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KB killed off their pilots? - 9/10/2021 4:31:07 PM

Macquarrie1999

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In my most recent game against the AI the KB decided to attack Pearl Harbor for three days in a row. On the second and third day I was able to get my air force up and absolutely decimated their Kates and Vals (I got quite a few aces sitting at Pearl Harbor now). How much damage do you think this did to the KB with regards to having good pilots? It is December 26th now and I have only seen the KB attack Wake on their way back to I presume Truk so I haven't been able to gauge their strength.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/10/2021 5:16:41 PM

BBfanboy

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The KB will be able to replace their aircraft in a few weeks but those 70-90 skilled pilots cannot be replaced in the PBEM game. The ones brought in to replace them would be skilled in the 50-70 level and more on a par with American pilots. That would mean the US carriers could challenge KB as soon as they had numerical parity in aircraft (discounting the Devastators which should be landed and replaced with fighters or dive bombers).

That said, I don't know if the AI allows the side it controls to replace with similar skilled pilots. It has other built-in workarounds to make up for lack of ability to respond to events in the game, so it could have been given control over pilot stats without going through an entire training program.

I think it would be a good exercise to continue play and see what kind of results KB gets from here on.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/10/2021 6:18:40 PM

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Decimate is Latin and it means to reduce by one tenth. Absolutely decimate means to absolutely reduce by one tenth. Repeatedly decimate would be pretty serious.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/10/2021 8:04:33 PM

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There is a head-to-head mode. You can turn it on and look for both sides. According to the results of the test, I refused to repeat attacks on Pearl Harbor. Low-maneuverable American fighters cope with the elite of Japanese aviation. This is another anti - Japanese gaming scam. Which is a lot in this game.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/10/2021 8:32:33 PM

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I will check what the combat reports told me once I get home from work. Another question, how many extra Betties do the AI get. I have shot down over a hundred of them and they still keep coming. I guess the AI has to make up for how often it sends unescorted bombers against me. The Dutch pilots love when that happens.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 5:57:37 AM

Macquarrie1999

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First day

quote:

[Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 126

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 18 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 43 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 5 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 44 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 8 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 151 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 6 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 11 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 49 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 4 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 22 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 5 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 31 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 5 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 2 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 26 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 6 damaged
O-47A: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 damaged
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DM Ramsay
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 11, and is sunk
CM Oglala
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
AV Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Reid, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Hirondelle
BB California, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AVD Hulbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Farragut, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Torpedo hits 1
SS Dolphin, Bomb hits 1
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
DD Phelps, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AG Aries, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Turkey, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AM Tern, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1
PG Sacramento, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Litchfield, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Selfridge, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Repair Shipyard hits 1
Airbase hits 41
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 92

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
2 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

Training flight from 15th PG/46th PS has been caught up in attack
Magazine explodes on BB West Virginia]

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 6:01:26 AM

Macquarrie1999

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Second Day

quote:

[Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 88 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 34
D3A1 Val x 23

Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 22
P-40B Warhawk x 38
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 12 destroyed, 5 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Litchfield, and is sunk
DD Farragut, and is sunk

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 18000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N2 Kate x 22

Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 4
P-40B Warhawk x 16
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Raid is overhead
4 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on Lihue , at 178,106

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
D3A1 Val x 24

Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 8
P-40B Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 74 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 6:04:31 AM

Macquarrie1999

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Third Day

quote:

[Morning Air attack on TF, near Pearl Harbor at 180,107

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
D3A1 Val x 13

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-36A Mohawk x 12
P-40B Warhawk x 24
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AM Vireo
AM Bobolink, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
15th PG/72nd PS with P-26A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AM Bobolink

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Afternoon Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
B5N2 Kate x 15
D3A1 Val x 27

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-36A Mohawk x 7
P-40B Warhawk x 16
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 14000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val bombing from 17000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 17000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/19th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/44th PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 16000.
Raid is overhead
15th PG/45th PS with P-36A Mohawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Raid is overhead
15th PG/47th PS with P-40B Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 14000.
Raid is overhead
15th PG/72nd PS with P-26A (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 18000.
Raid is overhead
18th PG/78th PS with P-40B Warhawk (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 19000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on Lihue , at 178,106

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
D3A1 Val x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 6:09:25 AM

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Right now the game says the Japanese have lost 55 Kates, 55 Zeroes, and 53 Vals. It is currently December 26th, 1941.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 6:58:00 AM

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Did you take all available undamaged combat vessels and make Surface Combat Task Forces (SCTF or SC TF) to attack the enemy? If you do that, start with a lot of 2-4 DDs TFs with Low Aggression to go in and launch torpedoes, waste enemy torpedoes, and gun ammo then flee? Followed up by any Omaha class CLs, then the heavier Brooklyn/Helena class CLs and CAs with high aggression? Then any relatively undamaged battleships? Somebody did that in a PBEM, sank 3 Japanese CVs and the beginning of the game. The game continued to the bitter end with two changes of command on the Allied side.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 7:57:29 AM

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No, almost every cruiser was damaged, and I didn't want to tangle with any Japanese BBs or CAs with just destroyers or light cruisers. I did send subs, but they didn't shoot. I'm playing against the AI so it is probably good that the AI still has a chance.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 4:04:35 PM

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If you didn't sortie the PT boats you missed a choice opportunity.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 4:38:46 PM

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No cap up on Day one or was the raid before the CAP was up? The reason I ask is I had the KB off of Midway 2 turns ago and have no eyes on now. Between Pearl and the carriers 2 hexes NE I have 210 Fighters in CAP. Wondering if it is enough deterrent. Three of the BBs are not too badly damaged, but will take some time to get them out of repair.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 5:21:33 PM

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You missed a great opportunity for 2 to 4 DDs per TF to run and fire some guns and launch torpedoes. If you got lucky and hit with a torpedo that exploded, it is a long way to Japanese shipyards and if an aircraft carrier is on fire, for some really strange reason they just do not launch aircraft. The IJN also has a lot of difficulties putting fires out.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 5:27:13 PM

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I have historical first turn on so I don't give any orders on the 7th. There was no CAP the first day, all fighters on cap the other days at 60% and layered altitudes.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/11/2021 5:30:35 PM

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I should probably have been more aggressive, but that isn't my play style. I will have to teach myself that.

I have found a CVL North of the Moluccas right now that I am trying to engage, time will tell whether I will be able to sink a carrier soon.

Another CVL decided to attack Midway, I tried to catch it with my carriers but it got away. The CVL did launch a strike without escorts on one of my carriers though, 8 Kates were shot down in a single battle. I like the free training.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/12/2021 12:32:34 AM

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Sorry, did not get this was the Dec 7th turn. Makes sense. Just got my new glasses today, lol

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/14/2021 4:23:43 PM

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Goddang Ryujo

quote:

[/Night Time Surface Combat, near Donggala at 67,97, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsukaze

Allied Ships
CL Durban, Shell hits 1
CL Ceres
CL Caledon, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Alden
DD Edsall

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 65,100, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Shell hits 2
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Hobart, Shell hits 2
CL Dragon
DD Banckert, Shell hits 2
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Thanet
DD Express

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 66,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Colombo, Torpedo hits 1
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Madjene at 64,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 8 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 66,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Encounter

]

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/14/2021 4:33:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Macquarrie1999

Goddamn Ryujo

quote:

[/Night Time Surface Combat, near Donggala at 67,97, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsukaze

Allied Ships
CL Durban, Shell hits 1
CL Ceres
CL Caledon, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Alden
DD Edsall

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 65,100, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Shell hits 2
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Hobart, Shell hits 2
CL Dragon
DD Banckert, Shell hits 2
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Thanet
DD Express

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 66,96

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Colombo, Torpedo hits 1
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Madjene at 64,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 8 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 66,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N2 Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Encounter

]

I suggest that you edit your language.

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RE: KB killed off their pilots? - 9/18/2021 2:51:44 PM

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One thing hitting the target again in the next day can be tricky, if there alot of burning, wreckages, etc. Would be hard to spot it from the air during all that AA fires and fighters trying to intercept them. First day or surprise attack should be fine, as long the weather is favorable.

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