Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Alfred,

I have been googling for hours to find this stuff and looking at the various files. ChemKid was listed as one of the best map makers, but is AWOL. Babes made maps that allowed reduction of stacking limits. The main difference between most of these files hex representations and borders versus topo or stylized. The stock has about 8 files and the extended maybe 50.

Alfred, I think that was rude. I know it's a pandemic, and that may have interrupted your therapy visits. But if you cannot contribute, then just move along please, and don't post in my threads.

Thank you. (The next I am going to report you to a moderator. Reason: discouraging customers from purchasing Matrix products.)

PS: I am a Matrix beta since around 2003.

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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

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ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

I was a tester on WITE-2, so I am very familiar with that one. It's a very good game, but it does not hold my attention like WITP-AE does.

This game is more complex, and has alot more strategy nuances, too much to possibly put here! It takes awhile to get knowledgeable, but if you're not afraid of PBEM there are newer players here

In general, a few things:

1. If you are hung-up on graphics, this is not your game. It's functional enough. If you like WITE-2, you'll be fine.
2. With 1-day turns, it's a big commitment; much more than WITE-2 with 1-week turns. Games are going to take years, literally
3. The forum is AWESOME for advice; you can post almost any question and it will get answered in detail. Use the SEARCH feature first, but acknowledge that it's not very effective all the time

I would take the plunge and buy it, you won't regret it as long as you understand the time commitment

3. Unfortunately have to disagree here. The forum has become a difficult place to ask ANY question even if you have searched the forum and manual. There are a lot of helpful people here but also difficult ones that will attack you just for asking a question. Be prepared to be chastised. I think it is because the forum and a lot of the players have been around for such a long time (We go back to PacWar, Uncommon Valor, and WITP) and everything has been discussed at some point you just have to weed through everything to find it. This can be difficult because there is so much out there. Oh and if you take a break for a few years be prepared to have to learn a lot of it all over again.

It is the biggest most complicated difficult game on the planet to learn and playing as the Japanese is a whole other level and game in itself (the economy) so you will have lots of questions. Try and find the answer yourself first but if you can't be prepared to defend your question. Like he said the search function can be difficult to use and not everything is perfectly specified in the manual and patch notes you need more player perspective/experience for a lot of things.

That being said DEFINITELY get this game. As Strategy Dojo also says in his series and I completely agree this is the best game ever made as so many here will attest and you will get a lifetime of game play. I do not think another game this great will ever be made again. I say it is the best game ever made because it was made by experts in every field that came together that will never come together again to make another game like it ever again. Truly a once in a lifetime accomplishment by an amazing team:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2173764

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot

I download a big zip from ChemKid, but I don't know what I have! :)

TMP Dot Borders Upgrade (X).zip
TMP Hex Borders Upgrade (X).zip
TMP Hexless Borders Upgrade (X).zip
TMP Pure Borders Upgrade (X).zip
TMP RnR Borders Upgrade (X).zip
stock
TopPoMap
Yamamoto

Can extended maps be used with the stock game and scenarios?

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot

ChemKid was listed as one of the best map makers, but is AWOL.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Tanaka,

Again thanks for the guidance.

The forums belong to the publisher. They exist to sell games and promote customer retention. Actions to the contrary require administration.

If you are neither an employee nor beta, then you are under no obligation to answer questions.

My posting here on topics and doing game tutorials was so extensive that two edited PDF volumes were made by Matrix and hosted by Matrix. Each volume was about 100 pages.

That was in the past as Matrix was sold by David Heath. But Erik is still here from the old days. These days Matrix is more of a retained brand name. The developer I was most involved with, Panther Games, decided to leave.

I used to play H2H even before the internet using a MODEM and Compuserve. I stopped in 1994 reaching the top of a USA national ladder. Mainly because many entrants were not interested in gaming, but the chance to degrade and humiliate others.

These days game expertise can be used to feed the psychotic tendencies of some individuals through forums such as these as you have noted. They avoid admin action under the cloak of being an expert. But it comes at the heavy cost of lost sales which for niche game such as this is very bad.

Tanaka, I am happy we met. My name is Mark.

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ORIGINAL: Shellshock

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot

ChemKid was listed as one of the best map makers, but is AWOL.

To this day I don't think anyone quite knows what happened with the cartographically talented Chemkid. He replaced the text of all his posts with a "." which had to be a rather tedious undertaking since he was over 1,200 in the post count.

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ORIGINAL: JosephM

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ORIGINAL: Halsey

You might not want to post Chemkids reworked maps.
There were copyright issues involved, hence no more Chemkid.

Hello Halsey,

Sorry, but Chemkid has contacted us about the issue. He made these himself and therefore there should be no copyright issue. He deleted the links on his forum posts for mods he made himself then later requested to delete his forum account. But he has confirmed he is happy for users to share his mods if users still have access to these (he chose to delete the links in his own posts himself). There was never a copyright issue to our knowledge and Chemkid is confused as to why you would suggest this. He does still monitor the forums, but due to issues in his personal life he is no longer posting.

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ORIGINAL: Shellshock



To this day I don't think anyone quite knows what happened with the cartographically talented Chemkid. He replaced the text of all his posts with a "." which had to be a rather tedious undertaking since he was over 1,200 in the post count.

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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Tanaka,

Again thanks for the guidance.

The forums belong to the publisher. They exist to sell games and promote customer retention. Actions to the contrary require administration.

If you are neither an employee nor beta, then you are under no obligation to answer questions.

My posting here on topics and doing game tutorials was so extensive that two edited PDF volumes were made by Matrix and hosted by Matrix. Each volume was about 100 pages.

That was in the past as Matrix was sold by David Heath. But Erik is still here from the old days. These days Matrix is more of a retained brand name. The developer I was most involved with, Panther Games, decided to leave.

I used to play H2H even before the internet using a MODEM and Compuserve. I stopped in 1994 reaching the top of a USA national ladder. Mainly because many entrants were not interested in gaming, but the chance to degrade and humiliate others.

These days game expertise can be used to feed the psychotic tendencies of some individuals through forums such as these as you have noted. They avoid admin action under the cloak of being an expert. But it comes at the heavy cost of lost sales which for niche game such as this is very bad.

Tanaka, I am happy we met. My name is Mark.

Could not agree more. And you as well. Glad to have another Matrix vet around here especially one that has been so involved in past games. Hope you don't let the negativity run you off. Don't be afraid to ask questions! Cheers!

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Tanaka,

Again thanks for the guidance.

The forums belong to the publisher. They exist to sell games and promote customer retention. Actions to the contrary require administration.

If you are neither an employee nor beta, then you are under no obligation to answer questions.

My posting here on topics and doing game tutorials was so extensive that two edited PDF volumes were made by Matrix and hosted by Matrix. Each volume was about 100 pages.

That was in the past as Matrix was sold by David Heath. But Erik is still here from the old days. These days Matrix is more of a retained brand name. The developer I was most involved with, Panther Games, decided to leave.

I used to play H2H even before the internet using a MODEM and Compuserve. I stopped in 1994 reaching the top of a USA national ladder. Mainly because many entrants were not interested in gaming, but the chance to degrade and humiliate others.

These days game expertise can be used to feed the psychotic tendencies of some individuals through forums such as these as you have noted. They avoid admin action under the cloak of being an expert. But it comes at the heavy cost of lost sales which for niche game such as this is very bad.

Tanaka, I am happy we met. My name is Mark.

Could not agree more. And you as well. Glad to have another Matrix vet around here especially one that has been so involved in past games. Hope you don't let the negativity run you off. Don't be afraid to ask questions! Cheers!

Maybe you should desist from ad hominem attacks if you actually want some detailed answers.

Edit-spelling.

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Ian,

I am not interested in the forum’s OOB.

If you have no desire to sell WITP-AE and/or assist with customer retention. then please depart my thread.

Thank you.

PS: The holiday shopping season will soon be here. Many will be visiting forums wanting to answer 2 questions. Is the game a solid buy? Is it a helpful friendly community? If you think well of GG and Team and that their efforts should be rewarded, then show it by how you behave to visitors.

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ORIGINAL: MarkShot
PS: I am a Matrix beta since around 2003.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Ian,

I am not interested in the forum’s OOB.

If you have no desire to sell WITP-AE and/or assist with customer retention. then please depart my thread.

Thank you.

PS: The holiday shopping season will soon be here. Many will be visiting forums wanting to answer 2 questions. Is the game a solid buy? Is it a helpful friendly community? If you think well of GG and Team and that their efforts should be rewarded, then show it by how you behave to visitors.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Alfred,

I have been googling for hours to find this stuff and looking at the various files. ChemKid was listed as one of the best map makers, but is AWOL. Babes made maps that allowed reduction of stacking limits. The main difference between most of these files hex representations and borders versus topo or stylized. The stock has about 8 files and the extended maybe 50.

Alfred, I think that was rude. I know it's a pandemic, and that may have interrupted your therapy visits. But if you cannot contribute, then just move along please, and don't post in my threads.

Thank you. (The next I am going to report you to a moderator. Reason: discouraging customers from purchasing Matrix products.)

PS: I am a Matrix beta since around 2003.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Alfred,

I have been googling for hours to find this stuff and looking at the various files. ChemKid was listed as one of the best map makers, but is AWOL. Babes made maps that allowed reduction of stacking limits. The main difference between most of these files hex representations and borders versus topo or stylized. The stock has about 8 files and the extended maybe 50.

Alfred, I think that was rude. I know it's a pandemic, and that may have interrupted your therapy visits. But if you cannot contribute, then just move along please, and don't post in my threads.

Thank you. (The next I am going to report you to a moderator. Reason: discouraging customers from purchasing Matrix products.)

PS: I am a Matrix beta since around 2003.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

I was a tester on WITE-2, so I am very familiar with that one. It's a very good game, but it does not hold my attention like WITP-AE does.

This game is more complex, and has alot more strategy nuances, too much to possibly put here! It takes awhile to get knowledgeable, but if you're not afraid of PBEM there are newer players here

In general, a few things:

1. If you are hung-up on graphics, this is not your game. It's functional enough. If you like WITE-2, you'll be fine.
2. With 1-day turns, it's a big commitment; much more than WITE-2 with 1-week turns. Games are going to take years, literally
3. The forum is AWESOME for advice; you can post almost any question and it will get answered in detail. Use the SEARCH feature first, but acknowledge that it's not very effective all the time

I would take the plunge and buy it, you won't regret it as long as you understand the time commitment

3. Unfortunately have to disagree here. The forum has become a difficult place to ask ANY question even if you have searched the forum and manual. There are a lot of helpful people here but also difficult ones that will attack you just for asking a question. Be prepared to be chastised. I think it is because the forum and a lot of the players have been around for such a long time (We go back to PacWar, Uncommon Valor, and WITP) and everything has been discussed at some point you just have to weed through everything to find it. This can be difficult because there is so much out there. Oh and if you take a break for a few years be prepared to have to learn a lot of it all over again.

It is the biggest most complicated difficult game on the planet to learn and playing as the Japanese is a whole other level and game in itself (the economy) so you will have lots of questions. Try and find the answer yourself first but if you can't be prepared to defend your question. Like he said the search function can be difficult to use and not everything is perfectly specified in the manual and patch notes you need more player perspective/experience for a lot of things.

That being said DEFINITELY get this game. As Strategy Dojo also says in his series and I completely agree this is the best game ever made as so many here will attest and you will get a lifetime of game play. I do not think another game this great will ever be made again. I say it is the best game ever made because it was made by experts in every field that came together that will never come together again to make another game like it ever again. Truly a once in a lifetime accomplishment by an amazing team:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2173764

Now you know why I posted this. Welcome to Alfred's forum.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5094598

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Tanaka,

Again thanks for the guidance.

The forums belong to the publisher. They exist to sell games and promote customer retention. Actions to the contrary require administration.

If you are neither an employee nor beta, then you are under no obligation to answer questions.

My posting here on topics and doing game tutorials was so extensive that two edited PDF volumes were made by Matrix and hosted by Matrix. Each volume was about 100 pages.

That was in the past as Matrix was sold by David Heath. But Erik is still here from the old days. These days Matrix is more of a retained brand name. The developer I was most involved with, Panther Games, decided to leave.

I used to play H2H even before the internet using a MODEM and Compuserve. I stopped in 1994 reaching the top of a USA national ladder. Mainly because many entrants were not interested in gaming, but the chance to degrade and humiliate others.

These days game expertise can be used to feed the psychotic tendencies of some individuals through forums such as these as you have noted. They avoid admin action under the cloak of being an expert. But it comes at the heavy cost of lost sales which for niche game such as this is very bad.

Tanaka, I am happy we met. My name is Mark.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka


...Could not agree more. And you as well. Glad to have another Matrix vet around here especially one that has been so involved in past games. Hope you don't let the negativity run you off. Don't be afraid to ask questions! Cheers!

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkShot

Tanaka,

Again thanks for the guidance.

The forums belong to the publisher. They exist to sell games and promote customer retention. Actions to the contrary require administration.

If you are neither an employee nor beta, then you are under no obligation to answer questions.

My posting here on topics and doing game tutorials was so extensive that two edited PDF volumes were made by Matrix and hosted by Matrix. Each volume was about 100 pages.

That was in the past as Matrix was sold by David Heath. But Erik is still here from the old days. These days Matrix is more of a retained brand name. The developer I was most involved with, Panther Games, decided to leave.

I used to play H2H even before the internet using a MODEM and Compuserve. I stopped in 1994 reaching the top of a USA national ladder. Mainly because many entrants were not interested in gaming, but the chance to degrade and humiliate others.

These days game expertise can be used to feed the psychotic tendencies of some individuals through forums such as these as you have noted. They avoid admin action under the cloak of being an expert. But it comes at the heavy cost of lost sales which for niche game such as this is very bad.

Tanaka, I am happy we met. My name is Mark.

More self promotion.


1. Still no explanation of what a Matrix Beta does.

A Matrix beta certainly isn't a forum moderator. We know who the AE moderators are and their avatar clearly identifies the relevant individual to be moderator. No such identification on your avatar.

Nor is a developer (design, coding, artwork, OOB research etc) of a game published by Matrix have Beta on their avatar. The many AE developers had no distinguishing mark on their avatar; they didn't feel the need for the extra publicity. The AE developers were clearly identified by the quality and nature of their posts over a period of many years. Plus their patching of the earlier classical WITP said enough. Other game developers do have a mark on their avatar but they don't repeat ad nauseam, hey look at me I'm important.


2. Nor how does one achieve Matrix Beta status.

Seems to me all that one has to do to reach this status is to sign up as a beta tester of a Matrix published game. That entails signing a Non Disclosure Agreement. Not much more in the way of any relevant experience or qualifications is needed.

We know for a fact, MarkShot was not a beta tester for AE. How many other Matrix published games has he also not been a beta tester for. That being the factual case, is he really entitled to claim to be a Matrix Beta since 2003 (see post #4) for that strongly implies he has been a beta tester on all games published by Matrix since 2003. An interesting legal question thereby arises whether in certain jurisdictions he has broken the law by deliberately misrepresenting himself.


3. Nor what are the rewards.

Clearly being a Matrix beta is not considered by the company to mean they are a staff member. Matrix Staff Members receive remuneration from the company, as well as being clearly recognised as such on their avatar. To the best of my knowledge, there is no remuneration paid to game beta testers, unless one is to argue that the early game playing experience together with perhaps a free copy of the game (which they get anyway else they can't do their testing) constitutes proper remuneration from Matrix. Good luck arguing that position in a court of law.


4. psychotic tendencies

A very thinly disguised dig at me. Obviously, coming from a Matrix Beta since 2003, directed at one who isn't, it can't be categorised as being rude. Oh no of course not.

Yet one has the thought, is MarkShot qualified to make such a diagnosis, I mean where did he study, where is he registered to practice, and what exactly is the evidence the diagnosis is based on. Or is it all just a case of self displacement onto others, what the layman would call, "it takes one to know one".


Overall, another lengthy post whose only discernible value seems to lie in impressing the rest of us. Still nothing relevant for the subject matter of this thread or AE in general.

Alfred