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Vals at Truk - 2/12/2022 3:26:23 AM   
Tanaka


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Status: offline 		Can anyone tell me why I can add Kate and Zero replacments for my carriers at Truk but not Vals? Really scratching my head over this one...Do Vals need more supply?

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/12/2022 3:41:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have Vals in your replacement pool???

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/12/2022 4:39:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also note that there are two Val models available. You might have pools for one but not the other,

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/12/2022 10:24:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Can anyone tell me why I can add Kate and Zero replacments for my carriers at Truk but not Vals? Really scratching my head over this one...Do Vals need more supply?


Perhaps the unit took replacements the last 7 days, you can only take 12 aircraft as replacements once every 7 days.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 12:29:30 AM   
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Do you have Vals in your replacement pool???


Yes over 100.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 12:29:54 AM   
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Also note that there are two Val models available. You might have pools for one but not the other,


June 42. Only have the first version.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 12:30:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Can anyone tell me why I can add Kate and Zero replacments for my carriers at Truk but not Vals? Really scratching my head over this one...Do Vals need more supply?


Perhaps the unit took replacements the last 7 days, you can only take 12 aircraft as replacements once every 7 days.


Definitely been more than 7 days maybe a month even. Actually I think the last time I was at Truk I could only replace Zeros and Kates then too...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 1:11:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 1:40:55 AM   
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I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?


Well, the manual stated you need to have 20,000 supply, so I guess that is the problem.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 2:42:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?


Well, the manual stated you need to have 20,000 supply, so I guess that is the problem.


Right thought so but I was replacing Zeros and Kates thus the confusion...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 4:02:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is the CV capable of handling Vals? The Val could not fold its wings (due to the stresses experienced by the wings while in a dive) thus it took a much larger elevator than ANY of the CVLs could handle. Not sure that AE simulates this but it could explain why you can't take Val replacements.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 5:05:48 AM   
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Is the CV capable of handling Vals? The Val could not fold its wings (due to the stresses experienced by the wings while in a dive) thus it took a much larger elevator than ANY of the CVLs could handle. Not sure that AE simulates this but it could explain why you can't take Val replacements.


Yes it is all six big carriers...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 7:22:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: spence

Is the CV capable of handling Vals? The Val could not fold its wings (due to the stresses experienced by the wings while in a dive) thus it took a much larger elevator than ANY of the CVLs could handle. Not sure that AE simulates this but it could explain why you can't take Val replacements.

AE doesn't simulate this to my knowledge, you should be able to place every kind of aircraft on every carrier in the game.
edit: every kind of carrier capable aircraft of course

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 12:45:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is one area of factual considerations that the developers chose to ignore. Many aircraft, especially ones later in the war, were too big to "fit" on many CVs/CVLs and certainly CVEs. I would assume due to the complexity of this problem it was decided to just let it be. In the game, any carrier capable A/C can fit AND operate on any CV type.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 1:22:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tanaka


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ORIGINAL: Nomad


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ORIGINAL: Tanaka

I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?


Well, the manual stated you need to have 20,000 supply, so I guess that is the problem.


Right thought so but I was replacing Zeros and Kates thus the confusion...



The Zeroes and Kates have longer range so they get replaced by some HQ that isn't in range for the Vals.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/13/2022 8:07:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy


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ORIGINAL: Tanaka


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ORIGINAL: Nomad


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?


Well, the manual stated you need to have 20,000 supply, so I guess that is the problem.


Right thought so but I was replacing Zeros and Kates thus the confusion...



The Zeroes and Kates have longer range so they get replaced by some HQ that isn't in range for the Vals.


Aha! That might be the culprit let me look into that...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/14/2022 9:09:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy


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ORIGINAL: Tanaka


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ORIGINAL: Nomad


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

I am below 20,000 supply is this the culprit?


Well, the manual stated you need to have 20,000 supply, so I guess that is the problem.


Right thought so but I was replacing Zeros and Kates thus the confusion...



The Zeroes and Kates have longer range so they get replaced by some HQ that isn't in range for the Vals.


I don't think that is the issue as I do have an Air HQ at Truk...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/14/2022 10:03:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		But it doesn't matter if you have an Air HQ if you don't have the supplies.

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/15/2022 3:03:35 AM   
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But it doesn't matter if you have an Air HQ if you don't have the supplies.


Yeah gonna get it back to 20,000 to see if that works...

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/16/2022 5:41:15 AM   
Tanaka


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Status: offline 		Getting back to 20,000 supply did indeed fix the issue. I guess I used it all up on the Zeros and Kates before I could get to the Vals. Thanks all

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RE: Vals at Truk - 2/16/2022 4:35:21 PM   
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But it doesn't matter if you have an Air HQ if you don't have the supplies.


it does if the HQ (doesn't need to be an air HQ) is sitting at a base with 20.000 and that base is in range of your aircraft.

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