Slitherine

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In May 2022 Iran announced it would not sign any international agreement that limits its nuclear program and that it would begin developing nuclear weapons. Across the middle east contingency plans for such an event were about to be put into action.

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ORIGINAL: BDukes

Pretty sure not all lua code fired. 0 losses for me and some successful runs.

My strategy was use the drones to pave the way. Sweep with F-35's and F-15C's. Bang away at the airdefenses with Delilah's and Rampages and Bomb with F-35, F-15I and F-16. Used my Jerichos to shwack air defense radars and SA-5.

Never saw any defense fires or advanced SAMS. Pretty much wiped the fighter cover away.

Bunch of saves uploaded so you can see what was going on

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ORIGINAL: BDukes
Just ran in player mode Israeli side. All loadouts are maintenance so can't change them. All but the two top lua scripts fail. Probably an errant line in the one file. Just checked same issue with second side. Sorry about that. Scenario is really cool and look forward to the end product

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ORIGINAL: SunlitZelkova

Hi,

Some video was released a couple weeks ago showing Iran launching ballistic missiles at what appeared to be a mockup of the Dimona reactor in Israel- https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-war-games-gulf-were-warning-israel-top-iranian-commanders-2021-12-24/

How far you want to widen the scope of the scenario is up to you, but striking missiles if they are detected, and the launch against Israel's nuclear program and associated ABM engagements, might be something to add.

Some issues I will note-

1. It is unknown just how fast Iran might decide to retaliate

2. I'm not sure just how easy it is detect ballistic missile launches by other means, i.e. SIGINT, HUMINT, cyber intelligence, etc. That would be a factor to consider in giving the player the opportunity to pre-empt a launch without having to rely on aircraft to find them.

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ORIGINAL: Kushan04

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ORIGINAL: BDukes
Just ran in player mode Israeli side. All loadouts are maintenance so can't change them. All but the two top lua scripts fail. Probably an errant line in the one file. Just checked same issue with second side. Sorry about that. Scenario is really cool and look forward to the end product

Thanks for catching that. Should be fixed now. Uploaded a new version to the first post.

Sorry I missed this one, stupid mistake on my part, and a reminder that I should make sure I test outside the editor.

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SIDE: Israel
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LOSSES:
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2x F-15A Eagle [Baz]
1x F-15C Eagle [Akef-2000]
6x F-15I Eagle [Raam]
2x F-16I Falcon [Sufa]


EXPENDITURES:
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92x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3
24x Delilah-AL
6x ELL-8270
16x GBU-28C/B Deep Throat LGB/GPS [BLU-122/B]
24x GBU-39/B SDB
12x GBU-54(V)1/B LJDAM [MPR-500 Penetrator]
41x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
24x Jericho 3 [1000kg HE Conventional]
24x Jericho 3 [1000kg HE Conventional] RV
1x Python 5
40x Rampage
12x SPICE 2000 GPS/EO [Mk84]



SIDE: Iran
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LOSSES:
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3x Building (Bar Lock C [P-37]) [Cargo]
3x Building (Guard post)
13x Building (Large)
22x Building (Medium)
34x Building (Small)
3x Building (Square Pair [5N62]) [Cargo]
6x Building (Watch Tower)
2x Diesel (40k Liter Tank)
22x F-14A Tomcat [F-14AM]
8x F-4E Phantom II
10x HQ-2b Guideline Single Rail [Cargo]
22x M192 I-HAWK [Cargo]
8x MiG-29 Fulcrum A
6x Misagh-2 MANPADS [Cargo]
1x Radar (Cheese Board [96L6E])
1x Radar (China JY-14 Great Wall)
8x SA-20b Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL [Cargo]
4x SA-5c Gammon Single Rail [Cargo]
8x Structure (Pipeline - Overhead)
1x Structure (Tunnel Entrance)
2x Underground Hardened Bunker (C3M)
7x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI) [Cargo]
4x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-48 CWAR) [Cargo]
4x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR) [Cargo]
3x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR) [Cargo]
2x Vehicle (Cheese Board [96L6E]) [Cargo]
2x Vehicle (Chop Rest) [Cargo]
2x Vehicle (Gin Sling B [ZD-2(B)]) [Cargo]
2x Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6E]) [Cargo]


EXPENDITURES:
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2x 370 USG Drop Tank
1x 600 USG Drop Tank
2x AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR TSARH]
23x AIM-54A Phoenix [Fakour-90 Mod]
6x AIM-7E2 Sparrow III
2x AIM-7E4 Sparrow III
66x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
28x MIM-23B I-HAWK
62x SA-20b Gargoyle [48N6E2]



SIDE: Task Force 50
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: United States / Israel
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: United States
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: Syria
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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ORIGINAL: BDukes
Can you widen the gap between Egypt and Jordan? It is just narrow enough to make the nav code go bonkshit with 4 ship flight groups.

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ORIGINAL: BDukes

A fantastic day of gaming. Thanks, Kushan!

Lost because I hit the reactor and a bunch of things I shouldn't have. Before that I was golden. Really good scenario! I did give Nantanz and Arak the business.

I don't really think the Israeli side has anything that can jam western radars but they should be able to.

Going to add some of the newer Iranian systems or SA-15s?

I did a lot of fighting with the interface-that is not you. I think I'll drop the Jordanian no fly zone next go. F-16's had to be watched as a lot of edge-line ranges. Biggest issue was the initial squeeze but then everything wanted to RTB through Syria. Didn't have the mental toughness to wrangle that so quit after everybody that could, fired and RTB'd.

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ORIGINAL: Kushan04

Can the Skyshield OECM Pod not jam the western radars?

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Scenario can be tough as the Israelis. You don't have a lot of refueling capacity and the F-16 doesn't have the longest legs in the world. When I first played it on my stream in Dec, I barely managed to get my whole strike force home. Refueled the returning fighters just enough to get them home, then unassigned them from the refueling. Like you said takes a lot of wrangling. It's not helped that aircraft that are RTB want to refuel to max even though they don't need it all to make it back to base.

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ORIGINAL: Kushan04

Posted a new version with the tweaked NFZ around the Sinai. I didn't encounter any issues in my testing but let me know if there still path finding issues.

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ORIGINAL: BDukes
The blocking issue is I can't shoot Amraam's off Sufa's or F-15I's. I end up getting into dog fight range with Pythons. Played with altitudes but kept getting the illuminated by own radar or CEC capable radar error message where it seems it should be ok. Putting a report as I'm not sure exactly what it is (radar modes?)

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ORIGINAL: BDukes
I've been having to constantly declare Iran hostile. I tried manual and setting up a zone but there is a time gap in the cycles so its a repetitive thing. Why this matters is-contacts and targets are dropped.

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ORIGINAL: BDukes
Talash is straight-up broken. Wrong radars and illuminators aren't linked. Reported here:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=5135033

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Do you have a save of this you can share? I haven't seen that happening at all. There's no event that should be doing that.

As a side note, Iran is intentionally set to unfriendly. I wanted to let the player decide when to start hostilities. It's not so much of a problem when playing as Israel, but when playing testing as the US, the carrier CAP had a tendency to kick things of immediately by going after the southern Iranian CAP if they where set to hostile from the start.

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ORIGINAL: BDukes

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Do you have a save of this you can share? I haven't seen that happening at all. There's no event that should be doing that.

As a side note, Iran is intentionally set to unfriendly. I wanted to let the player decide when to start hostilities. It's not so much of a problem when playing as Israel, but when playing testing as the US, the carrier CAP had a tendency to kick things of immediately by going after the southern Iranian CAP if they where set to hostile from the start.

I do. Take a look at the attached file. I've got 7 more save files if you'd like them. It was 7MB so will have to host somewhere. Let me know.

I set up a zone to keep declaring them hostile so I wouldn't have to keep manually doing it.

Mike

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Distant Worlds 2 beta

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ORIGINAL: KnightHawk75

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Distant Worlds 2 beta

...and we never saw him again.

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ORIGINAL: Kushan04

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ORIGINAL: BDukes

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Do you have a save of this you can share? I haven't seen that happening at all. There's no event that should be doing that.

As a side note, Iran is intentionally set to unfriendly. I wanted to let the player decide when to start hostilities. It's not so much of a problem when playing as Israel, but when playing testing as the US, the carrier CAP had a tendency to kick things of immediately by going after the southern Iranian CAP if they where set to hostile from the start.

I do. Take a look at the attached file. I've got 7 more save files if you'd like them. It was 7MB so will have to host somewhere. Let me know.

I set up a zone to keep declaring them hostile so I wouldn't have to keep manually doing it.

Mike

Thanks Myk. I see whats going on for both issues.

For the AMRAAMs it appears all the Iranian aircraft are set to be autodetectable and that's messing with the ability to fire. As a quick test I turned it off for a few of the F-14s, once the OODA loop timer expired the F-15 and F-16s both automatically engaged with AMRAAMs. I used a script to set all of a sides units to autodetectable for the Iranian SAMs but there's no exception for aircraft. *facepalm*

For hostilities I accidentally unchecked collective responsibility. No idea how that got unchecked, I made no changes to sides in this version.

I'll work up a fixed version later this evening before I get sucked back into the Distant Worlds 2 beta.