Tanaka
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As one that is still a relative NOOB here, only been playing for about 3 to 4 months, I have seen the forum get a lot grumpier since I first came online. What as originally a rather welcoming place quickly degenerated into a lot of RTFM. From a NOOBs perspective, let me say that there is reading the manual, understanding the manual and trying to ask questions regarding tactics which will never be in the manual. Flame wars are never fun and generally not helpful for those that have to read them. I know as I used to get into my share of them back in the 90s. Been on BBSs since the late 80s.
On the subject at hand, I had not even looked at threat tolerance yet. Been mostly just using TF routing, but I am only into late March of 42 so this is something I probably should be aware of. I like the idea of the combat report with the moon phases on it and second would like to learn how to do that.
But honestly I have gotten to the point I don't even like posting questions anymore will all the RTFM responses.
Yeah it is defintely no longer an inviting forum welcoming newbies or growth anymore. It has basically become a private old man club. I have come to pretty much expect to have to defend every single question I ask at this point. I've gotten used to it and these old codgers don't scare me. In any form of teaching or learning there is no such thing as a stupid question just stupid responses that waste your time. I know most of the rules but want to improve on my tactics. For example I knew how the threat tolerance rules worked for the most part I just wanted to hear from some players on some different ideas how they might use them. No one ever considers how new players might benefit from questions being asked. Just the same old get the f out responses. It has basically become the old man in rocking chair yelling get off of my lawn forum. Or it is just Karens wanting to complain about everything and helping nothing. They would rather spend all of their time bitching rather than using 1/5 of that time just to post a quick link or suggestion which no one is even requiring them to do. So just move on if you don't want to. Is that really such a difficult thing to do? But no must be a Karen.
Freind, this is a family.forum. Your retort as often does comes off as childish and your vague accusations is troll like behavior.
Could it be that some find you intellectually lazy? You've asked nothing that can't be solved by using common sense or covered numerous times each year and/or in documentation.
Earlier in the thread.You pointed out your value to others by creating these threads.... Let me correct you, the value is only added when people give their time, share their knowledge and answer your questions.
You are probably right that I am being too vague in my defense against aggressors. I am letting a few bad eggs that will not stop attacking me ruin my view of this forum. Back in the days of Uncommon Valor and War in the Pacific I loved these forums. But something has changed and they have become toxic. Forum members are literally saying they are afraid to even ask questions anymore. You are right I should blame only a few bad eggs for that.
I find a lot of people a lot of things on this forum but I never attack anyone unless attacked first. And I will defend myself. So what is the definition of an internet troll:
In internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere, digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as social media (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.), a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses,[2] or manipulating others' perception. This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process. Even so, Internet trolling can also be defined as purposefully causing confusion or harm to other users online, for no reason at all.
So that being said lets break it down for the intellectually lazy. I bring up a subject for discussion when I can't find everything I am looking for in the manual or forum. Get attacked for it. Defend myself. And you call me the troll.
I did not point out my value. I pointed out the value of posts that bring up discussions. Take out all of the toxic noise and all of my posts have. Like it or not.
So yes value to this forum is added when people ask questions and people give their time to discuss and share and answer. That is how a forum is supposed to work.
I am playing my very first PBEM ever at the moment and a lot more questions have come up than vs the AI and I am trying to improve things even more. I see almost every post in the Opponents wanted section is seeking Japanese Fan Boy opponents but there are very few out there available because of the work learning the complexity of playing the Japanese and the unfun situation of being manhandled after 1942 by the super forces of the Allies. Well here is one and I am being chased off the forums.
I always try and search the manual and forums before I make a post. I may not always perfectly find what I am looking for. I don't know how else to say that anymore...
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For those who hit the report button, all I get when that happens is a blank email. I got three of those with an actual PM telling me what's going on.
People, chill with the personal attacks. In the future I suggest if someone seems to be repeating a question that has already been asked, move on to a different thread rather than go on the attack.
But in short, just stop the personal attacks!
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