Le Tondu
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I'll say it again. It is ludicrous that the English should know in real time what is going on in Russia -no matter how much they paid. Likewise, the Ottomans shouldn't be able to know where every Corps is in England either. It is equally ludicrous for every nation to know where every ship is in real time. IMO, it just plain unrealistic for the lack of FOW to exist in a historical game like this.
I just won't nag, I'll try by best guesses at your questions pfnognoff. ;)
1. It seems to me that a foraging Corps might also be able to better detect the presence of the enemy as well? Yet, in the end, foraging probably shouldn't be too much of a factor. While a part of a Corps foraged, not all of it foraged at the same time and it wasn't usually done at the beginning of important operations when secrecy was needed the most.
2. Not sure there. Maybe someone else might have an answer.
3. Sure, a huge Corps can be hard to hide the nearer it gets to the enemy, but do you actually believe that (-say the Ottoman Empire) would possible know (in real time) where a Corps was deep within French national boundries?
At the threshold of discovery of a Corps, size should make a difference, but what is that threshold? The province that happens to be next to your province with a friendly Corps in it? The size of your Corps should affect the equation, because if it was a tiny Corps, it wouldn't have very much ability to detect others. Should the distance be two provinces away? Working with distance seems the best way to develope FOW with size being secondary.
4. Did national modifiers exist? The French were great at times for sure, but can you give examples of other nations abilities? Some put more into spying than others. I admit as one who wants a FOW to be in the game that this might prove to be a difficult proposion. I mean we have no records of every nation's efforts in this area. Do we? Deception was used and some examples stick out like the French in 1805. Maybe in the end a basic type of FOW should be used without any national modifiers to be fair to all nations?
Well, that's my $.02 worth. I hope that it helps.
I still think that my idea of having a dozen extra "dummy" [U](Corps and ship)[/U] counters would help tremendously while not having too much work being needed to be done. It would go a long way to have a good FOW, IMHO.
(Example) When Nelson tracks down a "dummy" French fleet counter it could model bad English intelligence. The French player would then get to place his "dummy" fleet next to another (real of "dummy") counter and play would then continue. OK, there's a few more cents worth. ;)
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