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ORIGINAL: actrade

Leaving again? Didn't you do this a few months ago? Dude stop with the drama. Loki is a big boy and I hate to see him go as well, but I seriously doubt you leaving is going to have an impact on his decision.

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: actrade

Leaving again? Didn't you do this a few months ago? Dude stop with the drama. Loki is a big boy and I hate to see him go as well, but I seriously doubt you leaving is going to have an impact on his decision.

No, won't have any impact at all on Loki. I just stepped away for awhile to not say anything bad about the game/Loki on the forum. I like the game too much to leave. Last time was because of work and I had no choice.

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Hey guys, let's let Loki and HLYA come and go as they choose. Loki has been a huge member of the team and continues to provide great testing insight and changes for the living manual. Being a moderator can be tough sledding some times and the game can take a lot out of a person. It's very common for our long term testers to step back periodically. HLYA has also provided a lot of insight and useful feedback. I'm sure no offense was intended on anyone's part, but let them do what they feel necessary. Hopefully both will stay engaged with the game in one way or another over time. We all need to step back and recharge at times. I do want to say Roger (Loki) has been doing an amazing job testing, helping answer questions on the forum, writing the best manual we've ever put out, and revising the living manual. He continues to provide lots of feedback in our tester forum. If I were him I'd be burned out on the game after all that, so hats off to him.

As for the air game issues, all I can say is that this is on the list to be looked at, but unfortunately it has to wait until the editor work is done. We've put that off a long time and we really need to focus on it. The air game can't be easily tweaked without a lot of focus and testing time, and Pavel is responsible for both the editor and the bulk of the air game. So it will have to wait. We will get to it eventually though. In the meantime, since Gary is responsible for the bulk of the ground game, that is getting out attention and testing time now.

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Hey guys, let's let Loki and HLYA come and go as they choose. Loki has been a huge member of the team and continues to provide great testing insight and changes for the living manual. Being a moderator can be tough sledding some times and the game can take a lot out of a person. It's very common for our long term testers to step back periodically. HLYA has also provided a lot of insight and useful feedback. I'm sure no offense was intended on anyone's part, but let them do what they feel necessary. Hopefully both will stay engaged with the game in one way or another over time. We all need to step back and recharge at times. I do want to say Roger (Loki) has been doing an amazing job testing, helping answer questions on the forum, writing the best manual we've ever put out, and revising the living manual. He continues to provide lots of feedback in our tester forum. If I were him I'd be burned out on the game after all that, so hats off to him.

As for the air game issues, all I can say is that this is on the list to be looked at, but unfortunately it has to wait until the editor work is done. We've put that off a long time and we really need to focus on it. The air game can't be easily tweaked without a lot of focus and testing time, and Pavel is responsible for both the editor and the bulk of the air game. So it will have to wait. We will get to it eventually though. In the meantime, since Gary is responsible for the bulk of the ground game, that is getting out attention and testing time now.

Thank you Joel. I didn't quit, I just stepped away for the afternoon from the game to let things cool down. I love Loki and I 2nd he has been a great inspiration for many players here.

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Hey guys, let's let Loki and HLYA come and go as they choose. Loki has been a huge member of the team and continues to provide great testing insight and changes for the living manual. Being a moderator can be tough sledding some times and the game can take a lot out of a person. It's very common for our long term testers to step back periodically. HLYA has also provided a lot of insight and useful feedback. I'm sure no offense was intended on anyone's part, but let them do what they feel necessary. Hopefully both will stay engaged with the game in one way or another over time. We all need to step back and recharge at times. I do want to say Roger (Loki) has been doing an amazing job testing, helping answer questions on the forum, writing the best manual we've ever put out, and revising the living manual. He continues to provide lots of feedback in our tester forum. If I were him I'd be burned out on the game after all that, so hats off to him.

As for the air game issues, all I can say is that this is on the list to be looked at, but unfortunately it has to wait until the editor work is done. We've put that off a long time and we really need to focus on it. The air game can't be easily tweaked without a lot of focus and testing time, and Pavel is responsible for both the editor and the bulk of the air game. So it will have to wait. We will get to it eventually though. In the meantime, since Gary is responsible for the bulk of the ground game, that is getting out attention and testing time now.

Thank you Joel. I didn't quit, I just stepped away for the afternoon from the game to let things cool down. I love Loki and I 2nd he has been a great inspiration for many players here.

Glad you're sticking around. and hope Loki does as well, moderator or no, he provides valuable insight. As do you.

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Hey guys, let's let Loki and HLYA come and go as they choose. Loki has been a huge member of the team and continues to provide great testing insight and changes for the living manual. Being a moderator can be tough sledding some times and the game can take a lot out of a person. It's very common for our long term testers to step back periodically. HLYA has also provided a lot of insight and useful feedback. I'm sure no offense was intended on anyone's part, but let them do what they feel necessary. Hopefully both will stay engaged with the game in one way or another over time. We all need to step back and recharge at times. I do want to say Roger (Loki) has been doing an amazing job testing, helping answer questions on the forum, writing the best manual we've ever put out, and revising the living manual. He continues to provide lots of feedback in our tester forum. If I were him I'd be burned out on the game after all that, so hats off to him.

As for the air game issues, all I can say is that this is on the list to be looked at, but unfortunately it has to wait until the editor work is done. We've put that off a long time and we really need to focus on it. The air game can't be easily tweaked without a lot of focus and testing time, and Pavel is responsible for both the editor and the bulk of the air game. So it will have to wait. We will get to it eventually though. In the meantime, since Gary is responsible for the bulk of the ground game, that is getting out attention and testing time now.

Thank you Joel. I didn't quit, I just stepped away for the afternoon from the game to let things cool down. I love Loki and I 2nd he has been a great inspiration for many players here.

Glad you're sticking around. and hope Loki does as well, moderator or no, he provides valuable insight. As do you.

I hope Loki does too. I understand where he is coming from in our emails. I believe we want the same thing but I am not elegant in my manner in how I present things at times on my posting. I personally am not that good in the game. I make lots of mistakes and don't know the manual as others on this forum do. Trial and error is my mantra with in depth mind mapping things out on paper for cause & effect. I try to share my insights for good or bad which I have done both for people to see.

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

I make lots of mistakes and don't know the manual as others on this forum do. Trial and error is my mantra with in depth mind mapping things out on paper for cause & effect.

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ORIGINAL: heliodorus04

Hatred over a game! Yep, I remember that.
The plurality, if not majority of fans of War in the East 1 and 2 are pro-Soviet sycophants who look at their opponents as actual psuedo-Nazis for thinking that the game should give even a glimmer of hope that the Axis can achieve any kind of victory condition that occurs while the Hitlerites are on the soil of Mother Russia...

You are all beta testers of a game with so much data that the game only accidentally resembles warfare during World War Two on the Eastern Front. This game is so ridiculously over-modeled with data that it produces inexplicable results.

This is not a game for tacticians or students of history. It is not even a game for people who appreciate the details of difficult operational warfare. It is a game for data miners to improve on Zhukov's magnum opus.

Remember when they banned Pelton when he started pointing stuff out about playtester bias (albeit like a crazy-person) back in WitE2 alpha testing? No? Just me? mKay...

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ORIGINAL: kahta


This is a game. I think it's time we all start acting like it.

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ORIGINAL: heliodorus04
Hatred over a game! Yep, I remember that.
The plurality, if not majority of fans of War in the East 1 and 2 are pro-Soviet sycophants who look at their opponents as actual psuedo-Nazis for thinking that the game should give even a glimmer of hope that the Axis can achieve any kind of victory condition that occurs while the Hitlerites are on the soil of Mother Russia...

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Remember when they banned Pelton when he started pointing stuff out about playtester bias (albeit like a crazy-person) back in WitE2 alpha testing? No? Just me? mKay...

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