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Review and Editing of Unit Descriptions - 9/27/2021 3:07:04 PM

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I have an idea I would like to propose for the consideration of the community: Myself and a very small team of enthusiasts have been writing the description files for CMO since 2013. Our vision is to create readable summaries of the various units/weapons/facilities in the game that allow a player to 1) quickly get 2) an understanding of the major characteristics of a particular piece of equipment is and 3) how it is used as well as 4) it limitations. We also double check accuracy of the CMO database, as we sometimes find potential errors based on our research.

Needless to say, this takes considerable time, as evidenced by the fact that there are only a small fraction of the units in the database that have entries. So here is the idea: If community members have an interest in any particular piece of equipment, simply post a proposed write up of it in this thread, using the template below. The community can comment on it and make suggestions. I will convert the description file into a .txt document, give you credit for the description file, and add it to the next update. The format we use is the following:

OVERVIEW: A 1-2 sentence overview of the essential characteristics of the equipment, including name, alternative names, type of equipment, range bands it operates in, and general purpose of the equipment.

DETAILS: Additional information on the equipment, including how it is employed, specific strengths and weaknesses of the equipment.

Specifications: Operational specifics of the gear, such as engagement envelopes, kill probabilities, mobility, reload times, etc. If a particular specification is unknown, I use a "?" or "unk" to denote the data is unavailable and needs further research.

NOTES: Information that does not fit into any of the categories above, such as the date it entered into service (IOC), names of the countries operating the equipment, or other interesting facts about the equipment

SOURCES: All the sources, including weblinks, used in writing the description files. IMPORTANT: I try to use multiple sources for my write ups, and to the extent possible try to find two sources for each fact in the write up (admittedly, that is not always possible). I also try to avoid using Wikipedia as a source, but I frequently use Wikipedia to identify potential sources of information, which are then cited in as sources.

In the next series of posts, I will provide some examples of entries that will be included in the upcoming update that community members can use as a template for writing description files. In addition to using these as templates, please feel free to comment on any inaccuracies or additions that should be made to these descriptions.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:08:19 PM

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OVERVIEW: The HQ-9B aka Hong Qi-9 ('Red Banner-9') SAM battalion is a road mobile, medium-to-long range, active radar homing, surface-to-air missile air defense unit, intended to provide strategic area defense of fixed targets against airborne targets and cruise missiles.

DETAILS: The HQ-9 provides medium-long range defense against aircraft, helicopters, UAVs, cruise missiles, air-to-ground missiles, guided bombs at medium- to long ranges.

The HQ-9 battery can employ a wide range of radars, both search, surveillance, acquisition, tracking and fire control to detect different targets, including ballistic missiles and stealth targets. The HQ-9 SAM battalion consists of eight (8) TEL vehicles, each with four (4) missiles. Additionally, the unit has a search/acquisition radar such as the Type 305B or YLC-2V and Type 120 low altitude acquisition radar, an engagement radar such as the HT-233 or H-200 engagement radar, a command and control vehicle, reloading vehicles and various support vehicles.

The system is capable of tracking some 100 airborne targets and the radar system can simultaneously guide up to 16 missiles against targets. A typical engagement begins with the detection of the target by the acquisition radar. Similar to the HQ-9's 5V55K predecessor, the HQ-9B missile may have a 15 second preparation cycle before firing. The battery can fire a missile every 3-5 seconds. After the cold launch from the TEL, an on-board inertial navigation system guides the missile until it is captured by the tracking-and-guidance system. At this point, the command guidance system takes over, and directs the missile towards its target. The HQ-9B uses a dual seeker (active radar and IR) for terminal guidance.

Specifications:

Maximum Acquisition Range: (Dependent on search radar)
Maximum Tracking Range: (Dependent on search radar)
Engagement Envelope: 2-135 nm (range); 30-80,000 ft (altitude)
Max Target Speed: 2650 knts
Kill Probability: 0.9 (aircraft)
Reload Time: ?? minutes
Mobility: road mobile
Emplacement/Displacement: 30+ minutes.

NOTES: IOC: 2010 (est).

SOURCES: Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defense, "HQ-9/FT-2000" 28 December 2016; "Hong Qi 9 (HQ-9) Air Defence Missile System, China." Army Technology | Land Defence News & Views Updated Daily. Last modified May 28, 2021. https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hong-qi-9-hq-9-air-defence-missile-system/.;
"HQ-9 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq9.htm. ; "HQ-9 � Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance � Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/todays-missile-threat/china/china-anti-access-area-denial/hq-9/. ; Administrator. "HQ-9 Ground-to-air Medium Range Air Defense Missile System Data | China Chinese Army Missile Systems Vehicles | Chinese China Army Military Equipment Armoured UK." Defense News Security Global Military Army Equipment Technology Industry - Army Recognition. Last modified April 14, 2021. https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_chinese_army_missile_systems_vehicles/hq-9_ground-to-air_medium_range_air_defense_missile_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html. ;"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Defensive%20Weapons/HQ-9/a001833. ; Kopp, Dr C. "PLA Area Defence Missile Systems." Air Power Australia. Accessed September 23, 2021. https://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-IADS-SAMs.html. ; Pike, John. "HQ-9." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified January 8, 2021. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/hq-9.htm.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:10:19 PM

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OVERVIEW: The MiG-23MF Flogger B is a single engine, variable-geometry, supersonic 3rd generation fighter aircraft. It had a secondary mission of ground attack.

DETAILS: The Flogger was intended to replace the MiG-21, and featured improved landing and takeoff performance, range and weapons capability over its predecessor.
The Flogger B was designed to be more reliable, maneuverable, and lighter than earlier Mig-23s. It achieved these goals by removing a fuel tank and improving aerodynamics, modernizing the avionics and flight control and up-rating the power plant. The Flogger G was equipped with the J-band (10-15 Ghz) Sapfir-23D-III aka HIGH LARK 2 (redesignated the Sapfir-23E for export) radar giving it a "look-down shoot-down" capability and maximum detection range of 65km against a fighter-sized target at high altitude, reduced to 25km in look-down mode.

The aircraft was powered by an R-29-300 turbojet engine, producing 27,500 lb of thrust.

The MiG-23M could maneuver up to 8.0 g. However, control issues at high AOA reduced the theoretical maneuverability of the MiG-23. Overall, the MiG-23 was a poor dogfighter. While its turning capability was comparable to an original F-4E Phantom, the F-15 or F-4E with slats could out-turn a MiG-23. Further, its low speed dogfighting characteristics were poor. The MiG-23 had excellent acceleration characteristics, particularly below 10,000 ft and could out-accelerate any American fighter, making it a good hit-and-run interceptor. The MiG-23's small profile made it hard to visually spot.

NOTES: IOC 1978 (approx.) This was an export derivative of the MiG-23M, (denoted "izdeliye 2A") produced from 1978 to 1983 for Warsaw Pact countries. Almost identical to the MiG-23M with small differences in communication and IFF equipment. Wing sweep mechanism failures and cracks in the wing pivots resulted in 5g limits being placed on the airframe until 1977, resulting in only BVR intercept and no basic fighter maneuvering training during this period.

SOURCE: "MiG-23M." Airwar.Ru. Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23m.html. ; Mladenov, Alexander. Soviet Cold War Fighters. Fonthill Media, 2017. ; Newdick, Thomas. "This Myth-Busting Walk-Around Of The Soviet MiG-23 Flogger Fighter Is A Must-Watch." The Drive. Last modified March 18, 2021. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch. ; "MiG-23ML." Airwar.Ru.Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23ml.html ; Davies, Steve. Red Eagles: America�s Secret MiGs. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2008 pg. 167 ; "Mikoyan MIG-23." Weapons and Warfare. Last modified November 14, 2020. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/11/25/mikoyan-mig-23/. ; "Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 (Flogger)." Military Factory - Global Defense Reference. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=151.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:12:17 PM

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OVERVIEW: The KRTP-86 Tamara (NATO: TRASH CAN) ELS is a is a road mobile, ESM system for passive direction finding and locating airborne emitters operating in the C-J (NATO) or UHF-KU (IEEE) bands.

DETAILS: The KRTP-86 Tamara is an improved version of the KRTP-81. Like the KRTP-81, the KRTP-81M uses Differential Time of Arrival (DTOA) capabilities to locate both airborne and surface emitters. The KRTP-81M, has higher sensitivity (+ 3dB) and higher resistance to interference, improved performance against TACANs and improved software.

The deployed system typically comprises a central site containing the signal processing equipment and an ESM receiver and two or three side sites containing only an ESM receiver. The receivers typically are targeted against emitters such as secondary surveillance radar (SSR) transponders, identify friend or foe (IFF) transponders, airborne radars, weather radars, tactical air navigation (TACAN) transponders, distance measurement equipment (DME) beacons, digital communications signals, and pulsed jamming signals. The received signals are transmitted to the central site over a microwave link.

The central site uses the known propagation delay from the side sites to estimate the TDOA of the pulses at each site. The TDOA of a pulse between one side site and the central site locates the target on a hyperboloid. A second side site provides a second TDOA and hence a second hyperboloid. The intersection of these two hyperboloids places the target on a line, providing a 2D measurement of the target's location (no height) or a 3D location with reception from 3 or more receivers.

The side sites are usually deployed 10 to 35 km from the central site, providing a compromise of coverage and accuracy. Up to 72 targets in a 100 degree sector can be automatically tracked.

The "Tamara" system is self-deployable and road mobile. A complete system consists of 8 units of equipment (three RS-AJ / M receiving devices, one equipment cabin of the RS-KB receiving complex, an RS-KM signal processing equipment cabin, and an additional ZZP-5 command module with information display systems) each placed on Tatra T-815 truck chassis.

Specifications:

Frequency: 80 MHz-18 GHz (B-J Bands (NATO); UHF, L, S, C, X, KU Bands (IEEE)))

Range Resolution: unknown m (range), unknown degrees azimuth
On/Off time: unknown
Deploy/Stow Time ?? hours
Max Range: 240 nm (radar horizon)

NOTES: IOC 1989.

SOURCES:"CZK - KRTP-81 Ramona (radiotechnick� P�trač)." Https://www.valka.cz. Accessed September 22, 2021. https://www.armedconflicts.com/CZK-KRTP-81-Ramona-radiotechnicky-patrac-t12985. ; "RAMONA." Homepage Manfred Bischoff. Accessed September 22, 2021. https://www.manfred-bischoff.de/RAMONA.htm. ;"Czechoslovak passive electronic intelligence stations." Accessed September 22, 2021. https://pvo.guns.ru/other/czech/tamara/. ; Kopp, Dr C. "Warsaw Pact / Russian Emitter Locating Systems / ELINT Systems." Air Power Australia. Accessed August 9, 2021.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:14:48 PM

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OVERVIEW: The WHISKEY class SS (Project 613V) is a diesel powered attack submarine.

DETAILS: The WHISKEY SS were a shorter-range equivalent of the ZULU class, and designated as a coastal patrol submarine. The WHISKEY was still considered to be a very loud submarine, due in part to the limber holes along the hull.

Specifications:
Displacement: 1,350 tons submerged.
Speed: approximately 17 knots surfaced, 13.5 knots submerged
Machinery: 2 2000bhp diesel
Endurance: 40-45 days; 8,880/10 knts (surface) 6,000 nm/5 knts on snorkel; 335/2 knts (submerged)
Operational Depth: 200 m
Maximum Depth:
Complement: 54
Hulls built: 215 + 21 Chinese-built
Period of Service: 1950-1983

NOTES: Design was influenced by the German Type XXI U-boat of WWII. Early versions were orginally equiped with deck guns, but all were removed in the 1950's. Likely originally intended to protect the sea approaches to the USSR rather than as oceanic commercer-raiders.

SOURCES: Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, 1947-1982. Part II: The Warsaw Pact and Non-Aligned Nations. London: Conway Maritime Press, 1983, pg 492 ; http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.htm?1947vehicle_Whiskeyhist.htm&1 ; Moore, John Evelyn. Jane's Fighting Ships 1987-88. London: Jane's Pub, 1987, pg. 564.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:15:43 PM

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OVERVIEW: The RAT-31DL is a long range, 3D active phased array surveillance radar, operating in the NATO "D" (IEEE "L") Band.

DETAILS: The RAT-31 is designed to operate in heavy clutter and electronic countermeasures (ECM) environments. It features excellent Electronic Counter Counter Measures (ECCMs) ability due to its very low sidelobe antennas, reduced peak power, frequency agility.

The radar can be controlled through the local radar management console or through a remote console. The mechanical configuration is designed to facilitate
assembly/disassembly on battlefield, to provide an increased survivability.

The system is available in either fixed (DL) or transportable configuration (DL/M). The RAT 31 DL/M Radar systems, consisting of a foldable antenna and a shelter, both in two ISO 20 ft packages, can be transported in one A400M type aircraft as well as on truck and rail. This configuration allows for a high degree of mobility and fast deployment/re-deployment of the system, on unprepared sites.

Specifications:

Frequency: 1-2 GHz (D-Band)
Power output: 84 kW (peak) 1,764 Tx/Rx @ 2kW each
PRF: ?? pps
Range Resolution: ?? degree azimuth
Runup time: ??
Set up time: ??

Detection Range: 270nm (instrumented)

NOTES: Users include Austria, Czech, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Malaysia, Poland and Turkey.

SOURCES:
"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/RAT31DL/a001448. ; Leonardo. "RAT 31DL L-Band/Solid State 3D Air Surveillance Radar." Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/20142/0/RAT31+DL+%28mm08249%29.pdf?t=1631522945438. ; "RAT 31DL." Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/rat-31dl. ;"RAT-31 DL/M - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed September 16, 2021. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte012.en.html.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:17:36 PM

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OVERVIEW: The SA-22 GREYHOUND (57E6 and 57E6E) is two-stage, solid fuel, low-to-high altitude, short range surface-to-air missile using command guidance. It is equipped with a 20 kg HE fragmentation rod warhead.

DETAILS:

The 57E6YE surface-to-air missile features a high accelerationshort flight time at the boost phase.The missile uses an air-dynamic steering.

Specifications:

Weight: 71 kg
Length: 3.16m
Diameter: 0.09 m (missile) 0.170m (booster)
Wingspan: ?? m
Speed: knts (1300 m/s)
Range: 0.8-9.7 nm (1-18 km)
Engagement Altitude: 30-49,000 ft, (5-15000 m)
Max target speed: 1943 knts (1000 m/s)
Kill probability: 0.7-0.90
Maneuverability: unknown g

NOTES: IOC: 2012

SOURCES:
"2S6 Tunguska." Weaponsystems.net. Accessed July 31, 2021. https://weaponsystems.net/system/60-2S6+Tunguska. ; "Pantsir-S1 / S2 / SM Mobile Air Defense System." Thai Military and Asian Region. Last modified January 18, 2020. https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/pantsir-s1/. ; Pike, John. "57E6 / SA-22 GREYHOUND." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified 6, 2020. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/57e6.htm.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:31:46 PM

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The HQ-22 (Red Banner-22) SAM battalion is a semi-mobile, medium/long range air defense unit using a semi-active radar homing / radio-command guidance. It may be used for theater air defense.

DETAILS: The HQ-22 system is intended to complement the HQ-9/9B system and replace the obsolete HQ-2. The HQ-22 battery consists of 1 radar vehicle using the G band H-200 illumination/fire control radar and 3 TELs with 4 missiles each. A battery can engage 6 targets and can control up to 12 missiles simultaneously. The system is capable of engaging cruise missiles, short ranged ballistic missiles, and all manner of aircraft including bombers and drones. The HQ-22 system is reportedly designed to withstand to electronic countermeasures and operate in heavy jamming environments.

The HQ-22 missile uses command guidance and semi-active radar guidance with a dual guidance system. When firing at targets within 75 kilometers, it uses a command guidance system. The reason for adopting such a design is mainly to reduce the cost, so that it can be "downward compatible" to command the HQ-2 SAM.

The missiles are equipped with a semi-active radar CNS complemented by a two-way radio command line for data transmission. The flight is controlled by a combined guidance system. At the initial stage of flight (up to 75 km) is conducted using radio command guidance. Subsequent guidance uses TVM (Track-via-missile ). This dual guidance scheme reduces the sensitivity of the system to various electronic countermeasures.

The system is intended to be compatible with the HQ-2.

Specifications:

Maximum Acquisition Range: 110 nm (H-200)
Maximum Tracking Range: ?? nm (H-200)
Engagement Envelope: 164-88,583 ft; 50-27,000m (altitude), 2.6-92 nm (5-170km) range
Max Target Speed: ?? knts (head on), ?? knts (receding)
Reload Time: ?? minutes
Mobility: semi mobile
Emplacement/Displacement: ?? minutes.

NOTES: IOC: 2017. Intended to replace the HQ-2. Export version is the FK-3. Other users include Serbia and possibly Myanmar, Thailand, Turkmenistan.

SOURCES: "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Systems/HQ-22/a003805. ; "HQ-22 (FK-3) Anti-aircraft Missile System." Missilery.info | Missile Database. Descriptions and Specifications. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-22. ;"HQ-22 Long-Range Air Defense Missile System | Military-Today.com." MILITARY TODAY - Everything About Modern Warfare. Accessed May 31, 2021. https://www.military-today.com/missiles/hq_22.htm. ; Pike, John. "HQ-22 / FK-3 - Surface-to-Air Missile." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified October 2, 2021. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/hq-22.htm.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 3:32:32 PM

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OVERVIEW: The Zubr class (Project 1232.2, NATO reporting name "Pomornik") is a class of Soviet-designed air-cushioned landing craft (LCAC) designed to sealift amphibious units. Additionally, the Zubr can lay naval mines.

DETAILS:
The Zubr-class landing craft has a cargo area of 400 square meters (4,300 sq ft). It can carry three main battle tanks (up to 150 tons), or ten armored vehicles with 140 troops (up to 131 tons), or 8 armored personnel carriers of total mass up to 115 tons, or 8 amphibious tanks or up to 500 troops. Alternatively, it can carry and lay between 20-80 mines, depending on type.

The Zubr class remains seaworthy in conditions up to Sea State 4. The vessel has a cruising speed of 30�40 knots (56�74 km/h; 35�46 mph).

Specifications:

Displacement: 340 tons (light); 555 tons (full load)
Speed: 63 knts (max); 55 knts (sustained)
Range: 300 nm @55 knts
Endurance: 5 days
Complement: 27

NOTES: IOC 1988.

SOURCES: "The Project 12322 Air Cushion Landing Ship Zubr | Catalog Rosoboronexport." Рособоронэкспорт | Официальный сайт. Accessed May 22, 2021. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/surface-ships-ships-and-boats/zubr/. ;
"Zubr Class (Pomornik)." Naval Technology | Naval Defence News & Views Updated Daily. Last modified January 11, 2001. https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/zubr/.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 5:14:46 PM

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Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 6:21:42 PM

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quote:

Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
best regards Gert-Jan

Thank you! For the non-English speakers, you don't have to worry about your writing skills. I can edit your writing to fix any problems. The team just really needs your help in researching and drafting the description files. As far as what files need to be written: You can pick. Any unit/system that does not already have a description file is fair game. In other words, if you are interested in researching and writing about it, and we don't already have a database entry for that system, then feel free to submit something. Further, there is no production quota. If you just have a burning desire to write about ESR-220 Thutlhwa, and nothing else, that is okay. We will accept whatever you wish to submit.

One caveat: Sometimes, there is a description file for a system, but a database update has now assigned that system to another country that previously did not have it, so there is no description file for the system for that country's database entry. For example, there may be a database entry for the SA-5c GAMMON SAM system, and we may have description files for all the countries that have it. If hypothetically, an update to the database suddenly gave a new country that system, we don't need to research and write a new entry for the SA-5c GAMMON. We just need to copy the old entry, and assign it to the database entry for the new country's system.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 6:36:37 PM

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OVERVIEW: The MiG-23MF Flogger B is a single engine, variable-geometry, supersonic 3rd generation fighter aircraft. It had a secondary mission of ground attack.

DETAILS: The Flogger was intended to replace the MiG-21, and featured improved landing and takeoff performance, range and weapons capability over its predecessor.
The Flogger B was designed to be more reliable, maneuverable, and lighter than earlier Mig-23s. It achieved these goals by removing a fuel tank and improving aerodynamics, modernizing the avionics and flight control and up-rating the power plant. The Flogger G was equipped with the J-band (10-15 Ghz) Sapfir-23D-III aka HIGH LARK 2 (redesignated the Sapfir-23E for export) radar giving it a "look-down shoot-down" capability and maximum detection range of 65km against a fighter-sized target at high altitude, reduced to 25km in look-down mode.

The aircraft was powered by an R-29-300 turbojet engine, producing 27,500 lb of thrust.

The MiG-23M could maneuver up to 8.0 g. However, control issues at high AOA reduced the theoretical maneuverability of the MiG-23. Overall, the MiG-23 was a poor dogfighter. While its turning capability was comparable to an original F-4E Phantom, the F-15 or F-4E with slats could out-turn a MiG-23. Further, its low speed dogfighting characteristics were poor. The MiG-23 had excellent acceleration characteristics, particularly below 10,000 ft and could out-accelerate any American fighter, making it a good hit-and-run interceptor. The MiG-23's small profile made it hard to visually spot.

NOTES: IOC 1978 (approx.) This was an export derivative of the MiG-23M, (denoted "izdeliye 2A") produced from 1978 to 1983 for Warsaw Pact countries. Almost identical to the MiG-23M with small differences in communication and IFF equipment. Wing sweep mechanism failures and cracks in the wing pivots resulted in 5g limits being placed on the airframe until 1977, resulting in only BVR intercept and no basic fighter maneuvering training during this period.

SOURCE: "MiG-23M." Airwar.Ru. Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23m.html. ; Mladenov, Alexander. Soviet Cold War Fighters. Fonthill Media, 2017. ; Newdick, Thomas. "This Myth-Busting Walk-Around Of The Soviet MiG-23 Flogger Fighter Is A Must-Watch." The Drive. Last modified March 18, 2021. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch. ; "MiG-23ML." Airwar.Ru.Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23ml.html ; Davies, Steve. Red Eagles: America�s Secret MiGs. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2008 pg. 167 ; "Mikoyan MIG-23." Weapons and Warfare. Last modified November 14, 2020. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/11/25/mikoyan-mig-23/. ; "Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 (Flogger)." Military Factory - Global Defense Reference. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=151.

If I can alter this text I would delete information that prior 1977 there was 5g limitation as MiG-23MF was produced from 1978 (mentioned here).

For nonsoviet warsaw pact nations I have these user numbers for MiG-23:

Bulgaria
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 8 MiG-23ML from 1983 (factory designation MiG-23MLA; excluding one nonflying second hand used as training tool)
- 21 MiG-23MLD from 1984 (16 new built with factory designation MiG-23MLAE-2 and 5 second hand obtained in 1992 from Russia which were originally built as MiG-23MLA but modernized to soviet MLD)
- 36 MiG-23BN from 1976
- 15 MiG-23UB from 1976 (including one second hand)

Czechoslovakia
- 13 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 17 MiG-23ML from 1981 (factory designation MiG-23MLA)
- 32 MiG-23BN from 1978* (first two aircraft were delivered in last days od December 1977)
- 8 MiG-23UB from 1978

Hungary
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 4 MiG-23UB from 1979 (including one second hand)

Eastern Germany
- 12 MiG-23MF from 1978
- 32 MiG-23ML from 1982 (factory designation MiG-23MLA)
- 22 MiG-23BN from 1979
- 11 MiG-23UB from 1978

Poland
- 36 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 6 MiG-23UB from 1979

Romania
- 36 MiG-23MF from 1979
- 10 MiG-23UB from 1979 (including two second hand)

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 6:48:56 PM

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Love the idea and will try to support. English ain't my native tongue so that's making it a little harder but try to find data in books and on the internet.
best regards Gert-Jan

Thank you! For the non-English speakers, you don't have to worry about your writing skills. I can edit your writing to fix any problems. The team just really needs your help in researching and drafting the description files. As far as what files need to be written: You can pick. Any unit/system that does not already have a description file is fair game. In other words, if you are interested in researching and writing about it, and we don't already have a database entry for that system, then feel free to submit something. Further, there is no production quota. If you just have a burning desire to write about ESR-220 Thutlhwa, and nothing else, that is okay. We will accept whatever you wish to submit.

One caveat: Sometimes, there is a description file for a system, but a database update has now assigned that system to another country that previously did not have it, so there is no description file for the system for that country's database entry. For example, there may be a database entry for the SA-5c GAMMON SAM system, and we may have description files for all the countries that have it. If hypothetically, an update to the database suddenly gave a new country that system, we don't need to research and write a new entry for the SA-5c GAMMON. We just need to copy the old entry, and assign it to the database entry for the new country's system.

Somewhat related to this...I used to go in and look through systems that were identical but under a different country heading. I would copy them to a new file related to the new country. If you don't feel like typing in or pasting in new descriptions, you can do a lot with just finding those duplicates.

Its been quite a while since I did any of that, CV60 can jump in if that's a waste of time.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 7:30:01 PM

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First try :-)
Let me known if this is what you meant or not, regards GJ

OVERVIEW: The Holland class is a Damen built Netherlands Ocean Going Patrol Vessel (3750) for Anti-Piracy, Counter-drugs, SAR, Smuggler interception, etc. A Robust platform with limited weapon-fot but high-end sensor-fit.

DETAILS:
The Holland class is fitted with a large FRISC on a (fast) slipway at the stern and one FRISC in davits. Hanger and helopad for size NH-90. Crew of 54 with 36 extra personal accomodation. Integrated mast with Sensor & Communication system includingn Active phased array radar and EO/IR sensor. Weapons are 76mm Oto Melara, Rapid-fire 30mm Marlin and 12.7mm Hitrole MG's. First commissioned in 2011.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: standard 3750 tons
Speed: 22 max
Range: 5000 at 16
Endurance: 21 days
Complement: 52 + 38

NOTES:
One of there main operations is station ship in the Caribbean for the Dutch Antilles

SOURCES:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military///world/europe/hnlms-holland-opv.htm
https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/opv-holland-class/holland-class-ocean-going-patrol-vessel-3750
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2014/11/holland-class-offshore-patrol-boats-of.html
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/hollandclasspatrol/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland-class_offshore_patrol_vessel

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 8:02:06 PM

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Hi CV60

it's a good idea,
if you need a discord channel to compare in real-time information, to organize better and faster, or anything else let me know.

I will be happy to help

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:13:10 PM

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If I can alter this text I would delete information that prior 1977 there was 5g limitation as MiG-23MF was produced from 1978 (mentioned here).

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You are absolutely correct. I will delete that info for the Mig-23MF. Thanks

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:14:26 PM

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Deleted. Duplicate post spawn.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:16:33 PM

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:17:24 PM

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:23:02 PM

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Hi CV60

it's a good idea,
if you need a discord channel to compare in real-time information, to organize better and faster, or anything else let me know.

I will be happy to help

Thanks. Possibly that might be useful, if this project really gets going. For right now, possibly just leave it like this, so the community can see what we are doing?

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/27/2021 10:56:21 PM

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Here's a draft on the EL/M-2106 ATAR

OVERVIEW: The EL/M-2106 Advanced Tactical Acquisition Radar (ATAR) is a road mobile, 3-D medium-range AESA Air Defense radar, capable against low RCS targets. It operates in the D (NATO) "L" (IEEE) Band.

DETAILS: The EL/M-2106 ATAR can detect a wide variety of low RCS targets such as low flying fighter aircraft, helicopters, low velocity ultra-lights and UAVs. It is intended to operate either as a stand-alone radar or as part of a local air defense and surveillance system and can provide warning and target designation to AD systems through a wireless data link. It can also be used as a gap filler radar. It can simultaneously track up to 100 targets.

Specifications:

Frequency: 1-2 GHz (D Band)
Power output: 400 W; 1600 W Peak
PRF: ?? pps
Range Resolution: 30 m of range, 0.5 degrees bearing, 1 degree elevation
Runup time: ??minutes
Set up time: 15 min

Detection Range: 97 nm (instrumented)
59-38 nm (v. fighter aircraft)
21.5 nm (v. helos)
21.5-32 nm ( v. UAVs and ultralights)

NOTES: IOC 2007. Available as either a fixed site or truck tansportable. Users include India.

SOURCES: IAI. "ELM-2106 ATAR Tactical 3D Air Defense Radar." Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.iai.co.il/p/elm-2106-atar ; https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/ELM-2106%20ATAR%203D/a001423 Accessed September 27, 2021. ;"Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/ELM-2106%20ATAR%203D/a001423. ; "ELM-2106 ATAR � Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance." Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance � Making the World a Safer Place. Accessed September 27, 2021. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/defense-systems/elm-2106-atar/. ; IAI. "ELM-2106 ATAR Tactical 3D Air Defense Radar." Accessed September 27, 2021. https://web.archive.org/web/20141025053822/http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/0/38930.pdf

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/28/2021 8:46:33 AM

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Still searching which text to put in and what to leave out, sorry that my sentences still crappy. Working on it :-) Happy to receive pointers to improve.

OVERVIEW: The Karel Doorman JSS (Joint Support Ship) is a logistic support. Able to replenish other units at sea. Main functions are RAS (2 positions), sea transport and Sea basing in the high-end warfare environment.

DETAILS: The Karel Doorman is a Multipurpose ship to support the full spectrum of naval operations, including humanitarian, disaster relief, amphibious, sealift and underway fleet support. Sealift cargo includes 730m2 ammunition storage, 1000m2 general storage, 8700m3 fuel (7700t F76, 1000t F44), 125m3 and 2350m2 vehicle cargo space with Ro-Ro for vehicles. With extra personal complement can be 300 pax. A hanger and 2 helicopter spots up to chinook size helicopters inncludingn Osprey A/C. The hanger can store 2 chinooks or 6 NH-90's or 3 Osprey's. Two LCVP's in davits. The sensor suite for AS/SS includes phased array radar, EO/IR and ESM, weapons includes CIWS and ECM for self-portectection. The class has Diesel generators, 2 shafts with fixed propellors.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: 27.800 tons (full)
Speed: 18 max
Engineering: 5x RR Bergen dieselgenerators, 2x 8900 kW Electro-engines
Range: 9800 nm @ 12 kts
Endurance:
Complement: Crew 120 to 171 up to 300 for marines, staff, medical, etc

NOTES: Unit is used in very close international cooperation with other NATO/EU countries. Karel Doorman has Role 3 hospital facilities with 30 beds, 2 operations rooms, 10 medium-care and 3 ICU.

SOURCES: "Zr.Ms. Karel Doorman (A833) specifications." Marineschepen. Last modified 02-07-21. https://marineschepen.nl/schepen/jss.html;
"A 833 HNMLS Karel Doorman." Seaforces online. Last Modified July-2019. https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Netherlands-Navy/Amphibious-Ship/A-833-HNLMS-Karel-Doorman.htm;
"Karel Doorman Multipurpose ship (2015)." Navpedia. Last Modified 2019. https://navypedia.org/ships/netherlands/nl_ls_karel_doorman.htm;
"USMC MV-22 Osprey LAnded Aboard Royal Netherlands Navy JSS Karel Doorman." Navel Recognition. Last Modified 19-6-21. https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/year-2015-news/june-2015-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/2830-usmc-mv-22-osprey-landed-aboard-royal-netherlands-navy-jss-karel-doorman.html

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/28/2021 8:37:24 PM

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DB3000 #2797 AOPS 430 Harry DeWolf (Navy), 2021

Overview: The Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships (AOPS), designated the Harry DeWolf-class, are intended to conduct armed seaborne surveillance and sovereignty in Canada�s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), as well as on the Atlantic, Pacific, and Arctic coasts. In addition, they have been designed to operate in tropical theatres like the Caribbean and Mediterranean with a range of more than 6000 nautical miles, patrol duration of 4 months and the ability to operate in Sea State 4 and to penetrate ice up to 1m thick.

DETAILS: The hull of the Harry DeWolf-Class vessels is designed to meet the International Association of Classification Societies (IACS) Polar Class (PC) 5+ requirements. Each vessel will have a length of 97m, beam of 19m, draught of 5.7m and displacement of 6,400t. It will accommodate a crew of 65 members. The vessels can carry two 8.5m-long multi-purpose rescue boats with a maximum speed of more than 35k for rescue, personnel transfer and boarding missions, two 12m RCMP/JTF2/Navy mission-fit boarding/assault boats and a 12 metre landing craft. The vehicle bay houses pick-up trucks, all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) and snowmobiles. The ships are lightly armed with an armament of 1x 25/75 BAE Mk 38, and 2x 12.7/90. The flight deck, supports the operation of a variety of helicopters, ranging from a small utility aircraft to the Royal Canadian Air Force�s CH-148 Cyclone maritime helicopter and the Coast Guard's CH-149 Cormorant. The AOPS can also be integrated with payloads such as underwater survey equipment and shipping containers. A 20t crane with self-loading and unloading capability is also fitted on the ship.

Specifications:
Length 103 metres, Beam(width) 19 metres
Displacement: 6400t (full)
Speed: 17kts
Machinery: 4 diesel-generators, 2 electric motors
Endurance: 6,800nm(14kts)
Complement: 65
Hulls built: 2, +4 building
Period of Service: 2021-

Sources:
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/fleet-units/aops-home.page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Harry_DeWolf
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/harry-dewolf-class-arcticoffshore-patrol-ships-aops/
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/canada/can_es_harry_dewolf.htm
https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/app-acq/amd-dp/mer-sea/sncn-nss/npea-aops-eng.html
https://maritime-executive.com/article/landing-craft-for-canada-s-aops-complete-sea-trials

NOTES: 2x additional units will be built for the Canadian Coast Guard, they will be unarmed and have scientific labs onboard.

https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/app-acq/amd-dp/mer-sea/sncn-nss/arctique-coastgd-eng.html

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/28/2021 9:23:39 PM

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#3223 AOR MV Asterix, Resolve Class(Leased), 2018

Overview: The Resolve-class auxiliary oiler replenishment (AOR) vessel is a retrofit of the MS Asterix container vessel to support the Royal Canadian Navy�s at-sea replenishment capability. Delivery of the ship was made in December 2017.

Detail: Designed in accordance with Lloyds Register classification standards, the Resolve-class ship is intended to supply ammunition, fuel, food, water, power, and spare parts to the Canadian naval forces at sea. It can also be used for humanitarian assistance and disaster relief missions. As part of the conversion project, Project Resolve consortium was contracted to rebuild and equip the MV Asterix vessel with naval technology to military specifications. The Resolve-class auxiliary oiler replenishment ship features double-hull design with a bulbous bow. The supply ship accommodates 150 crew members and up to 350 humanitarian assistance and disaster relief personnel. Its accommodation section has space for briefing, and conference rooms for command and control functions. A large flight deck is provided at the stern to support ship-to-shore airlift operations conducted by two embarked Cyclone CH-148 helicopters, which will be housed in two hangars located next to the accommodation unit.

Up to four NATO STREAM-type replenishment-at-sea masts are installed amidships to refuel and resupply two ships simultaneously at sea in difficult weather conditions. The supply ship is capable of transporting 10,500m� of F76 marine diesel fuel, 1,300m� of F44 aviation fuel, 400t/day of fresh water, 300t of ammunition, and significant power. The fuel will be stored in pre-fabricated tanks featuring triple-protection walls. A vehicle bay located on tween-deck is intended for carriage of trucks, light armoured vehicles and jeeps. The bow section has a protected containerised storage area for storing 38 containers, including 20 refrigerated, ammunition and supplies. The containers can be loaded or unloaded using two 30t cargo cranes.

Specifications:
Length: 182.5m, Beam 25.2m (width)
Displacement: 26,000t (full)
Speed: 22kts
Machinery: MAN 7S60 MC-C Mk8, 16,660 kW (22,340 hp), bow thruster
Endurance: 10,000nm
Complement: 150 +350 (HaDR)
Armament: (provisions for, but not fitted with) 3 � Phalanx CIWS
Aviation facilities: aft deck - 1 landing spot and 2 hangars capable of holding Chinook size helicopters
Helicopter: 2 x CH-148
Stores: F76 (Marine Diesel) 10,500m3, F44 (Aviation Fuel) 1,300m3
RAS Masts: 4 STREAM type
Hospital: NATO 2E
Small craft: 8 assorted (4x RHIB, 2x Fast Rescue Craft, 2x Lifeboats, 2x LCVP)
Hulls built: 1
Period of Service: 2018-

Sources:
https://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/assets/NAVY_Internet/docs/en/news/rcn_iaor-fs_eng.pdf
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/canada/hmcs-aor-asterix-specs.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Resolve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Asterix
http://federalfleet.ca/2016/06/02/resolve-class-aor/
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/resolve-class-auxiliary-oiler-replenishment-aor-vessel/

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/29/2021 2:31:51 PM

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OVERVIEW: The Mercuur is a Submarine support and training ship capable of firing and recovering (exercise) torpedoes. She also acts frequently as staff ship for MCM operations.

DETAILS: Training also consists of torpedo exercises with above water units and as OPFOR and target ship. Sonsors are I-band navigation radar and a passive sonar. There is space to fit two 20mm MG's, Torpedo tubes of 324mm (above water) & 533mm (underwater). She has a RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat) for recovering torpedoes. Refit in 2015.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: 1500 full
Speed: 14 (max)
Engineering: 2 MAN 6L-20/27 diesels
Range: ?
Endurance: ?
Complement: Crew 28 with 11 spares

NOTES: HNLMS Mercuur is primary not designed as warwafe capable ship to reduce costs and has more civil parts

SOURCES:"HNLMS Mercuur (A900) Torpedo workship." Marineschepen. Last Modified:8-5-20 .https://marineschepen.nl/schepen/mercuur.html;
"HNLMS Mercuur (A900)." Wikipedia. Last Modified: 24-11-20. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Mercuur_(A900);
"Refit RNLN torpedo ship Zr Ms Mercuur by Damen." Naval Recognition. Last Modified: 21-5-15. https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/year-2015-news/may-2015-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/2742-refit-and-maintenance-of-rnln-torpedo-ship-zr-ms-mercuur-by-damen.html

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/29/2021 6:20:59 PM

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Draft MiG-23MS Flogger H for comment by the community. There isn't too much to write about regarding the Flogger H. If anyone has any interesting "factoids" that might be interesting to the player, please let me know, and I'll add it.

OVERVIEW: The MiG-23BN aka Flogger H is a single engine, variable-geometry, supersonic 3rd generation fighter-bomber.

DETAILS: The MiG-23B series of fighter-bombers were intended to replace the inadequate MiG-17 and Su-7s that were filling the attack role in the 1960's. The initial small production version of the fighter bomber was the MiG-23B. After only about 24 aircraft were produced, it was superseded by the MiG-23BN/Flogger H.

The Flogger H lacked the HIGH LARK radar used by the MiG-23 fighters. Instead, it had the Sokol-23N nav-attack system. It also included the internal SPS-141 Siren jammer that was optimized for use against the fire control radar of the Hawk an Nike-Hercules SAMs. The MiG-23's small profile made it hard to visually spot.

The aircraft was powered by an R-29B-300 turbojet engine, producing 23,370 lb of thrust.

NOTES: IOC 1973 (approx.) Approximately 624 MiG-23BNs were built from 1973-1985, mostly for export. The "A" subvarient was almost identical to the Soviet version, and was exclusively for export to Warsaw Pact countries. The "B" subvarient featured downgraded countermeasures gear and avionics; it was provided to Algeria, Cuba, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Iraq, Libya, and Syria.

SOURCE: "MiG-23M." Airwar.Ru. Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23m.html. ; Mladenov, Alexander. Soviet Cold War Fighters. Fonthill Media, 2017. ; Newdick, Thomas. "This Myth-Busting Walk-Around Of The Soviet MiG-23 Flogger Fighter Is A Must-Watch." The Drive. Last modified March 18, 2021. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch. ; "MiG-23ML." Airwar.Ru.Accessed September 20, 2021. https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig23ml.html ; Davies, Steve. Red Eagles: America�s Secret MiGs. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2008 pg. 167 ; "Mikoyan MIG-23." Weapons and Warfare. Last modified November 14, 2020. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/11/25/mikoyan-mig-23/. ; "[2.0] Attack & Trainer Floggers." AirVectors. Accessed September 28, 2021. https://www.airvectors.net/avmig23_2.html. ;
Skyfire85, Skyfire77 A. "Flightline: 190 - MiG-23 (NATO Reporting Name: Flogger)." DriveTribe. Last modified August 4, 2021. https://drivetribe.com/p/flightline-190-mig-23-nato-reporting-Vm87NtuDRoqWKdf4gJ7-qQ?iid=HJ9uv6v_Ski5iWEja89oiQ.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/29/2021 6:27:28 PM

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#3387
Not sure what the Mid-life update is gonna be.

OVERVIEW: Johan de Witt is a Landing Platform Dock Amphibious warfare ship with large staff & logistics capabilities.

DETAILS: The Johan de Witt is a DieselElectric-powered Multipurpose ship with pods to act in the high-end warfare. Operations includes humanitarian, disaster relief, sealift and amphibious operations.

Logistics, the RoRo space is 2100m2 for up to 170 vehicles or 33 tanks and another 770m2 for cargo/ammo, with a 25t crane. 4x LCA or 2x LCU in well deck, 4x LCVP or 12m RHIB in davits And 1 small 7m RHIB under the crane. Can also accommodate FRISC, LCAC and have provissions for CB90.

Aviation facilities include a hanger and a large flightdeck (58x25m) with two landing spots. The Hanger can hold 6xNH90 or 4xEH101, other helicopters onboard can be Chinook, Cougar, Osprey and all similar in characteristics.

For Amphibious operations she can hold 555 marines. The spare beds can also be used for medical personal, evacues, etc. The Johan de Witt is equipt with Operation rooms, ICU, Laboratory and X-ray.

The sensor suite includes AS/SS radar & LPI nav radar with EO/IR and ESM sensors, weapons are 12.7 mm MG, CIWS and ECM for self-protection.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Displacement: 15000 tons (full)
Speed: 19.5 kts
Engineering: 4 x Stork Warstila diesels (14.6MW), 2 x Holec Electric motors (11MW), 2 Schottel SEP 5 Electric Propulsor Pods
Range: 6000 nm @ 12 kts, 10000 @ 12
Endurance: 30 days with 555 marines onboard + 10 days support after marines ashore
Complement: 146 Crew & 555 extra for staff, marines, medical personal or evacues

NOTES: Johan de Witt is an evolved build of HNLMS Rotterdam

SOURCES:"Johan de Witt Landing Platform Dock." Marineschepen. Last Modified:24-4-21 . https://marineschepen.nl/schepen/johandewitt.html#specs;
SOURCES:"L801 HNLMS Johan de Witt." seaforces. Last Modified:Jul-2019 . https://seaforces.org/marint/Netherlands-Navy/Amphibious-Ship/L-801-HNLMS-Johan-de-Witt.htm
SOURCES:"Johan de Witt Amphibious transport dock." Navpedia. Last Modified:2019 . https://navypedia.org/ships/netherlands/nl_ls_johan_de_witt.htm

best regards GJ

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/30/2021 6:13:17 PM

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Draft MiG-23BN Flogger H for comment by the community. There isn't too much to write about regarding the Flogger H. If anyone has any interesting "factoids" that might be interesting to the player, please let me know, and I'll add it.

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Although not implemented in the game now the SPS-141 ECM covers only frontal aspect of MiG-23BN due to antennas installation in front of the aircraft. May be this information could be added here.

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 9/30/2021 10:17:00 PM

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Draft MiG-23BN Flogger H for comment by the community. There isn't too much to write about regarding the Flogger H. If anyone has any interesting "factoids" that might be interesting to the player, please let me know, and I'll add it.

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Although not implemented in the game now the SPS-141 ECM covers only frontal aspect of MiG-23BN due to antennas installation in front of the aircraft. May be this information could be added here.

Thanks. I will add that. (That is one of the good things about the description files-We can put things here that are true, but are not yet implemented in the game). If you have a source for that infor, I will add it to the "Sources" file

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RE: IDEA/PROPOSAL: Community creation/review of unit de... - 10/1/2021 6:28:24 PM

Filitch

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ORIGINAL: CV60
Instead, it had the Sokol-23N nav-attack system.

A little more details. Mig-23BN had navigation system KN-23, attack system Sokol-23S (Сокол, Hawk) consists of bomb sight PBK-3-23S, gun (optical) sign ASP-17, laser rangefinder "Fon" ("Фон", Background).

The laser rangefinder "Fon" has range 400 - 5000 m, instrumental error 30 m.

The KH-23 system provided automatic flight on a route with three waypoints and ingress to the target. Memorize up to four landing airfields, provides flight and approach to landing to 40-50 m altitude.

https://studfile.net/preview/6169435/
Teaching material on KN-23

SPS-141 illuminates in forward hemisphere.
I Band (8-10 GHz) [Old X Band] 3-3.75 cm
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/sps-141-siren-reb/

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