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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/6/2021 8:37:35 PM

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is there any trick to make the flow to China work or am I obliged to get Ramree Island and fix in the normal way?

OK, not too sure about all this 'stuff' with Ramree Island being a route to get supply to China. How would it when all the terrain past it would be controlled by Japan?

In addition its a 0(0) port, so that means small and under 1126b no help loading/unloading from NS devices. Add to that that there's only one hex to the mainland, and that's across a river into a jungle. Plus, its under the watchful 'eye' of Prome, which should be a rather large Japanese airbase, allowing substantial interference on the part of Japan.

So, how is it a solution? I really don't know.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/6/2021 11:50:18 PM

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I was mostly replying to this intervention you made: "Don't get too fixated on this. Yes, the USMC units are better squad for squad than their Army counterparts, but both are miles ahead of IJ squads.". It's not true until the first upgrades kick in.

You are not be using the latest device database files.

USA 41 Rifle squads have 15/20 (a/arm - a/soft)

USMC Rifle squads have 15/21

One point of difference is one point of difference, but there's more to in considering things like the MMG/HMG distribution and (likely more importantly) more combat engineers in the Marine units at the regimental level.

Ohhh, now I see what's the issue. Yes, I think we are not using the latest database and in the one we use the USMC have a lower a/soft than USArmy and both are approximately similar to IJA/SNLF ones. At least in '41 and a good part of '42.

I know there are more things to consider: I was just considering the raw a/soft of the main infantry troops (rifle squads, MMGs and HMGs) since I'm not very familiar with early-war Allied infantry capabilities on the offensive.

Just remember this, the Allied infantry forces and especially the under-trained Indian forces are not very capable except for certain units.

The armoured units, when trained, are very useful and especially so when paired with good artillery units.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/7/2021 12:40:00 PM

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*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/7/2021 1:23:58 PM

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*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

That's just plain sneaky, Michael!

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/7/2021 1:52:39 PM

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is there any trick to make the flow to China work or am I obliged to get Ramree Island and fix in the normal way?

OK, not too sure about all this 'stuff' with Ramree Island being a route to get supply to China. How would it when all the terrain past it would be controlled by Japan?

In addition its a 0(0) port, so that means small and under 1126b no help loading/unloading from NS devices. Add to that that there's only one hex to the mainland, and that's across a river into a jungle. Plus, its under the watchful 'eye' of Prome, which should be a rather large Japanese airbase, allowing substantial interference on the part of Japan.

So, how is it a solution? I really don't know.

I think the rationale behind it is that it's the best substitute that the Allies have in Burma until they recapture Rangoon. Taking Ramree and building up the airbase there lets you run coastal amphib task forces from Calcutta to unload supply there.

The theory is that building a substantial stockpile in Ramree will let more supply flow into Burma. Getting it from there to China will likely require conquest of at least middle and upper Burma (and at which point there's something wrong if you've not already got Rangoon).

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

As a more general addition on this, overall you will want to keep ironclad control over Allied devices.

Squad devices are a particular pressure point, especially for aforementioned Australian CMF/AIF upgrades but also PIAT and Vickers more generally.

Tanks are a whole different kettle of fish. It's a good idea to take the time to properly understand what TOE's use what tank types, and where there is scope for to optimize. The specific advice I'd give on this is to not worry about what the "best" tank model is and instead to focus on getting as much onto the board as possible. A Sherman may be substantially better than a Stuart, but for your average IJ infantryman they're both effectively King Tigers.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 3:25:06 AM

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The theory is that building a substantial stockpile in Ramree will let more supply flow into Burma. Getting it from there to China will likely require conquest of at least middle and upper Burma (and at which point there's something wrong if you've not already got Rangoon).

Thanks m_m.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 12:36:33 PM

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While I ponder your wonderful suggestions and tips, I review Allied naval traffic...

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 12:57:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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is there any trick to make the flow to China work or am I obliged to get Ramree Island and fix in the normal way?

OK, not too sure about all this 'stuff' with Ramree Island being a route to get supply to China. How would it when all the terrain past it would be controlled by Japan?

In addition its a 0(0) port, so that means small and under 1126b no help loading/unloading from NS devices. Add to that that there's only one hex to the mainland, and that's across a river into a jungle. Plus, its under the watchful 'eye' of Prome, which should be a rather large Japanese airbase, allowing substantial interference on the part of Japan.

So, how is it a solution? I really don't know.

I think the rationale behind it is that it's the best substitute that the Allies have in Burma until they recapture Rangoon. Taking Ramree and building up the airbase there lets you run coastal amphib task forces from Calcutta to unload supply there.

The theory is that building a substantial stockpile in Ramree will let more supply flow into Burma. Getting it from there to China will likely require conquest of at least middle and upper Burma (and at which point there's something wrong if you've not already got Rangoon).

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

As a more general addition on this, overall you will want to keep ironclad control over Allied devices.

Squad devices are a particular pressure point, especially for aforementioned Australian CMF/AIF upgrades but also PIAT and Vickers more generally.

Tanks are a whole different kettle of fish. It's a good idea to take the time to properly understand what TOE's use what tank types, and where there is scope for to optimize. The specific advice I'd give on this is to not worry about what the "best" tank model is and instead to focus on getting as much onto the board as possible. A Sherman may be substantially better than a Stuart, but for your average IJ infantryman they're both effectively King Tigers.

rustysi, as mentioned by mind_messing, Ramree Island is the Rangoon-of-the-poor-man. I can't credibly capture (let alone hold) Rangoon anytime soon, but I can caputre Ramree Island and recapture or keep N-E Burma. Now, there is the entire area in central Burma to be taken as well, yes, but it's still a more feasbile undertaking than thinking at Rangoon.

I don't think that capturing central Burma entails automatically a caputre of Rangoon. My opinion is that the Japanese player can establish a solid position around Rangoon and the bad terrain around it a keep the position for a very long time. My perspective is that I cannot contest such a position until much later in the game, while I can try to force a re-capture of central Burma relatively early one. By then, Ramree Island with its lvl3 port is a decent entry-point for supplies, which hopefully will keep China in the war.

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Just remember this, the Allied infantry forces and especially the under-trained Indian forces are not very capable except for certain units.

The armoured units, when trained, are very useful and especially so when paired with good artillery units.

I know RJ, but what can I do? I do believe I can use them well in defensive prepared positions backed by support units (ART/ARM/etcetc).

ARM is going to be my reserve in the Indian Theater. My plan is to position ARM units so that they can counterattack the plains between Calcutta and Ledo, should he land in Chittagong area.

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

This is gold, just like many other very precise and useful suggestions you always make. Thanks. I've put the garrison device on stockpile immediately this morning.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 1:10:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

*** Garrison Device *** Immediately, go into Industry screen and click "Y" on this device to stockpile. If not any static LCU that is forced to retreat will the turn or two afterwards, suck up one of these devices and plant that LCU in some clear terrain hex that you don't want to defend. Some of those static LCUs can have some very useful and nasty artillery once mobile.

As a more general addition on this, overall you will want to keep ironclad control over Allied devices.

Squad devices are a particular pressure point, especially for aforementioned Australian CMF/AIF upgrades but also PIAT and Vickers more generally.

Tanks are a whole different kettle of fish. It's a good idea to take the time to properly understand what TOE's use what tank types, and where there is scope for to optimize. The specific advice I'd give on this is to not worry about what the "best" tank model is and instead to focus on getting as much onto the board as possible. A Sherman may be substantially better than a Stuart, but for your average IJ infantryman they're both effectively King Tigers.

I am digging a little bit more into the topic of allied devices/squads right now.
My understanding as inveterate Japanese player is that the Allies should brutally exploit their tanks until the last one gets blown up rather than upgrading to better ones immediately once available. I think the Valentine => Grant/Lee comes to mind but I might be wrong on the specific model.

In general, I am not fully grasping the entire InfSquads upgrades. I know for example that CMF/AIF squads can and should be upgraded, but how do I do that? IIRC there was the possibility to upgrade all the CMF to AIF with a relatively small pool of AIF.
If I'm not mistaken I should stockpile AIF squads until I have enough to upgrade a full division. Then, I just let every single division upgrade individually to the new standard and in few weeks/months all my Australian boys are no longer deseperate militia-men but rather furious AIF squads.
Am I missing something of the process?

Also, how do you approach replacements of Chinese InfSquads? Currently, I am stockipiling them and giving the Chinese just support units so that they "repair" more easily the infinite list of disablements they start with.
My intention is to stop any reinforcement to Chinese units as soon as I have few Chinese units in Calcutta and then turn just those on and let them fill up with infantry squads.
Is is a good approach to Chinese replacements?

Last, but not least, I am channelling all the British available replacements into the units defending Singapore. Am I doing something mad? To me, it looks like there aren't enough replacements in the pool to beef up troops in India and I want to have the highest possible AV count in Singapore before Omar crosses the strait. Since Indians&co are still repairing their infinite amount of disablements, I deemed reasonable to channel all the available infantry in Singapore.
What do you thing about this?

My general understanding about Allied pools is that you have to play with "no replacements" and stock as much as you can. Then, when you want a specific unit to have specific devices/squads, you "release" the equipment from the pool and accept replacements specifically for that unit.
Also, I am now thinking that it might be better to actually focus on few units per time and have them with a high TOE percentage, rather than giving little to everyone. Initial allied units are very squishy and I believe it's better to have a 400AV division with full TOE than 2 half-TOE divisions.
Generally speaking (there are always exceptions!), am I wrong in my current practice?

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 2:50:12 PM

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I am digging a little bit more into the topic of allied devices/squads right now.
My understanding as inveterate Japanese player is that the Allies should brutally exploit their tanks until the last one gets blown up rather than upgrading to better ones immediately once available. I think the Valentine => Grant/Lee comes to mind but I might be wrong on the specific model.

Correct.

Also never sent replacements or upgrades to LCU's that will withdraw. They'll happily take it off to Europe and you'll never see it again.

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In general, I am not fully grasping the entire InfSquads upgrades. I know for example that CMF/AIF squads can and should be upgraded, but how do I do that? IIRC there was the possibility to upgrade all the CMF to AIF with a relatively small pool of AIF.
If I'm not mistaken I should stockpile AIF squads until I have enough to upgrade a full division. Then, I just let every single division upgrade individually to the new standard and in few weeks/months all my Australian boys are no longer deseperate militia-men but rather furious AIF squads.
Am I missing something of the process?

I think Lowpe goes in to detail in his AAR.

The essence of it is that you divide your Australian divisions into A/B/C components and stockpile the squads until you have enough to upgrade a full component. Because of how the rules work, if you upgrade 100 militia to inf squads, those 100 militia go back to the pools and get upgraded to inf squad there. So over several turns you can sequentially upgrade units.

The AIF upgrade is slightly trickier as those squads are much more scarce. It's been a while since I checked but IIRC you may need to disband some units to get it in a timely manner.

Note that Australian squads have a very low replacement rate, so take care if using them widely.

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Also, how do you approach replacements of Chinese InfSquads? Currently, I am stockipiling them and giving the Chinese just support units so that they "repair" more easily the infinite list of disablements they start with.
My intention is to stop any reinforcement to Chinese units as soon as I have few Chinese units in Calcutta and then turn just those on and let them fill up with infantry squads.
Is is a good approach to Chinese replacements?

Not in my opinion.

Chinese inf squads have a massively high built rate, something like 10 squads/day (that then doubles come 1943).

You want those to be getting on to the map ASAP, preferably into high AV units with good leaders. I turn on the replacement taps to units that are going to be defending key positions over the course of 1942.

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Last, but not least, I am channelling all the British available replacements into the units defending Singapore. Am I doing something mad? To me, it looks like there aren't enough replacements in the pool to beef up troops in India and I want to have the highest possible AV count in Singapore before Omar crosses the strait. Since Indians&co are still repairing their infinite amount of disablements, I deemed reasonable to channel all the available infantry in Singapore.
What do you thing about this?

This is a mistake.

It will not influence the fate of Singapore in any substantial way, and the British and Commonwealth devices are some of the biggest pinch points for the Allies generally.

The British Inf squads you will need to keep around so that the British divisions (which will form some of your few combat effective formations in this region in 1942) can face sustained combat.

It is vital to note that a large number of the Indian divisions have British squads as part of their TOE, so British squads are also needed to enable these formations to keep a healthy TOE.

Over time more British Inf squads will be freed by TOE upgrades in Indian LCU's, but that is a concern for 1943. See page 313 of the manual for further info.

The Indian Inf squads you will need to fill out the divisions already in India.

Then there's the shared Commonwealth pool, which is anything from Bren and Vickers squads (both key components in a units firepower) to the 3 inch mortars, up to 25 pounder guns. This is the real pinch point, as they're used in British, Indian, Australian and New Zealand units so there is far more demand for these devices than will be met.

What's needed is a very tight control over what you get as replacement and via convoys, and appropriate assignment of the devices to formations that can take full advantage of it.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 3:37:17 PM

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Correct.

Also never sent replacements or upgrades to LCU's that will withdraw. They'll happily take it off to Europe and you'll never see it again.

Clear.

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I think Lowpe goes in to detail in his AAR.

The essence of it is that you divide your Australian divisions into A/B/C components and stockpile the squads until you have enough to upgrade a full component. Because of how the rules work, if you upgrade 100 militia to inf squads, those 100 militia go back to the pools and get upgraded to inf squad there. So over several turns you can sequentially upgrade units.

The AIF upgrade is slightly trickier as those squads are much more scarce. It's been a while since I checked but IIRC you may need to disband some units to get it in a timely manner.

Note that Australian squads have a very low replacement rate, so take care if using them widely.

I'll have a look there then. Currently, I'm mostly repairing australian disablements and sending replacements to the 1st Australian Division. Don't have much in the pool for anything else.

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Not in my opinion.

Chinese inf squads have a massively high built rate, something like 10 squads/day (that then doubles come 1943).

You want those to be getting on to the map ASAP, preferably into high AV units with good leaders. I turn on the replacement taps to units that are going to be defending key positions over the course of 1942.

My problem is supply consumption, rather than squad replacement rate. Moreover, if you consider just 4 Chinese Corps in India, it's well over 3,300 squads. Even if some are already in the TOE of the units, it's still a massive effort even with the 350/squads per-month Chinese replacement rate.

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This is a mistake.

It will not influence the fate of Singapore in any substantial way, and the British and Commonwealth devices are some of the biggest pinch points for the Allies generally.

The British Inf squads you will need to keep around so that the British divisions (which will form some of your few combat effective formations in this region in 1942) can face sustained combat.

It is vital to note that a large number of the Indian divisions have British squads as part of their TOE, so British squads are also needed to enable these formations to keep a healthy TOE.

Over time more British Inf squads will be freed by TOE upgrades in Indian LCU's, but that is a concern for 1943. See page 313 of the manual for further info.

The Indian Inf squads you will need to fill out the divisions already in India.

Then there's the shared Commonwealth pool, which is anything from Bren and Vickers squads (both key components in a units firepower) to the 3 inch mortars, up to 25 pounder guns. This is the real pinch point, as they're used in British, Indian, Australian and New Zealand units so there is far more demand for these devices than will be met.

What's needed is a very tight control over what you get as replacement and via convoys, and appropriate assignment of the devices to formations that can take full advantage of it.

More than inf squads, I'm concerned by the pool of commonwealth devices, which looks bleak for basically the entire match. I'm a little bit less concerned about the troops in India, since the units in Singapore don't absorb so many squads in the end. The biggest deal is represented by the devices.
My target is to reach 1,000AV behind forts lvl4 in Singapore. Currently, I am at 750AV circa with another good 50 which will be repaired in a reasonable time. Other 150AV will come from troops being currently airlifted from the few bases still in my possession in Malaya. I plan to put a good 50-100AV of replacements in Singapore before shutting off the replacements.
The idea is that they cannot stop the Japanese hordes, but I'd like to embroil him in a traditional siege rather than a swift conquest.

I have no idea of his current disposition. He has a little bit more than 2 division worth of AV (various regiments which start divided at 7th DEC) in Celebes/Moluccas area and Aleutinians.
Some more have captured Wake/Rabaul.
Then there is the 33rd Division near Tavoy.
Finally, the stack in Luzon I haven't checked yet.

In a very optimistic scenario, I have 8-9 IJA Division around. If he has split them in a roughly equal manner between Luzon and Malaya, I face around 2,000AV. Now, it's not really likely I can defend Singapore with 1,000AV against Omar's 2,000AV, but I hope the base won't simply crumble at the river crossing and I can inflict sufficient losses to make it a a little bit slower than otherwise.
My main target is to offer a little bit more than a token resistance in the base. Honestly, I don't know how he has divided his forces between Singapore and Luzon. In any case, resisting until mid-January would be a completely different thing than resisting until the 1st of December. Given my current situation, two weeks there change a lot.

In the meanwhile, he's reinforcing his SoPac expeditionary force. I have literally zero information from NavS, but I have picked up an interesting "heavy traffic" here:

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 4:02:18 PM

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I'll have a look there then. Currently, I'm mostly repairing australian disablements and sending replacements to the 1st Australian Division. Don't have much in the pool for anything else.

Yeah, priority there is getting the squad upgrades chained together so that they're able to quickly get up to AIF '42 squads when they come online in Feb '42. It's not a massive improvement over the CMF inf, but is substantially better than the CMF militia.

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My problem is supply consumption, rather than squad replacement rate. Moreover, if you consider just 4 Chinese Corps in India, it's well over 3,300 squads. Even if some are already in the TOE of the units, it's still a massive effort even with the 350/squads per-month Chinese replacement rate.

There are substantial bottlenecks in taking replacements.

Even with 10 Chinese units, you will have squads sitting idle in the pools as you will be producing replacements faster than your units have the ability to draw them.

Supply consumption in China is an issue, but you can manage it carefully to be able to resist effectively. In my view, the existing on-map supply surplus (and subsequent supply from the Burma + Burma road supply) should be used to draw as many replacements in to Chinese units in China as possible. Those units should then subsist as far as is possible of local supply sources.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 5:14:48 PM

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I'll have a look there then. Currently, I'm mostly repairing australian disablements and sending replacements to the 1st Australian Division. Don't have much in the pool for anything else.

Yeah, priority there is getting the squad upgrades chained together so that they're able to quickly get up to AIF '42 squads when they come online in Feb '42. It's not a massive improvement over the CMF inf, but is substantially better than the CMF militia.

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My problem is supply consumption, rather than squad replacement rate. Moreover, if you consider just 4 Chinese Corps in India, it's well over 3,300 squads. Even if some are already in the TOE of the units, it's still a massive effort even with the 350/squads per-month Chinese replacement rate.

There are substantial bottlenecks in taking replacements.

Even with 10 Chinese units, you will have squads sitting idle in the pools as you will be producing replacements faster than your units have the ability to draw them.

Supply consumption in China is an issue, but you can manage it carefully to be able to resist effectively. In my view, the existing on-map supply surplus (and subsequent supply from the Burma + Burma road supply) should be used to draw as many replacements in to Chinese units in China as possible. Those units should then subsist as far as is possible of local supply sources.

Australian squads: it's a rather big improvement and I need it ASAP in front-line divisions.

Chinese squads: I will have 14 units taking replacements in Calcutta&co. 3 Chinese Corps (A/B/C) and the odd 5th Chinese Corps which starts splitted into 5 sub-units. 3*3+5=14.
If you add two Chinese Corps in mainland China taking replacements, it's precisely 20 LCUs taking them. Not little in the end.

As for subsisting on local supply sources... Well, we do what we can

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 5:28:05 PM

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Indian and other low experienced units can defend with support but probably not alone against a decent attacking force, but don't try to attack with them, I would turn off replacements to them until their experience and morale improves. Having them defend especially while heavily fortified is a great way to increase their experience. Check to see how high they can go with just training and the start giving those trained units replacement. But remember, there are dies rolls to be considered and some of them are for experience and morale so when those are low the units will not defend at full strength.

Those low morale and low experience Burmese units will make good garrison forces. Later on those upgrade to Indian '44 squads as well as those Indian militia squads. So don't waste those units needlessly. Even the ones that withdraw should send their squads to the inventory.

If you look at those CD units that come into Cape Town and later at Aden, you will see that some have Commonwealth devices that willgo into the pools.

Use the Matildas for the Australians, those are more than sufficient against the Japanese infantry with no AT guns. For the Australians, upgrade the battalions that don't disappear first since you can do those quicker.

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We have a problem.

Railway teleport thing.

I remember I've seen it in Obvert vs Canoerebel late in the game in central China.

Does a solution exist for it?

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Chinese squads: I will have 14 units taking replacements in Calcutta&co. 3 Chinese Corps (A/B/C) and the odd 5th Chinese Corps which starts splitted into 5 sub-units. 3*3+5=14.
If you add two Chinese Corps in mainland China taking replacements, it's precisely 20 LCUs taking them. Not little in the end.

You are making the (large) assumption that units will be in a position to take replacements every turn.

That might be likely in an environment where you can generate many of the requirements for replacements to be drawn, but much less so closer to the frontlines (and even with a perfect environment, there is still the poor admin ratings of Chinese leaders to be considerate off.

I am doubtful that you will have enough throughput with 20 LCU's to effectively draw down the Chinese squad pool over the long term.

I suggest you revisit your handling of Chinese LCU's in general. Revisiting the section on the manual on the special rules regarding Chinese units will be a good place to start.

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Chinese squads: I will have 14 units taking replacements in Calcutta&co. 3 Chinese Corps (A/B/C) and the odd 5th Chinese Corps which starts splitted into 5 sub-units. 3*3+5=14.
If you add two Chinese Corps in mainland China taking replacements, it's precisely 20 LCUs taking them. Not little in the end.

You are making the (large) assumption that units will be in a position to take replacements every turn.

That might be likely in an environment where you can generate many of the requirements for replacements to be drawn, but much less so closer to the frontlines (and even with a perfect environment, there is still the poor admin ratings of Chinese leaders to be considerate off.

I am doubtful that you will have enough throughput with 20 LCU's to effectively draw down the Chinese squad pool over the long term.

Long term? I'm talking about the very next couple of months maximum!

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing
I suggest you revisit your handling of Chinese LCU's in general. Revisiting the section on the manual on the special rules regarding Chinese units will be a good place to start.

Can you please tell me what do you mean by that? I guess my understanding of the Chinese special rules is clear, what I'd like to understand is why you are pointing me there.

Maybe I've not grasped something you expressed?

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ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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Chinese squads: I will have 14 units taking replacements in Calcutta&co. 3 Chinese Corps (A/B/C) and the odd 5th Chinese Corps which starts splitted into 5 sub-units. 3*3+5=14.
If you add two Chinese Corps in mainland China taking replacements, it's precisely 20 LCUs taking them. Not little in the end.

You are making the (large) assumption that units will be in a position to take replacements every turn.

That might be likely in an environment where you can generate many of the requirements for replacements to be drawn, but much less so closer to the frontlines (and even with a perfect environment, there is still the poor admin ratings of Chinese leaders to be considerate off.

I am doubtful that you will have enough throughput with 20 LCU's to effectively draw down the Chinese squad pool over the long term.

Long term? I'm talking about the very next couple of months maximum!

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing
I suggest you revisit your handling of Chinese LCU's in general. Revisiting the section on the manual on the special rules regarding Chinese units will be a good place to start.

Can you please tell me what do you mean by that? I guess my understanding of the Chinese special rules is clear, what I'd like to understand is why you are pointing me there.

Maybe I've not grasped something you expressed?

Chinese squad production will be X

The ability for Chinese units to draw replacements will be Y

With what you are proposing, I think that X will be substantially greater than Y, it will build a surplus over time and you will struggle to draw it down.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/8/2021 6:51:34 PM

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Aussie Inf - start off with their highest replacement rate and steadily go down every year (more or less).

Indian Inf - start off low and keep ramping up as the war goes on.

CW devices go to Aussie, NZ, Indian, and Brit troops. This will be your biggest micro-management job with LCUs for the whole war.

Poor experience and morale at start LCU like the Indian, Aussie, and NZ troops need a few things. They need better leaders but you have so many needs and so few PPs. Next you either keep or reset the base they are prepping for. As both the morale and experience levels will not go up much until their prep hits 100 or goes through some bloody battles.

Things to monitor -
Air groups will be going away to Europe at a high pace early in war. You will want to "withdraw" most, but after you have put the pilots into "reserve" so there are none left. Some of the leaders can be withdrawn. Sometimes the planes stay and go into the pool, but not always. You get 5 P-40E groups in mid-Jan '42 mainly at Brisbane for 60 days. When they withdraw in mid-March, the planes go into the pool so you will get about 100 plane bump.

These groups spending lots of their time pilot training as their skill level suck.

You have to withdraw ships, but "IF" you miss the deadlines, there is a PP cost until you are able to do so. Most Allied players have learned to watch this closely as a heavily damaged ship that cannot make it to a country's main base or a large enough off-base port will cost you PPs day after day. Lots of horror stories to tell about this from my fellow posters.

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Aussie Inf - start off with their highest replacement rate and steadily go down every year (more or less).

Aussies are indeed a problem. In mid-44 I'm disbanding some divisions due to the absence of replacements in the future (well... If the game drags into 1950s maybe I'll have enough...

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I guess my best bet is to try to conserve them as much as possible and employ them mostly on the defensive, channelling the few replacements in the few veteran units available, which will take the brunt of the offensive fights done by Australians in this war.

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Indian Inf - start off low and keep ramping up as the war goes on.

Poor experience and morale at start LCU like the Indian, Aussie, and NZ troops need a few things. They need better leaders but you have so many needs and so few PPs. Next you either keep or reset the base they are prepping for. As both the morale and experience levels will not go up much until their prep hits 100 or goes through some bloody battles.

Indians are not a big problem if you are not defending India. At that point, youare in troubles. My belief is that the crippling element of Indian armies is the lack of all the support devices which are not InfSquads.

The main problem is indians. They have a fairly large army and a good future replacement rate. However, their awful experience and leaders, make them suited for static defense only in the current situation. I hope I can find a way to employ them together with crack units so that they can achieve "easy" victories and ramp up the experience levels.
For the time being, however, they will defend relevant targets and that's it.

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Things to monitor -
Air groups will be going away to Europe at a high pace early in war. You will want to "withdraw" most, but after you have put the pilots into "reserve" so there are none left. Some of the leaders can be withdrawn. Sometimes the planes stay and go into the pool, but not always. You get 5 P-40E groups in mid-Jan '42 mainly at Brisbane for 60 days. When they withdraw in mid-March, the planes go into the pool so you will get about 100 plane bump. These groups spending lots of their time pilot training as their skill level suck.

As Japanese, I love those groups. So many free kills for my experten

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You have to withdraw ships, but "IF" you miss the deadlines, there is a PP cost until you are able to do so. Most Allied players have learned to watch this closely as a heavily damaged ship that cannot make it to a country's main base or a large enough off-base port will cost you PPs day after day. Lots of horror stories to tell about this from my fellow posters.

I would need to dig, but I remember that in the epic Greyjoy vs Rader match he went in negative for thousands of PPs

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Now the situation is getting dodgy.

Very dodgy.

These TFs appeared last turn. Does he want to land on Java?!?! It would seem bizarre to me, given that he hasn't touched the islands' aviation or AFs.

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I can muster very little for the defense of Java, incidentally.

Naval forces:
-Dutch and surviving US subs are currently heading towards Soerabaja. 8 there tomorrow (plus 3 in the shipyard with minor repairs being done).
-CVL Hermes in Tjilatjap with her wonderful 12 Swordfish
-Repulse and Prince of Wales in Soerabaja with full ammo and fuel
-6xCL in Soerabaja (ready for action)
-8xDD in Soerabaja (ready for action)
-2xCA+1xCL+5xDD in Pantar (tomorrow in Soerabaja in full speed)

I still have in the area considerable good airforce for my standards, so I suspect he doesn't want to engage Java right now. But who knows?

I can muster an unknown amount of fighters (have to check throughly - I guess roughly 80, mostly Dutch), 30 TBs and 18 Vindicator. Plus many random Dutch bombers and some surviving RAF one.

What do you think about those TFs? There are apparently CAs and DDs in the other ones seen, no cargoes spotted but I'm quite sure he's trying to land somewhere.

My perspective is to do nothing. If he lands in Palembang, I will challenge with my B17s. If he approaches Java (he's 15hexes away right now), I should have one more turn before he lands (the CVE there is probably the Tahiyo which makes 6/4hexes).

I'm quite puzzled. It might also be that he's looking for a reaction from my side.

Last turn I lost many planes on Singers (it didn't go bad - see below), where I decided for the first time to oppose a CAP to the Japanese raids, so now I'm undrestrength in terms of escorting fighters.
Not that the allies are ever anything different than understrength in this theater in this period.....

EDIT: There is another interesting possible explanation. He wants to drag my airforce with a fake threat and bomb the s@it out of Soerabaja where he knows I've sent the Force Z. Force Z, which would be without air cover. Well, actually it doesn't air cover even now.
I don't find this option totally foolish: he doesn't seem like he would do a relatively forward invasion such as Java so early. Moreover, he has a strong preference for making huge amphTFs, while here I don't see any of them.

I think those TFs are some kind of bait, but I don't grasp what he's doing.

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18-21 DECEMBER 1941
TURN 12-15

I. NOPAC

Nothing has happened over here.

II. CENPAC

Some days ago, I sent various TFs out of PH in order to reinforce and resupply bases around. KB turns back and goes in the middle of my TFs, but he has very bad weather. I lose a xAK only due to a small (14) Val strike.

My bases are still astonishingly empty of supplies and defenders. KB is sailing toward the SOPAC area.

EDIT: I'm currently reinforcing Johnston Island (landing a Marine Defence Battalion tomorrow) and Canton Island is receiving another Marine Defence Battalion in few days (and supplies). Christmas Island, Pago Pago and Palmyra are still to be reinforced (no ships, no troops, no hope).
In SoPac, I've lost any hope for Noumea and Suva: I think I won't reinforce them, given the lack of time, PPs and the foolishness of sending precious Australian troops in the area.

III. SOPAC

KB arrives on the 21st of December 2 hexes SOUTH-WEST of Baker Island. Route indicated is "WEST", which is straight to Tulagi.
There are 9xDDs 2 hexes SOUTH-WEST of Shortlands, where he landed today.

My forces are small and scattered, but the USN can muster 2xCVs+11xCAs+22xDDs in Townsville area. Other DDs are coming from PH.

I haven't reinforced Noumea, something I might pay badly in case he lands with token forces.

IV. DEI

Last turn, he landed in Legaspi and he's sending reinforcements to Aparri, where he landed days ago.

Japanese troops in Luzon, however, are not moving. He seems quite static. I have no idea of his strength, but I am fascinated by the idea of a massed counter-attack on his position SOUTH-WEST of Aparri. I don't think it would end prositively, but it would be very glorious.

Last turn (21-DEC-41) he landed also in Davao, probably with token forces.

He also conquered various minor bases on the northeastern tip of Borneo (Beaufort, Jesselton, etcetc). I don't understand his logic, but fair enough.

The TFs spotted yesterday have remained precisely where I left them, one hex WEST of Groote Natoena. Probably he wants to absorb my airstrikes on his combat TFs covered by a CVE so that I remain without planes for the real landings.
Provided there will be any.

Given the bizarre composition of his TFs at Groote Natoena, I decided yesterday that it was a feint and I started moving my airforces and ships in shouthestern Java, thinking that he might very well try a coup de main in Timor.
US CVs will be there in a couple of days as well. A force of 2xCA+1xCL+8xDDs is currenty there and Force Z is still in Soerabaja area. Last turn, I moved it to Malang, thinking that the apparition of his TFs at Groote Natonea could be a trick to make me move my planes and then strike Soerabaja harbor, where he guesses Force Z is hiding.

(see below for an image of the area)

Situation in Malaya is desperate instead. Singapore has roughly 800AV behind forts lvl3 and it's unlikely I'll have much more for the time he will attack the place. If I'm lucky, I can muster 850AV, but for sure I cannot reach forts lvl4: without air bombing, I do +5% circa per-day to the forts and I'm now at 7% of lvl4... No way I can reach it: I'll need to do with the current lvl3.

V. CBI

Here the situation is very very complex. In China he's overwhelming my forces everywhere around Sian sector.
There is a Japanese flying column of 1,000AV (2 InfDiv + 1 IndMixedBDE + 2xARM + 1xART) coming straight from the EAST and it's going to be a mess in few turns.
Another column of 650AV is exploiting the Ankang-gap and marchin NORTH. Nothing can stop them.
I have however circa 4,800AV in the whole sector, so I plan to offer an active resistence. The two roads SOUTH of Sian are defended by 1,000AV each and Sian itself is defended by over 1,700AV. AT guns are slowly marching from Chungking and it's unlikely they'll arrive on time.

Changsha sector looks quite fine, also.

SOUTH-EAST is somewhat a low-intensity fight. I've repulsed a Japanese offensive on Chuhsien and almost encircled the enemy units inside it, but Omar withdrew on time.
My attempt to capture Chaochow has failed, though.

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VI. OTHER

Logistical situation is still desperate and I've made little to no progress in organizing proper convoys. My idea is to ship as much as I can as soon as I can to Australia and start organizing proper convoys over time. Omar has many subs around the West Coast and PH. They've sunk a AK few turns ago and today they attacked the Queen Elizabeth (escorted by 4xKVs).
American planes currently totally ineffective. ASW patrols ineffective. Praying is moderately effective instead.

Chinese replacement pool of InfSquads went down of 42 today, when I stopped the stockpiling of squads. Interesting. I have intentionally put many units on rest accepting replacements in Changsha, Sian and Chungking. Plus, of course, the ones already in Calcutta.

In all this madness, Saratoga will be in Cape Town in few days, being thus able to join my other two CVs coming from Townsville. I plan to establish some kind of refuel and gathering area in either Cocos Island or Christmas Island IO.

Situation in southeastern DEI:

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I am not sure it is a good idea to escort QE with KVs. You sacrifice her speed when you do so and the KVs are not yet up to the crew experience needed to counter IJN subs.

QE cruises at something like 30 knots so sub interception is rare, and usually in the approaches to ports. DD/DE escorts for the 8 hexes or so out of port or into port should be sufficient and not slow her down much.

Personally, I dislike the Queens because of their enormous size (needing a large port to dock) and tendency to accumulate a lot of system damage on map (thanks to their high speed). Their loss on map also hands Japan a nice bundle of VPs. I use them between ECUSA and Cape Town, moving troops when needed and moving supply at other times - all at no risk from IJN subs! I have plenty of other fast xAPs to move troops in transport mode on map.

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RE: Insanity. Obscenity. Indecency. ITAKLinus (A) vs De... - 8/9/2021 9:01:03 PM

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Commonwealth devices are in short supply across the game at least some are

A few recommendations

1. Turn on stockpile for Indian 42 Squads, 2 pounder A/t guns, 25 pounders, all Cw combat engineer squads, NZ and AIF, AIF 42 inf squads, 3 inch mortars, Bren and vickers sections, Matilda, m3 grant, Valentine lll lee/grant tanks and all armoured cars you want to control where these devices go

2. These devices are in short supply so don�t waste them for non strategic purposes

3.:units with less than 25xp are very very vulnerable to surrendering when attacked so if you think they are going to get attacked give them a better leader until their xp improves

4. Disbandment are you friend - look for Bde and Bn sized units that don�t have a pre set withdrawal dates these units can be sent to Vancouver/ Auckland/Sydney or Delhi and disbanded if part of an unrestricted HQ adding all active devices to pool

5. Targeted disnadments such as one of the 40 series Indian bdes ie 43 44 or 45 can add 108 Indian 42 squads to pool in one lump and can be used to upgrade squads of multiple divisions as these are bdes and not bde groups it�s not going to solve all issues but it helps

1. Aus armoured regiments have some Bren sections that they lose when they upgrade wait until the upgrade and you will get them into the Poole

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AIF inf sections and CMF inf sections should be your priority in Australia NO Australian Div or Bde should be sent overseas with CMF militia sections they are simply not fit for combat

Personally I look to disband a Bn or Bde in Australia with CMF sections ie 30th Bde and any of the MG Bns I can to kick start the process unfortunately a lot of the light horse bns have disband dates so you need to wait for those

The upgrade paths from memory as I am on holiday are

CMF militia / Aus Mtd Inf to CMF Inf to AIF 42
AIF to AIF 42

Ideally I would wait for AIF or AIF 42 Sections but you may not have that luxury in which case you could maybe deploy 1 Div withmCMF sections if properly supported with Vickers sections

The early Aus divs need lots of vickers sections until they upgrade so be careful

Also 25 pounders are in short supply do not do not do not allow all unitsmusing 18 pounders to upgrade - better to have 3 divs with 25 pounders and 2 with 18 pounders than 5 under strength with 25 pounders 18 pounders are ok and you don�t want them sitting in your pools unused while your Divs are short of arty

Be really careful with 6 pounders AT guns as well you don�t need them but once a unit upgrades it cannot go back basically set them to stockpile and ignore them

Personally I look fornArty units with 2 pounders or 25 pounders that I can disband to provide pool depth in the early going

I also turn off replacements and upgrades for Canadian and NZ units initially until I know what I am do8ng

Hell I turn off replacements and upgrades for all CW units until I am sure of what I want to do

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Burmese and Malay Bns and Bdes are very weak but late in the war you will have surplus Indian 44 inf sections so these units can be useful for LOC garrison forces to meet garrison requirements

Armour

Australians gave their own upgrade matillda2 to M3 Grant you want to use both so again be careful not to upgrade every unit as you don�t want to be short and have tanks in pools

Stuart�s are shared by Aus and India so be careful of those

BritishIndian/NZ share the improvised to vickers to Valentine Iii to Sherman V although a lot of NZ armoured regts start with armoured cars and upgrade

Personally I concentrate on getting Aus 3rd Motor Bde combat effective ASAP, recombine 17th Indian Div and 1st Burma Div and get them combat effective ASAP that�s my 1st priority also getting a few 3.7 inch AA regts to support burcrps as I assume I will not have air superiority and neither div is sel protecting in AA

2nd priority is get the bird Bns and any Bns with good devices disbanded to pools

3rd priority probably one of the CMF Dive try to get combat effective so max vickers squads and arty and upgrade infantry try not to commit it unless you really have to

Device pool ,management for the allies is key

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For defence properly constituted and supported Divs are a luxury and In a pinch 300 CMF militia squads with no arty Mg�s or AT guns will do ok behind level 3+ forts IN AUS for a few days against a Jap Div or 2 but take that same 300 militia sections to PM or Lunga where Japanese AirPower and surface bombardments can get them then they are toast and once than manpower is lost it is very difficult to replace if not impossible

In India historically 18th British; 9th Indian, 11th Indian were destroyed and never resurrected 1st Burma and 14th Indian were reduced to cadre and used as training Divs and it wasn�t until 44 that Indian Armour became decisive

5th 7th 17th 19TH 20th 21st 23rd 25th 26th 36th 2nd Brit the 3 African Divs and the Chindits so that 15 Div equivalents (plus some odds and ends I haven�t mentioned) so add the 5 destroyed or cadre Divs to your force above and that�s a 1/3 increase in you deplloyable offensive force so well worth taking a little care

With carefull management

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22-23 DECEMBER 1941
TURN 16-17

I. NOPAC

No news here.

II. CENPAC

I manage to start the resupplying efforts in Johnston Island, Christmas Island and Plamyra. Pago Pago still far away.

An enemy TF with 6 xAKs appears one hex away from Canton Island, where I have a scared and undersupplied ENG unit. I'd better start writing the telegrams for the families, since those guys won't see Christmas.

III. SOPAC

KB was still 2 hexes S-W of Baker Island on the 22nd and I lost trace of it on the 23rd. My NavS is abysmal and I will (finally!) have the first AVDs deployed tomorrow. It looks like he's decending from the Giblerts.
My Catalinas in Ontong Java have spotted various ships moving around but I generally lose trace of them after one turn. I have 2 CAs disbanded in Rennel Island and I might make them intervene.
An Australian CL is reaching the Lousiades today and it will be disbanded there. CL Perth has rearmed in Townsville and is going to close the spot between Rennel and the Lousiade.
The 2 NZ CLs starting in NZ have patrolled the area between NZ and Taithi, looking for the Japanese AMCs. Nothing has been found. I'll send them in Suva in order to provide some minimal cover to the sector.

I have a good chunk of troops sailing to Noumea, but I'll withdraw them tomorrow, since they would need up to five days to reach the destination and I don't have those 5 days (KB might be there tomorrow, accordingly to my calculations).

IV. DEI

The big scandal. I messed up and Omar has moved for real against Palembang. I don't fully grasp this move for various reasons, including the fact he has left behind the other OIL wells (expect Brunei, which has been blown up quite much) and now he lands in the big base.

I have nothing to oppose. He has landed 375AV against my 130AV and my troops won't last a day. What's bad is that I don't have an AF=5 in the area: Singapore is still with 0% damage but it's too risky for my B17s.
B17s which are currently in Calcutta. They're something like 40 plus various to be repaired. Not a strong force, but it can put a dent in Palembang wells... Hopefully.

In all this, I have sent various random sweeps in Malaya and bombed Malacca, which netted me few Buffaloes shot down by A6M2s and some Nell/Betty destroyed on the runaways.

USN CVs Enterprise and Saratoga reached Darwin today. I think I will refuel them here (it will take a couple of turns I suppose) and then send them WEST of Java, cruising for opportunities.
In the meanwhile, I try to have a look at possible ways to smash down Palembang. I'll have a better picture once he takes the place.

In line of principle, I need to understand whether he will keep heavy surface forces there or not. In case he does, I plan to smash through Japanese CAP with my B17s and various anglo-dutch escorts and then send the carrier strike on his CAs, which aren't that able to digest 1,000lb bombs. At least, I hope his ones won't...

V. CBI

The disaster in China continues. I am losing ground everywhere, but i might be able to retake Ankang (and then lose it again but fair enough).

I am fighint quite well with the flying tigers, doing various ambushes to Omar's bombers. Currently, the three AVG groups have raked 45-3 kills in A-2-A, but they are quite fatigue and I'll need to make pilots and plane rest few turns.

Landing of reinforcements in Ramree Island is going well and I suspect I'll complete the unloading of 2xAA and 2xARM tomorrow. This would be of great help for the fighting in China.

On top of this, some Burmese BFs are crossing now the border with China. My intention is to make them arrive in Chungking and then make them rest there for a while. I am still not sure on where to use them.

VI. OTHER

Nothing new under the sun. Saratoga arrives in 5 days in Cape Town. A-24 Banshees finally arrived at Birsbane but they need some time to be repaired; pilots are awful in any case. I love those Banshee groups in the DEI.

Australia is not really safe (not at all actually). Taithi still empty. CenPac bases are being very slightly reinforced, nothing which can stop a convinced Japanese invasion. India is naked as usual. Burma is with god. Malaya is lost. Java is plenty of Dutch AVs, meaning it's empty. Celyon emptied of fuel/supplies. China is a disaster. NoPac has nothing available to reinforce it (6 xAKL loaded with supplies and 4 yard patrols are all I caoul spare).

BANZAI!

(Here the situation around Palembang. TF N-E of Palembang has 20 fighter on board. TF W of Singkawang has 61 fighters and various auxiliaries on board. CAs everywhere in huge numbers):

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