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Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/2/2022 2:10:05 PM   
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I've tried forming Guards Tank Corps out of 2 Guards TBs and one Motorised brigade without success. I noticed an issue back in earlier versions where you needed to breakdown and buildup the new TC to get it to convert to Guards, but that doesn't work either (probably because subunits no longer keep their won/loss record).

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/2/2022 2:52:42 PM   
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What date is it? If its before December 1942 then that is WAD. You can only start building Guard Tank Corps in December of 1942.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/2/2022 4:10:10 PM   
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Really? I somehow missed that. Never mind then, not a bug.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/2/2022 4:12:50 PM   
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Yes, it should be in the living manual. Was changed a few versions ago.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/5/2022 3:10:09 PM   
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Ok, turns out this is a problem after all. Once I hit December 42 I got a series of TC->GTC promotions and thought all was well. Then in March 43 I collected some more GTBs to build GTCs. The interface did not recognise 2 GTB + 1 MotB as producing a GTC, and built TCs instead. Deploying them, breakdown, and rebuild and they stayed TCs. Only possibility I can think of is this is disallowed when you already have greater than the max Guards motorised percentage - I'm at 27% in Mar43. Manual says 35% is max, but suspect it's now in gradations over time.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/5/2022 4:16:50 PM   
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Please post a save from the March turn so Joel can take a look.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/5/2022 5:07:19 PM   
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In the attached save I've played on until April, and got a GTC promotion from wins, so I definitely have room for more GTCs at 29% Guards motorised. 2 GTBs and an MotB available to form a GTC, instead they create a TC.

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/6/2022 7:32:01 PM   
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Does the manual say that you can build guards tank corps by using guards brigades? Is there another way to do it in the game? Maybe it's WAD that you have to earn tank corps guards status?

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RE: Guards TBs not building into Guards TC (Beta) - 2/6/2022 11:21:45 PM   
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Huh. Well, no, it's not in the manual, but it definitely used to be possible, and is mentioned in the pearls of wisdom.

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