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RE: Axis fuel usage and production. - 12/2/2021 12:52:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dreamslayer

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ORIGINAL: Sauron_II
In fact, one of the factors involved with going to war with the Soviet Union stemmed from Soviet aggression toward Romania (i.e. Bessarabia) and the need to secure oil supplies from Romania.

So the secret part of Soviet-German Treaty of Non-Aggression (aka Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact) just a myth ...
Also how about that Germany before the war received an oil from USSR?


If you want to get technical, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was solely non-aggression and delineation of spheres of influence.
(https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/125339/1393_Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact.pdf)

However, Soviet Union felt "spheres of influence" equated to "occupation" and "annexation" :)

There were further economic agreements, which included export of oil (and other strategic materials) to Germany.

The oil received from Russia was just a fraction of that obtained from Romania. I have the figures somewhere.....

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Russian deliveries of oil to Germany up to June 1941 amounted to at least 900,000 tons


1939-1940 Germany imported 619,600 tons of oil from Soviet Union
1941 Germany imported 256,300 tons of oil from Soviet Union

1939 Germany imported 974,000 tons of oil from Romania
1940 Germany imported 1,007,000 tons of oil from Romania
1941 Germany imported 2,086,000 tons of oil from Romania


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In 1941 the Ploesti wells produced 5.5 million tons of oil and in 1942 another 5.7 million tons; of these totals, Antonescu supplied the Germans from 1941 with about 3 million tons per annum of refined Romanian oil


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Germany's increasing reliance on Rumanian oil during the first two years of the war was a major source of anxiety to Hitler, who frequently expressed his concern that the Ploesti oilfields in Rumania lay within striking distance of the Soviet Air Force's long-range bombers. 'Now, in the era of air power', he told his generals on 20 January 1941, 'Russia can turn the Rumanian oilfields into an expanse of smoking debris . . . and the very life of the Axis depends on those fields.'


The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was nothing more than a "marriage of convenience". It just gave Germany a way of re-acquiring lost WWI territories while keeping the Soviet Union off their ass at the time.

The "Pact", was not much of a Pact was it, if Germany invaded Soviet Union in 1941, while 50% of the scheduled oil deliveries to Germany from Russia had not even been delivered yet? The "proof is in the pudding" in this regard. Germany was much more concerned with the Romanian Oil than whatever they were receiving from Soviet Union.

The "Pact" was struck before the Finnish War (Winter 1939), before the Soviet Union's annexation of Bessarabia (1940) and before the Soviet occupation of the Baltic States (1940), all of which caused Germany much anxiety.

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RE: Axis fuel usage and production. - 12/2/2021 8:44:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: loki100

for the same game turn:




That's definitely much lower than in my early game, by about 60k. So this might be the buffer that cushions any fuel production problems. Does lower civilian consumption have any effect on the game? There is an ominous warning in the manual about manpower losses, but I doubt it has any effect.

I am not sure I like it, but in a way that is what happened in real life. The German economy was so resilient because it still had a lot of civilian consumption to cut in 1941, probably a lot more so than the Soviet economy. But I am not certain that was true for fuel.

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