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The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 4:42:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 4:46:12 AM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 4:52:14 AM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 4:54:58 AM   
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$/hr is still practically free!

Far and away the lowest cost per hour of enjoyment of any game in my long life.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 9:33:29 AM   
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Is that Fire in the Sky on the second top left shelf?


I've been meaning to get that.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 9:37:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I spent like a hundred on books, i new most of that stuffs anyway. The game i paid for was around a hundred as well.

Not mention, how much man hours they put in on this game. I bet took them along time, but most of those details arent good passed on from older series.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 11:19:46 AM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 11:31:06 AM   
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Where are the pics of neglected wifes, angry girlfiends, overgrown lawns, unwashed dishes?


You are presuming that there are wives, girl friends, lawns, and washable dishes. I think that is presuming too much . . .

Neglected cats, on the other hand, usually have means to get your attention when they want it.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 11:51:39 AM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 12:11:27 PM   
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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.


E-books don't hurt someone either if they are hit with one . . .

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 12:50:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have the very same problem about the historical games I have bought so far, unfortunately most of them have been just skimmed without a proper reading session.

Anyhow, if you know the series, I would love to see a Then and Now book by After the Battle about the Pacififc.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 1:22:46 PM   
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I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





The ladder seems overkill, but it sure looks nice!

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 1:31:12 PM   
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I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





The ladder seems overkill, but it sure looks nice!


depends on your size

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 2:37:04 PM   
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I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





The ladder seems overkill, but it sure looks nice!


depends on your size


Or the lack of size . . .

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:11:51 PM   
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I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





The ladder seems overkill, but it sure looks nice!


depends on your size


Or the lack of size . . .

In my defense, the ceilings are over 13' in that room, or over 4 meters if you prefer. Note that you cannot see the floor in the pic.
The real problem with the ladder is where the bar crosses the top shelf--all large books have to be laid flat to be able to get to them. Of course, that also protects those books, so that is where the Garzke and the Lacroix books go. If you have bought those, you know what I mean...

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:15:05 PM   
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Very impressed with the "library ladder".


Is that Fire in the Sky on the second top left shelf?


I've been meaning to get that.

Yes, good eye. And Touched with Fire is right next to it. Both are excellent.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:18:47 PM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:19:25 PM   
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Where are the pics of neglected wifes, angry girlfiends, overgrown lawns, unwashed dishes?

Neglected wife, hands on hips, mouth taut, eyes fiery, was carefully cropped out of the picture.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:23:07 PM   
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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:24:05 PM   
Wirraway_Ace


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Status: offline 		The Burma Campaign was another huge hole in my knowledge of the war. I highly recommend the Allen book for those who want a one-and-done overview.

Nik got me on to the Shore books. Amazing detail of air operations from both sides in the DEI and Burma.




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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:35:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Absolutely love this one. Another Nik recommendation. You have to take the sweeping conclusions with a grain of salt, but I ended up giving copies to all my friends and family who have an interest in WWII. My ex-wife may have accidently got a copy too.





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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:40:39 PM   
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I count 65 books on my shelves that I have bought since my original purchase of WitP AE. By my calculation, I have spent $3,000 on books and about $75 for the game.





The ladder seems overkill, but it sure looks nice!


depends on your size


Or the lack of size . . .

In my defense, the ceilings are over 13' in that room, or over 4 meters if you prefer. Note that you cannot see the floor in the pic.
The real problem with the ladder is where the bar crosses the top shelf--all large books have to be laid flat to be able to get to them. Of course, that also protects those books, so that is where the Garzke and the Lacroix books go. If you have bought those, you know what I mean...


You could also put some bedding up there for cats to chill out yet gaze on their empire!

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:43:06 PM   
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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.

My biggest concern with e-books is having a way to access them ten years down the road. The whole family loves books, so they are everywhere, along with ladders to get to them. I am not sure the whole family enjoys Roman helmets, but who knows?





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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:45:59 PM   
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You could also put some bedding up there for cats to chill out yet gaze on their empire!
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That is a good idea, if I had cats. I grew up with cats by my wife is a dog person. No cats in "our" house.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 3:58:18 PM   
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Each of you clean up after your own . . .

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 5:10:18 PM   
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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.

My biggest concern with e-books is having a way to access them ten years down the road. The whole family loves books, so they are everywhere, along with ladders to get to them. I am not sure the whole family enjoys Roman helmets, but who knows?





Whoa! You should contact Trojan about doing a commercial for their product - with realistic situation of course!

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 6:55:06 PM   
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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.


E-books don't hurt someone either if they are hit with one . . .

Well I could throw my tablet at that someone instead......once....


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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.

My biggest concern with e-books is having a way to access them ten years down the road. The whole family loves books, so they are everywhere, along with ladders to get to them. I am not sure the whole family enjoys Roman helmets, but who knows?





Yeah that's true, with this whole "as a service" thingy that's going on in the last years I actually don't genuinely own the books that I buy, it's more like I pay money to borrow it for an unspecified time frame and if their servers go down, well that's it. This is mostly the case for amazon at least.

But the big advantage is: They are often much cheaper than the paper versions and thus I can afford to buy even more books that way.
For example: Your recommendation "Nomonhan, 1939: The Red Army's Victory That Shaped World War II" as e-book costs only half the price of the physical copy on amazon.

Everything has it's advantages and disadvantages I guess.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 7:03:39 PM   
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Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.


E-books don't hurt someone either if they are hit with one . . .

Well I could throw my tablet at that someone instead......once....


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ORIGINAL: Maallon

Pictures like this make me regret buying e-books all the time, because I can't have a nice and classy bookshelf like this.

My biggest concern with e-books is having a way to access them ten years down the road. The whole family loves books, so they are everywhere, along with ladders to get to them. I am not sure the whole family enjoys Roman helmets, but who knows?





Yeah that's true, with this whole "as a service" thingy that's going on in the last years I actually don't genuinely own the books that I buy, it's more like I pay money to borrow it for an unspecified time frame and if their servers go down, well that's it. This is mostly the case for amazon at least.

But the big advantage is: They are often much cheaper than the paper versions and thus I can afford to buy even more books that way.
For example: Your recommendation "Nomonhan, 1939: The Red Army's Victory That Shaped World War II" as e-book costs only half the price of the physical copy on amazon.

Everything has it's advantages and disadvantages I guess.


If you just want to read them, the library is free. There are also free books online as well, include about the US Naval Infantry (Marine) operations.

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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 7:37:25 PM   
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If you just want to read them, the library is free. There are also free books online as well, include about the US Naval Infantry (Marine) operations.

Yeah I do have several libraries in the city I live in and even a university library where modern history is taught.
But surprisingly enough, their repertory of history books about the pacific war is slim to non-existent.
There are a lot of books about the European theater though.

The whole topic about the pacific war gets fairly little attention here and I have yet to actually come across a book that was translated into German. I kind of live in the wrong country to be interested in the pacific side of WWII.
But I can choose between hundreds of different books about the Tiger 1.....


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RE: The Real Cost of WitP AE - 9/25/2021 9:22:37 PM   
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If you just want to read them, the library is free. There are also free books online as well, include about the US Naval Infantry (Marine) operations.

Yeah I do have several libraries in the city I live in and even a university library where modern history is taught.
But surprisingly enough, their repertory of history books about the pacific war is slim to non-existent.
There are a lot of books about the European theater though.

The whole topic about the pacific war gets fairly little attention here and I have yet to actually come across a book that was translated into German. I kind of live in the wrong country to be interested in the pacific side of WWII.
But I can choose between hundreds of different books about the Tiger 1.....


The library system around here lets you get books from other libraries as well.

But if nothing else, you could then have a job translating books into German!

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