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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 1:54:33 PM

Parel803

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Facility, Generic, Wind Turbine, #887</summary>
<detail>Kindly request to make it possible to initiate them in water, or have a new DB entry for wind turbines in water. Wanna make some of the fields with those in sea, generating false radar echoes.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/191734/eigen-rapport-kustbewoners-039windmolens-verder-op-zee-veel-goedkoper039
http://www.windmolensopzee.nl/
https://wonderfulengineering.com/38-high-def-wind-turbine-pictures-from-around-the-world/
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 2:38:17 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Aleksandrit class (project 12700), Minesweeper, Russian Navy </summary>
<detail>
Lead vessel: Alexander Obukhov (507), commissioned in 2016. Plans to aquire 40 units.
Length 61m, Beam 10m, Draught 2.6m, Full Displ 890t, crew 44
Mono-hull of glass-reinforced plastics
Capable minesweeping equip: OUKT-B, PKT-B, Zhelatin, ShAT-U, Livadia-ME sonar and ROV's (2x K-Ster I-type, 10x K-Ster C-type), AUV's 2x Allister 9-tyoe) and USV's 91x Inspector-Mk2-type).
PAL-N nav radar, MTK-201M3.1 EOTV, Anapa anti-saboteur sonar, Struktura underwater comms, Ruberoid comms.
9K38 IGLA SRSAM, 30mm AK-306 (canb e mounted with GSh-6-30L 6barrel auto gun & SP-520M-2 EO control, MTPU 14.5 MG or 12.7 MG. Mines: EDM, MTPK, PMR serie.
2x M-503M1 diesel engines, 2x rudder props, 2x tranvers thruster. Each engine output 1864kW. Max speed 16,5kts. Range 1680nm at 10 kts. max 10 days endurance.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/project-12700-mine-countermeasures-vessels/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrit-class_minesweeper
https://seawaves.com/?tag=project-12700
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/12700.htm
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/12700-specs.htm
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/05/russian-navy-to-receive-about-30-project-12700-minehunters-through-2050/
https://www.navaltoday.com/2020/01/07/new-project-12700-minesweeper-delivered-to-russian-navy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pC20xPYZM
</evidence>
Note: different sources give variations in fit.
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 4:33:02 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Yantar class (Project 22010), Intelligence ship (AGI), Russian navy</summary>
<detail>
Commissioned 2015 first unt, second unit under construction. Total of two.
Length 107.8, Beam 17.2, Full displ 5736t,
Speed 15kts. Range 8000nm. Endurance 60days. Crew 50
Equip: AS-37/pr.16810"RUS" submersible. ?ARS-600
2x 3400 hp electric motors, 4x 1600 kW diesel generators, 2x 1080 kW diesel generators. 2x Azipods with fixed pitch propellors and 2x bowthruster.
Helopad
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/russian-spy-ship-yantar-loitering-near-trans-atlantic-internet-cables/?fbclid=IwAR23AO74qFmueaL47RxPkjrU7xf5WxbTXypH6-TpKGQVZavY2-e262kBauw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_research_vessel_Yantar
http://russianships.info/eng/support/project_22010.htm
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3115563
https://intelnews.org/tag/yantar-ship/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e64u-KcwNXk
https://www.wikizero.com/en/Russian_intelligence_ship_Yantar
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/16379/russia-scooped-up-wrecks-of-crashed-naval-fighters-off-sea-floor-near-syria
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 5:06:08 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Takuare class (Guardian class), 03, Type (type), Vanuatu</summary>
<detail>In DB #3415 Solomon Islands and #3342 Fiji and #3326 Tonga
Also delivered to Papua New Guinea (Ted Diro P401), https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/papua-new-guinea-commissions-first-guardian-class-patrol-boat
Tuvalu, https://www.naval-technology.com/news/tuvalu-gets-guardian-class-patrol-boat-te-mataili-ii/
Samoa, https://samoaglobalnews.com/samoa-receives-guardian-class-patrol-boat-nafanua-ii/
Palau, https://islandtimes.org/remeliik-ii-catches-chinese-vessel-suspected-of-poaching/
Kiribati, http://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/june/10333-austal-delivers-rks-teanoai-ii-guardian-class-patrol-boat.html
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.naval-technology.com/news/australia-delivers-rvs-takuare-to-vanuatu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian-class_patrol_boat
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 5:33:09 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Vikram class, 33, Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV), Indian Coastguard</summary>
<detail>First commisioned in 2018, 7 in class
Length 97m, Beam 15m, Draught 3.6m, displacement 2140t.
Max speed 26kts, Range 5000nm at 12to14 kts.
30mm CRN91 naval gun, 2x 12.7 MG,
Helicopter
Crew 102
2x diesel 9100 kW, Semt Pielstick 16PA6V280
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/indian-coast-guard-commissions-final-97-m-vikram-class-opv
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/august/10625-indian-coast-guard-commissions-vikram-class-opv-icgs-vigraha.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikram-class_offshore_patrol_vessel_(2017)
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/icgs-vikram-2.htm
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/indigenously-developed-offshore-patrol-vessel-icgs-vikram-commissioned/articleshow/63715877.cms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqFopiI4wdA
https://www.c4defence.com/en/icgs-vikram-commissioned/
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

Data from JFS 2013/2014:
Offshore Patrol Vessel, WPSOH
Displ full 1300t. 74,1 x 11,4 x 3,5mtr.
Speed 22. Range 4200 at 12. Complement 109.
Machinery 2 SEMT pielstick 16 PA6 V 280, 12800 hp(m)(9.41 MW)sustained.
2 shafts; cp props.
1-30mm or 1-40mm/60 Bofors. 2-12.7mm MGs.
Navradar 2x DECCA 1226, I-band.
EO Lynx
1x HAL Chetak

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/9/2021 8:12:14 PM

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An observation but if Hellfire gets a surface to air capability then so should a whole raft of purpose designed Soviet / Russian ATGM and gun launched ATGM which have purpose designed proximity fused fragmentation warheads with a stated design aim of anti helicopter anti low slow aircraft capability. I expect other missiles from elsewhere could also be pressed into surface to air engagements by design or necessity but from the top of my head
9M133F Kornet
9M119M Svir/Refleks
9M120-1F Attaka
9M123 KHRIZANTEMA (Not in DB489)
Plus the Israeli LAHAT 120mm GLGP
Are all anti air capable.
That's without putting my special thinking hat on.
Not a critique of the request just that the speed guidance and manoeuvrability of a lot of these supposedly anti tank missiles do make them dangerous to low slow and non manoeuvring air targets, its not a Hellfire exclusive.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tylerblakebrandon

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Add anti-air capabilities to Hellfire missile</summary>
<detail>Apparently they can target aerial threats and that dual use capability seems to be part of the reason it is used on the M-SHORAD. Seems the Israelis have downed a Lebanese Cessna and an Iranian UAV.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hellfire-ii-missile/
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker-a1/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40311/the-army-has-started-fielding-its-first-new-short-range-air-defense-system-in-decades
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/05/24/israel.plane.02/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-761410,00.html
<evidence>

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hellfire-ii-missile/
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker-a1/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40311/the-army-has-started-fielding-its-first-new-short-range-air-defense-system-in-decades
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/05/24/israel.plane.02/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-761410,00.html

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 8:55:56 AM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Klewang class, Sidenr, Fast Attack Craft Trimaran (type), Indonesian navy</summary>
<detail>I used url's from earlier postes.
Builder North Sea Boats (PT Lundin Industry), Indonesia
Stealth wave-piercing trimaran carbon fast attack craft, Its hull and superstructure were constructed with infused vinyl ester carbon fibre, with its main gun concealed in a stealthy cupola to minimise the overall deflection of radar signals from the vessel.
Second unit KRI Golok (688) launch in 2021. First unit Klewang (625) was destroyed in a fire in 2012 before being commissioned.
Length 62.54, Width 18.7, Height 16.7, Weight 53.1t (Note PT Lundin gives displacement 245t).
Max speed 28kts, cruising speed 16kts.
Type 730 (CHN) 7 barreled 30mm CIWS, C-705 SSM, ?12.7mm gun. Crew 25.
* Different options for SSM are on sites. Compared to the first unit (destroyed) it might be switched to CHN SSM instead of SWE SSM. Sensors are yet unclear if there the same as for the first, destroyed, unit.
</detail>
<evidence>
http://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/august/10583-indonesian-navy-launches-klewang-class-fast-attack-craft-kri-golok-688.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/indonesian-shipyard-launches-replacement-for-klewang-class-trimaran-lost-in-2012-fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIIR_ySFV2M
https://gbp.com.sg/stories/pt-lundin-launches-trimaran-fast-missile-craft-for-indonesian-navy/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/pt-lundin-launches-new-stealth-trimaran-vessel-for-indonesian-navy/
https://www.asiapacificdefensejournal.com/2021/08/indonesia-launches-second-klewang-class.html
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat-world/maritime-security-world/naval/ships-naval/indonesian-navys-second-klewang-class-stealth-trimaran-floated-out/
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/world-naval-forces/asian-navies-vessels-ships-equipment/indonesia/patrol-vessels/766-trimaran-fmpv-63m-fast-missile-patrol-vessel-stealth-composite-indonesia-indonesian-navy-tni-al-north-sea-boats-pt-lundin-kri-klewang-625-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 9:56:34 AM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, CSB 8020 (ex-Hamilton class), 8020, High Endurance Cutter, Vietnam Coastguard</summary>
<detail>Follow-up on a previous req by BDukes. 2nd unit is transfered and 3rd is requested.
US coastguard Hamilton class, Latest in current DB is #1934
The WHEC722 Morgenthau & WHEC626 John Midgett are transferred to Vietnam as CSB8020 & CSB8021
Req for third, prob the WHEC724 Douglas Munro
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/10240-naval-news-july-2021-navy-forces-maritime-defense-industry/10471-vietnamese-coast-guard-receives-csb-8021-from-u-s.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton-class_cutter
https://www.planetminecraft.com/project/vietnam-coast-guard-csb-8020-hamilton-class/
https://www.asiapacificdefensejournal.com/2021/08/vietnam-requests-for-third-hamilton.html
https://hanoitimes.vn/cbs-8021-hamilton-class-vessel-docks-at-homeport-in-vietnam-318150.html
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 1:28:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KLAB

An observation but if Hellfire gets a surface to air capability then so should a whole raft of purpose designed Soviet / Russian ATGM and gun launched ATGM which have purpose designed proximity fused fragmentation warheads with a stated design aim of anti helicopter anti low slow aircraft capability. I expect other missiles from elsewhere could also be pressed into surface to air engagements by design or necessity but from the top of my head
9M133F Kornet
9M119M Svir/Refleks
9M120-1F Attaka
9M123 KHRIZANTEMA (Not in DB489)
Plus the Israeli LAHAT 120mm GLGP
Are all anti air capable.
That's without putting my special thinking hat on.
Not a critique of the request just that the speed guidance and manoeuvrability of a lot of these supposedly anti tank missiles do make them dangerous to low slow and non manoeuvring air targets, its not a Hellfire exclusive.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tylerblakebrandon

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Add anti-air capabilities to Hellfire missile</summary>
<detail>Apparently they can target aerial threats and that dual use capability seems to be part of the reason it is used on the M-SHORAD. Seems the Israelis have downed a Lebanese Cessna and an Iranian UAV.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hellfire-ii-missile/
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker-a1/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40311/the-army-has-started-fielding-its-first-new-short-range-air-defense-system-in-decades
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/05/24/israel.plane.02/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-761410,00.html
<evidence>

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hellfire-ii-missile/
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker-a1/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40311/the-army-has-started-fielding-its-first-new-short-range-air-defense-system-in-decades
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/05/24/israel.plane.02/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-761410,00.html

I had put in a feature request for "Use AAM in ASuW mode" similar to SAM's as many AAM can be employed against surface or ground targets and a doctrine flag like for SAMs seemed to be the best long term solution rather than a specific specialized DB entry. Perhaps a similar type flag for such ATGM that have a secondary AA capability would be useful.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 2:04:38 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Istiklal class, P201, Patrol Boat, Country navy/Gc</summary>
<detail>
Seven boats have been ordererd, Five launched. Tunesian build.
Length 26.5, Beam 5.8, Draft 1.26. Displ 80t
Unk EO & Nav radars
1x 20mm gun, 2x 12.7mm MG
Max speed 25 kts. Range 600 nm.
Crew 18
Machinery 2x Rolls Royce each 3200 hp
</detail>
<evidence>
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tunisian-armed-forces-pictures-videos.464411/page-81
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/tunisia-launches-another-domestic-patrol-boat-authorises-new-50-m-vessel/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/may/10082-tunisian-navy-takes-delivery-of-the-fourth-istiklal-class-patrol-boat-el-jem.html
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/tunisia/tun_cf_istiklal15.htm
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 3:04:35 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Semilang class, 2161, Patrol Boat (PB), Malaysian Coastguard (MMEA)</summary>
<detail>From JFS2013/2014
Transferred from former fishery department
Displacement full 78t, Length 21m, Wide 5.5m, Draft 1.5m
Speed 25 kts, Complement 14,
I-band navigation radar
Machinery 2x Deutz SBA 12M 816SR diesels, 2 shafts
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2021/january/9523-malaysian-maritime-enforcement-agency-tanjung-manis-zone-receives-semilang-class-patrol-boat-km-semilang.html
https://infogalactic.com/info/Malaysian_Maritime_Enforcement_Agency
https://aseanregionalforum.asean.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Annex-8-Session-22-Presentation-by-Malaysia.pdf
https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2021/01/mmea-launches-new-patrol-boat.html
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/malaysia/mal_cg_p101.htm
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 5:35:41 PM

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Update AC-130W (2017) with 105mm cannon and LSDB (also for AC-130J)</summary>

<detail>
Originally, the AC-130W Stinger II was not equipped with a 105mm howitzer cannon like previous AC-130 variants had been. But after reassessing past combat missions and considering Airmen feedback, the U.S. Air Force reversed it's decision and refitted the Stinger gunships with the big 105mm cannon in 2017.

In addition, the AC-130W/J can drop LSDB laser-guided bombs. The weapon, which uses the same semi-active laser sensor as the JDAM, allows for its aim point to be precisely adjusted while it is still in flight. So it can engange moving targets.

</detail>

<evidence>

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/9940/the-usaf-finally-gives-its-ac-130w-gunship-the-big-gun-it-desperately-needs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvSQdfyFAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZkEdugAzmo

</evidence>

Thanks! ;)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/10/2021 6:29:36 PM

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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>The SM-6 missile has a much longer anti-surface range.</summary>

<detail>

In a recent test the SM-6 missile has demonstrated an anti-surface range greater than 250 miles (402 km).

quote:

Using a blend of information from unmanned and manned ships and aircraft, a guided-missile destroyer launched an anti-surface missile from over-the-horizon to hit a target more than 250 miles away without using active sensors as part of the Unmanned Integrated Battle Problem 21

The information was relayed to USS John Finn (DDG-113), which used the blended targeting data to fire a Standard Missile-6 to hit the target more than 200 miles away and beyond the range of its powerful radar.

Currently in the DB the range of the SM-6 is much shorter:

quote:

RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Blk IA - (2017, ABM, Anti-Surface) Guided Weapon
Air Max: 130 nm/240.8 km. Surface Max: 130 nm/240.8 km.

Probably, anti-air range is much longer too:

quote:

The SM-6 is estimated to have a range of over 200 nautical miles (370km) and flies at Mach 3.5, giving it the ability to hit an adversary at a long range with little to no warning from defensive radars.

</detail>

<evidence>
https://news.usni.org/2021/04/26/unmanned-systems-passive-sensors-help-uss-john-finn-bullseye-target-with-sm-6
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/filling-the-gap-anti-ship-missiles-and-the-royal-australian-navy/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/sm-6/
</evidence>

Thanks! :)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/11/2021 12:47:56 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Deniz Han class (C92 design), 01, Corvette, Turkmen Navy (Turkmenistan)</summary>
<detail>
Turmenistan Build in coop with Turkey
Length 91.4m, Beam 13.3m, Draught 3.5m
Displacement 1600t
1x8 MBDA Otomat Mk2 Block IV SSM, 16-cell VLS for VL MICA SR-SAM, 76mm/62 Leonardo super rapid gun, Torpedo launchers. The center of the rear of the hull is equipped with Turkish "KORKUT-D" dual 35mm near-anti-cannons, and two 35mm Oerlikon KDC-02 automatic guns, Two sets of 25mm STOP remote-controlled weapon stations of Turkish Aselsan company and two sets of 12.7mm STAMP remote-controlled weapon stations are installed on both sides, six-tube 196mm jammer launchers from Turkish Roketsan company,
Flightdeck, no hager
4x MAN 18VP185 diesel engine, Max speed 26 kts, Range 300 nm, crew 100
C-band Kronos 3D active phased array radar, Ku-band fire control radar, Hull-Mounted sonar, ES/EA, TorpCounter, Nav radar
</detail>
<evidence>
https://inf.news/en/military/d52994fd7c281ebd67d72f44f39fa0e3.html
https://www.swafricanews.com/nigerian-navy-gets-new-offshore-survey-vessel/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/turkmenistan-comissions-its-first-turkmen-class-corvette-deniz-han/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeql2Zav3h4
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/naval-warfare/idef-2021-turkish-weapon-systems-debut-new-turkmen/
https://en.defenceturk.net/dearsan-c92-corvette-delivery-from-turkey-to-turkmenistan/
</evidence>
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/11/2021 8:42:28 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>ADD new Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) IOC 2021</summary>
<detail>

The Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) program is the backbone of the Missile Defense Agency�s layered defense strategy to protect the U.S. homeland from ballistic missile attack.

LRDR is a multi-mission, multi-face radar capable of conducting missile defense and space domain awareness (SDA) missions through a 220 degree wide field of view. LRDR tracks and discriminates multiple threats simultaneously, providing precision track and discrimination data to Missile Defense System (MDS) firing units such as the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD) System. For SDA, LRDR can monitor satellites orbiting the earth, detecting, tracking, and identifying active/inactive satellites, spent rocket bodies, or fragmentation debris.

quote:

Only a few technical details are known about the LRDR. It has two antenna faces. Artist renderings of the LRDR suggest that the boresites of the two faces are separated by about 120�, which is consistent with the reported requirement that the LRDR must have a �wide instantaneous field of view to enable wide area defense�(see my post of January 30, 2019). It is known that the LRDR operates in S-Band, which extends from 2 GHz to 4 GHz.

Estimating the Range of the Long Range Discrimination Radar (April 2, 2019):
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/04/02/estimating-the-range-of-the-long-range-discrimination-radar-april-2-2019/

</detail>
<evidence>
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/01/30/the-lrdr-not-the-best-discrimination-money-can-buy-january-30-2019/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210318000938/https://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/lrdr.pdf
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/lrdr/
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/04/02/estimating-the-range-of-the-long-range-discrimination-radar-april-2-2019/
</evidence>

Thanks! :)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/11/2021 11:47:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: 14yellow14

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>ADD new Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) IOC 2021</summary>
<detail>

The Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) program is the backbone of the Missile Defense Agency�s layered defense strategy to protect the U.S. homeland from ballistic missile attack.

Only a few technical details are known about the LRDR. It has two antenna faces. Artist renderings of the LRDR suggest that the boresites of the two faces are separated by about 120�, which is consistent with the reported requirement that the LRDR must have a �wide instantaneous field of view to enable wide area defense�(see my post of January 30, 2019). It is known that the LRDR operates in S-Band, which extends from 2 GHz to 4 GHz.

Estimating the Range of the Long Range Discrimination Radar (April 2, 2019):
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/04/02/estimating-the-range-of-the-long-range-discrimination-radar-april-2-2019/

</detail>
<evidence>
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/01/30/the-lrdr-not-the-best-discrimination-money-can-buy-january-30-2019/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210318000938/https://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/lrdr.pdf
https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/lrdr/
https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2019/04/02/estimating-the-range-of-the-long-range-discrimination-radar-april-2-2019/
</evidence>

Thanks! :)

Was able to find this as well. The one currently being built at Clear SFS will have a 220-degree arc according to it.

https://mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/lrdr.pdf

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 12:04:06 AM

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Correct Chinese J-10C (#2057) PL-15 missile datalink channel from 1 to 12</summary>
<detail>In several DB3k versions up to v489 J-10C has only 1 PL-15 missile datalink and can only launch 1 PL-15 missile at one time. Since oldler variant J-10B (#4617) has 12 channels of PL-15 missile datalink, it must be obviously a typo and should be corrected. </detail>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 10:09:10 AM

Parel803

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, El-Kasseh class (Lerici/Katanp��), 501, Minehunter (MCM), Algerian Navy</summary>
<detail>2 of 3 vessels commissioned
Italian Lerici in current DB #966 (latest) and #1704. OS states more so based on the Finnisch Katanpaa #3012
Italian build, Intermarine
</detail>
<evidence>
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/alg_ms_el_kasseh_1.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lerici-class_minehunter
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/algerian-navy-current-and-retired/algerian-navy-mine-warfare-vessels/
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/t/africa-military-news-reports-data-etc.6594/page-5
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-sea/italian-shipyard-launches-algerian-mine-countermeasures-vessel/
https://www.militaryimages.net/threads/algerian-peoples-national-armed-forces.8682/page-17
https://www.militaryimages.net/threads/algerian-peoples-national-armed-forces.8682/page-11
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 10:31:38 AM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Deneb (Ocea FPB98 Mk I), 334, Fast Patrol Boat (FPB), Algerian Coastguard</summary>
<detail>Build by Ocea, France. 21 units, commissioned between 2008 and 2011
Length 31,8m, Width 6.3, Draught 1,2, Displ st 100t, Displ full 118t, Crew 13 + 1 extra, Max speed 30? kts, Range 1200 at 12 kts
2x Furuno Nav radar, 1 x 1 - 30/75 DS-30B, Macinery 2x Caterpillar C32 diesels, 2x waterjets, 3660 Hp
</detail>
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/alg_gc_deneb.htm
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3826p765-armee-algerienne-anp-tome-xiv
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/work-boat-world/maritime-security-world/naval/ships-naval/ocea-delivers-first-of-10-new-patrol-boats-to-algerian-navy/
https://www.ocea-ssm.com/fpb-98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWB2UQWf2jk
https://www.militaryimages.net/attachments/2096546-jpg.201427/
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 11:04:27 AM

Parel803

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Rais Hassen Barbiar (C62), 807, Corvette, Algerian Navy</summary>
<detail>A larger version of the Djebel Chenoua class
Algerian build, ECRN Mers-El-Kebir
Commisioned in 2017
Length 62m, Width 8.45m, Draught 2,5m, Displ st 600t
3 shafts, 3x MTU 16V595 TE diesels, max speed 28 kts
2x2 C-802 SSM, 1x 76/59 AK-176 76mm gun, 1x 6-30/54 AK-630 30mm CIWS
Possible same sensor fit as Djebel Chenoua class
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-sea/algeria-commissions-indigenous-corvette/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-algerian-armed-forces.175542/page-157
https://weaponews.com/news/13041-navy-algeria-got-the-corvette-built-at-domestic-shipyards.html
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/algeria/alg_es_rais_hassen_barbiar.htm
https://www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly/1664
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djebel_Chenoua-class_corvette
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 3:27:46 PM

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, El Khattabi class (Lazaga), P304, Patrol Vessel / Missile Boat (PGG), Moroccan Navy</summary>
<detail>
Bazan Shipyard, Spain build, first commissioned in 1981
The Spain Lazaga class ship are Scrapped and two are sold to Colombia where one is sunk for a sinkex and the second one is retired. The 4 Moroccans are believed to be active, lastest OS ref found of 2020
Src JFS 13/14
Length 58.1, Beam 7.6, Draught 2.7, Displacement full 432t,
Max speed 30 kts, Range 3000 at 15
Crew 41
Machinery 2x MTU 16V956RB91 diesels, 7500 hp(m) (5.51 MW) sustained, 2 shafts
4x SSM38 Exocet, 76mm(3 in)/62 Oto Melara, 1 x 40 (1.57 in)/70 Breda-Bofors, 2x 20mm/90 (0,79 in) Oerlikon
ZW06, 2x Furuno nav. WM-25.
Refitted in Spain in 08/09
</detail>
<evidence>
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/royal-moroccan-navy-current-and-retired/royal-moroccan-navy-corvettes-and-patrol-ships/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqk0XXuzN0Q
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Moroccan-Navy/Lazaga-El-Khattabi-class.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazaga-class_patrol_vessel
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/12/2021 3:54:48 PM

Parel803

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Interceptor 1503 FRP Open, -, Fast Patrol, Moroccan Navy</summary>
<detail>
Not much evidence of delivering other than an image. Lots of refs to the order.
Length: 14.5, Beam 3.5, Depth at side 1.9, Draught 0.9/1.3, Crew 2 + 6 extra.
Max Speed 55 with range 190
3x Volvo D6-370, 816 bKW@3500 rpm,
Radome nav radar, searchligth, VHF
Weight 1.5t. Hull E-glass and carbon reinforced epoxy
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/WarriorMorocco/status/1374008783224066055/photo/1 image of interceptor from twitter
https://twitter.com/WarriorMorocco/status/1374008772327276551/photo/4
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2015-news/december-2015-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/3351-royal-moroccan-navy-orders-five-interceptor-1503-vessels-from-damen.html
https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/interceptor/interceptor-1503-frp-open
https://products.damen.com/-/media/products/images/clusters-groups/high-speed-crafts/interceptor/interceptor-1503-frp-open/documents/product_sheet_damen_interceptor_1503_frp_open.pdf?rev=a98e213eab9e40a8baa4e175980342f7
https://products.damen.com/-/media/products/images/clusters-groups/high-speed-crafts/interceptor/interceptor-1503-frp-cabin/documents/executive_summary_damen_interceptor_1503_frp.pdf?rev=91ceeca513814dd8afce2a201cc3bdab
https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/node/136693
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/14/2021 3:59:47 PM

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So, I suppose this is the appropriate place to notify you guys about difficulties and faults, isn't it? To test the newly introduced SAMP-T system, I created a very simple scenario.

This test demonstrates that, despite official data on ground fire, the Patriot AN/MPQ-65 radar has about the same ground fire range and greater target tracking. More rapid response and reaction time. And, despite the technical differences, a slower firing rate. Furthermore, THE Aster 30 missile has an extremely strange flight path.

The scenario:

https://www.filemail.com/d/aayemcsroqlkmsh

So I'm hoping you can find and fix the problem here.

The GroundFire radar's range is also presented. According to this video given by Thales, it has a range of 400km.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vQyMr8Dszk&t=14s

thank you for your great work!

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RE: Canada CSC - 9/14/2021 4:01:28 PM

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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Ship#3192, Type 26, Canadian Navy</summary>
<detail> Given that the ship has been announced to equip both the CAMM as well as ESSM/SM-2's the ship will require COMMS for both. Currently it only has the ASTER Command Datalink. Please add AEGIS datalink.
<evidence> Attachment below shows issue when adding ESSM/SM-2's

Royal Canadian Navy Unveils New Details On CSC Frigates

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/14/2021 5:32:05 PM

anlgzl

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hi,

is it possible to update the t129's weapon loadout regarding to these documents

https://www.tusas.com/content/files/uploads/1890/TUSAS_2020_Genel_Flyer_T129Atak_EN.pdf
https://www.tusas.com/en/products/helicopter/co-development-production/t129-atak

thanks in advance

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/15/2021 1:43:51 AM

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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Possible incorrect range on AA-7 Apex B (R-23T) Weapon_789</summary>
<detail> Database gives max range of 16 nm. The Apex B used the same missile body as the SAHR Apex A, so it had enough fuel to go 16 nm. However, the the 23T3 IR seeker was incapable of seeking most heat sources beyond about 6 nm/11 km (vice the 10 nm listed in the database. This effectively limited the maximum engagement range to 11 km at launch, or a realistic max range (depending on target geometry) of around 9 nm. Possibly change the seeker head range or alternatively, the max range to reflect this limitation. )
<evidence> Chart below is from "Mladenov, Alexander "Soviet Cold War Fighters" See also "Vympel R-23 E R-24 (AA-7 Apex)." Aerei Militari | Aeronautica Militare | Aviazione Militare. Accessed September 2, 2021. https://www.aereimilitari.org/Armamenti/R-23-Apex.htm; R-23 (missile)." Memim.com. Accessed September 2, 2021. https://memim.com/r-23-missile.html;

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/15/2021 11:24:23 AM

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<type>New</type>
<summary>Russian Forepost-R UCAV (IAI Searcher) 2021</summary>
<detail>Russia first ordered IAI Searcher UAV directly from Israel then produced a domestic copy the FOREPOST-R which is in the DB. Deliveries of the domestic copy began 2019. Later developments have seen the Forepost armed with 2 x KAB-20 GPS mini munitions not dissimilar to the Turkish MAM-L.
So the request is also for the KAB-20 to be added as a weapon the capabilities of which appear akin to the 8km ranged GPS/GLONASS MAM-L
Ideally please add a Forepost-R armed UCAV from 2021 given the YouTube clip. </detail>
<evidence>

"IAI Searcher - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Searcher
https://youtu.be/qQPPvD-Qpyk
https://saidpvo.livejournal.com/979205.html
Copy existing DB entry.
http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4038/ and add 2 x KAB-20 loadout.
</evidence>

Thanks
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/16/2021 2:11:55 PM

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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Nomenclature correction to Mys-M1E DB3K Facility_3064, 3063, and 3062</summary>
<detail> The game refers to the fixed version of the radar. The Mys-M1E is the mobile version of the radar. MR-10M1E is the fixed/ stationary version of the same radar
<evidence> Coastal Radar Mys-M1E | Catalog Rosoboronexport." Рособоронэкспорт | Официальный сайт. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/stationary-electronic-systems/mys-m1e/ ; "Coastal Radar Mys-M1E | Catalog Rosoboronexport." Рособоронэкспорт | Официальный сайт. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/stationary-electronic-systems/mys-m1e/.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/17/2021 12:33:23 PM

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<type>New</type>
<summary>AW189 SAR Helicopter (Commercial/Civilian) 2013</summary>
<detail>The Agusta Westland AW189 commercial helicopter is the civil version of the AW149 which is in the running for the UK New Medium Helicopter (Puma HC2, Griffin HAR2, Bell 212 and AS365 Dauphin II replacement) requirement and is being put to use for parapublic commercial SAR in the UK via Bristow for HMCG and in the AW149 for other militaries. Egypt and Thailand are using the AW149 version primarily for transport but also SAR. Egypt has ordered 8 x AW189 for SAR. Having the AW189 commercial version will provide a useful platform in its own right and a template for what will probably be a significant type in the near term for other military tier 1 users.
Loadouts
Passengers x 12 Troops (16 civil passengers)
SAR with FLIR EO turret NVG's Satcomm and Searchlight.
Cargo 0.8 tonne.
</detail>
<evidence>
Hat in the Ring pp44 October 21 Airforces Monthly. Issue 403.
"AgustaWestland AW149 - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/aw149?utm_source=air%20international&utm_medium=page%20print&utm_campaign=AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/aw189-1?f=/air/helicopters/commercial

The companies product page pretty much covers the stats and performance, details of the specific sensors for the military types will no doubt emerge in due course but the basic airframe is well documented.
</evidence>
For consideration
K

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/17/2021 10:10:46 PM

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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Correction to TRML-3D (DB3K facility_2734, 980, 1224, 981 </summary>
<detail> Database identifies unit as a building. In fact, it is a vehicle. Correct nomenclature is "TRML-3D", vice "TRM-L 3D" in database. According to manufacturer, mast height is 12 meters, vice 30 meters in database. NOTE: Facility_2734 is modeling the "SMART-L EWC [BMD Mod]" which is a different system than the TRML-3D, so it should be renamed.
<evidence> "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 17, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Tactical%20Vehicles/TRML-3D/a000467. ; "TRML-3D - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed September 17, 2021. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/04.battle/karte008.en.html. ;"TRML-3D/32 - Mobile Air Surveillance and Defence Radar | HENSOLDT." Sensor Solutions | HENSOLDT. Accessed September 17, 2021. https://www.hensoldt.net/products/radar-iff-and-datalink/trml-3d/32/.

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