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Sub vs Sub - 1/13/2022 8:07:49 PM

Tcao

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I know in WW 2 there were only one or two incidents involve one submarine try to intentionally sink another submarine. So it is an exciting moment to see a sub vs sub action in WITPAE

Scenario operation Buccaneer
on Oct 26th 1943 a Dutch sub was sank by a IJN Sub. in an excitement I forgot to take a screenshot when the torp hit the poor SS KXII

But five days later, another engagement happened outside Rangoon. This time the Dutch sub SS KXI took a revenge for their fallen brothers.

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/13/2022 10:15:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tcao

I know in WW 2 there were only one or two incidents involve one submarine try to intentionally sink another submarine. So it is an exciting moment to see a sub vs sub action in WITPAE

Scenario operation Buccaneer
on Oct 26th 1943 a Dutch sub was sank by a IJN Sub. in an excitement I forgot to take a screenshot when the torp hit the poor SS KXII

But five days later, another engagement happened outside Rangoon. This time the Dutch sub SS KXI took a revenge for their fallen brothers.

Sub vs sub combat in the game is rare enough that even misses seem interesting.

In a feat I wish I could repeat from the actual war, the sub USS Batfish managed to sink three Japanese submarines in one patrol. She was kind of the USS England of the Silent Service.

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/13/2022 11:00:00 PM

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In late WWII in the North Sea (I think) a British sub tracked a German sub and working only on sonar bearings, with both subs submerged, sank the U-boat with a spread of torpedoes. That was the first sub-vs-sub sinking while both were submerged.

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/13/2022 11:10:12 PM

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In late WWII in the North Sea (I think) a British sub tracked a German sub and working only on sonar bearings, with both subs submerged, sank the U-boat with a spread of torpedoes. That was the first sub-vs-sub sinking while both were submerged.

Yes, U-864 became a rather unique victim of HMS Venturer off the coast of Norway in 1945. Apparently, to this day believed to be the only known instance of this happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-864

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/14/2022 12:35:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

In late WWII in the North Sea (I think) a British sub tracked a German sub and working only on sonar bearings, with both subs submerged, sank the U-boat with a spread of torpedoes. That was the first sub-vs-sub sinking while both were submerged.

This was on the history Channel a while back....GP

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/14/2022 12:58:51 AM

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/15/2022 12:28:01 AM

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Actually sub vs sub incidents were relatively common during WW2. In the Pacific approximately 17 IJN submarines were sunk by Allied submarines (one should remember that submarines were only surface ships that could submerge and still surface in those days) and a couple of American subs were sunk by IJN subs.

(figures taken from TROMs of IJN subs at Nihon Kaigun/combinedfleet.com)

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RE: Sub vs Sub - 1/15/2022 12:29:37 AM

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In world war I , at least 4 royal navy subs were sunk by other submarines during the war. Whether both were submerged when that happened, I do not know.

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