though I guess is copyrighted.

I am fixing the easy things posted here, not adding content like Loki100 is doing with the living manual.

A pair of examples, the double Chelyabinsk removed.

Zrinyi II in bold.

So the questions are:

1. If finished, may I upload it?

2. There are error posted here but not corrected in the live manual, so what to do with them?

3. Any more known errors?

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