Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Jagger2002

This is kind of a minor nitpick but I thought I would bring it up anyway. In the Elsenborn scenario, each US regiment has 3 battalions of infantry and then a 4th unit composed of 6 105mm howitzers, 6 57mm anti-tank guns and 17 bazookas.

That 4th regimental unit is a strange mixture of units as the battery of howitzers are long range artillery while the 57mm ATGs and bazookas are frontline troops. Historically the 57mm ATGs would be tactically attached as needed within frontline units requiring the additional ATG assets. And the battery of howitzers would be deployed behind the lines.

In game, the problem is when deploying the unit into the line as a needed ATG asset, it exposes the howitzers to frontline dangers. If placed in the rear, the howitzers are hidden and useable but the ATG assets are wasted. To use both howitzers and the ATG assets actively, they must be in the frontline which exposes howitzers to frontline risks.

Anyway, it was bothering me and I decided I would simply detach the 57mm and bazookas into any frontline infantry battalions that needed extra ATG assets. Also I could shift those 57mm ATGs and bazookas to other units as necessary. Unfortunately, even though infantry battalions have both bazookas and 57mm ATG assets within their TOE, their numbers are capped and will not accept additionally bazookas or 57mm ATG above their TOE. So that solution will not work except as replacements. If the unit has lost bazookas or 57mm ATGs, I can replace them from that How/ATG unit.

So still stuck with a hybrid unit of both frontline and rear troops. I am wondering if the three frontline infantry battalions should have empty TOE slots for adding extra 57mm ATGs and bazookas when necessary from the regimental How/ATG unit?

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You can distribute the 57mm ATG and the Bazookas from the Regimental Artillery component to the Inf.Btl; because they are already there in the TO&E.

I'd leave the 4 Bazookas with the Rgt.Art though, just in case some Panzers show up.

Klink, Oberst

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ORIGINAL: Jagger2002

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You can distribute the 57mm ATG and the Bazookas from the Regimental Artillery component to the Inf.Btl; because they are already there in the TO&E.

I'd leave the 4 Bazookas with the Rgt.Art though, just in case some Panzers show up.

Klink, Oberst

I tried but I was not allowed to transfer 57mm or bazooka's from Reg Art into an infantry batt unless the inf batt had suffered losses. Basically I could replace their losses but total numbers were not allowed to exceed the number set by TOE. So an inf batt which has full strength 57mm and baz would not allow me to transfer more 57mm and baz into unit.

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They are 13th and 14th company of the regiment, the 57mm were generally used to protect the artillery and the regimental HQ area !

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Function & Mission
Hence, the main function of the anti-tank company was to provide protection against enemy tanks in coordination with the battalion’s anti-tank platoons. To achieve this, the primary missions were reinforcing the front-line battalions to deepen the anti-mechanized defense and to protect the flank or rear of the regiment. Secondary missions were attacking enemy observation posts, fortifications, gun emplacements or other enemy positions. Note that if during a secondary mission a primary mission appeared the anti-tank units should switch without order to the primary mission, meaning engaging enemy armored and mechanized troops. (FM-7-35 March 1944: p.13-14)

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Oh, you tried it in-game. I thought you edited the history model file. And no, you can't transfer stuff in-game that exceeds the TO&E.

Klink, Oberst

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ORIGINAL: Jagger2002

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Oh, you tried it in-game. I thought you edited the history model file. And no, you can't transfer stuff in-game that exceeds the TO&E.

Klink, Oberst

Yes, I haven't tried any sort of editing at this point. My thoughts were possibly having empty slots available in infantry batt TOEs allowing for temporary transfer of 57mm and maybe bazookas into battalions. Although that might cause a problem with replacements. If so, I suspect the problem would be minor to non-existent. I have never noticed a lot of equipment replacements coming in.

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but also you can sub divide the AT Guns out into a separate unit