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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/10/2021 6:11:40 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 6:38:44 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 10:27:31 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 3:19:12 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 3:53:57 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 3:54:29 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/11/2021 11:00:55 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 7:14:57 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 10:55:04 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 11:02:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone else noticed that instead of helping new players with AE that some veterans of the game would rather talk about search skills of new players? Why not help them learn how to search for their answers instead of berating them. I too get frustrated when the same question is asked over and over again. But I have a choice, answer or not....GP

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 5:38:01 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 5:39:24 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed that instead of helping new players with AE that some veterans of the game would rather talk about search skills of new players? Why not help them learn how to search for their answers instead of berating them. I too get frustrated when the same question is asked over and over again. But I have a choice, answer or not....GP


I agree, GP. Too many folks have a problem with simply choosing not to respond to a post.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 6:10:07 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed that instead of helping new players with AE that some veterans of the game would rather talk about search skills of new players? Why not help them learn how to search for their answers instead of berating them. I too get frustrated when the same question is asked over and over again. But I have a choice, answer or not....GP

I have no problem with new players asking questions if they have made enough effort to find info (like look in the manual) and have refined their question into something that can be answered. Questions that are very broad would require too much time for a forumite to answer and questions that are a matter of player preference (like playing with various settings) can only be answered by the player for themself.

I expect players to try the various buttons and hypertext switches to find out what they do immediately and how it affects the game. The reason I counsel playing the small scenarios first is that many of these questions are answered by using the interface to play them. I cringe when a newcomer insists they can play the Grand Campaign off the bat and then peppers the forum with questions they could have answered for themselves by being humble enough to recognize how much they have to learn. The cliff is steep but you must pull yourself up primarily on your own efforts.

So, from that curmudgeonly viewpoint, I claim the right to object when I feel someone is expecting me to do their work for them!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/12/2021 6:10:42 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/13/2021 8:07:46 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/13/2021 9:27:07 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed that instead of helping new players with AE that some veterans of the game would rather talk about search skills of new players? Why not help them learn how to search for their answers instead of berating them. I too get frustrated when the same question is asked over and over again. But I have a choice, answer or not....GP

I have no problem with new players asking questions if they have made enough effort to find info (like look in the manual) and have refined their question into something that can be answered. Questions that are very broad would require too much time for a forumite to answer and questions that are a matter of player preference (like playing with various settings) can only be answered by the player for themself.

I expect players to try the various buttons and hypertext switches to find out what they do immediately and how it affects the game. The reason I counsel playing the small scenarios first is that many of these questions are answered by using the interface to play them. I cringe when a newcomer insists they can play the Grand Campaign off the bat and then peppers the forum with questions they could have answered for themselves by being humble enough to recognize how much they have to learn. The cliff is steep but you must pull yourself up primarily on your own efforts.

So, from that curmudgeonly viewpoint, I claim the right to object when I feel someone is expecting me to do their work for them!



Sorry, but mission one is to help new and even veteran players. People who can't just shouldn't post. And that is all I'm going to say about that....GP

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/13/2021 9:28:46 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/13/2021 10:07:01 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/13/2021 11:33:50 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 12:02:52 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 12:53:04 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 8:29:18 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 10:01:38 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 11:48:56 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 6:17:49 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 8:04:12 PM   
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Tithe. Long overdue. My apologies, I've remiss , as well as absent.

I thought maybe you got caught up in the fall of Sauron's black tower in Mordor!
Glad to see you are still about. Welcome back.




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 8:10:51 PM   
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Tithe. Long overdue. My apologies, I've remiss , as well as absent.

I thought maybe you got caught up in the fall of Sauron's black tower in Mordor!
Glad to see you are still about. Welcome back.




Thank you. I'm not really back per se . I had a stroke just after last Christmas which left me pretty much blind in my right eye. (Despite nearly a year of getting shots in the eye , I can't read at all with it. Unfortunately that also has mead it difficult to read , especially computer screens). I've been "lurking " occassionally , and my long suffering partner in a PBEM , "Geoff the gorn" has put up with my trying to work on our PBEM.

But I'm really not all that active on a computer these days. It's always good to look in and see that you guys are still mostly here though.



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 9:08:18 PM   
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Tithe. Long overdue. My apologies, I've remiss , as well as absent.

I thought maybe you got caught up in the fall of Sauron's black tower in Mordor!
Glad to see you are still about. Welcome back.




Thank you. I'm not really back per se . I had a stroke just after last Christmas which left me pretty much blind in my right eye. (Despite nearly a year of getting shots in the eye , I can't read at all with it. Unfortunately that also has mead it difficult to read , especially computer screens). I've been "lurking " occassionally , and my long suffering partner in a PBEM , "Geoff the gorn" has put up with my trying to work on our PBEM.

But I'm really not all that active on a computer these days. It's always good to look in and see that you guys are still mostly here though.


At least you are still on this side of the grass . . .

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 9:11:39 PM   
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Tithe. Long overdue. My apologies, I've remiss , as well as absent.

I thought maybe you got caught up in the fall of Sauron's black tower in Mordor!
Glad to see you are still about. Welcome back.




Thank you. I'm not really back per se . I had a stroke just after last Christmas which left me pretty much blind in my right eye. (Despite nearly a year of getting shots in the eye , I can't read at all with it. Unfortunately that also has mead it difficult to read , especially computer screens). I've been "lurking " occassionally , and my long suffering partner in a PBEM , "Geoff the gorn" has put up with my trying to work on our PBEM.

But I'm really not all that active on a computer these days. It's always good to look in and see that you guys are still mostly here though.


At least you are still on this side of the grass . . .



Welcome back dude....GP

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/14/2021 11:44:19 PM   
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Tithe. Long overdue. My apologies, I've remiss , as well as absent.

I thought maybe you got caught up in the fall of Sauron's black tower in Mordor!
Glad to see you are still about. Welcome back.




Thank you. I'm not really back per se . I had a stroke just after last Christmas which left me pretty much blind in my right eye. (Despite nearly a year of getting shots in the eye , I can't read at all with it. Unfortunately that also has mead it difficult to read , especially computer screens). I've been "lurking " occassionally , and my long suffering partner in a PBEM , "Geoff the gorn" has put up with my trying to work on our PBEM.

But I'm really not all that active on a computer these days. It's always good to look in and see that you guys are still mostly here though.




It's good to see you, buddy! Very sorry to hear of your vision issues. Any chance that it could improve from this point? I think vision problems are one of the medical conditions that I would hate the most.

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