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- 10/2/2003 2:56:08 AM   
Tristanjohn


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[QUOTE=Mogami]Here is the both 60 test Air attack on Lunga , at 67,97 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 48 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 53 21xA6M5 shot down 2xF4U-1 shot down Here is 99exp IJN vrs 20exp USMC AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/01/42 Air attack on Lunga , at 67,97 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 54 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 54 14xA6M2 shot down (no damaged no op loss) 3xF4U-1 shot down (another 10 crashed and 6 are damaged) A6M5 Zeke 34 Mvr 27 Dur 1 Arm 12 Gun F4U-1 37 Mvr 31 Dur 1 Arm 18 Gun[/QUOTE] Run that test another 10 times, then vary it with regard to number of combatants on both sides, up and down, then go through this procedure yet again, this time gradually increasing the number of Japanese aircraft in relation to American, then reverse that, etc. See if anything unusal (in terms of a pattern) emerges. I know that sounds like loads of work--it is! But it's necessary. Without large samples taken under close control of test conditions these results don't mean much.

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YEA.., THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE - 10/2/2003 3:30:36 AM   
Mike Scholl

 

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[QUOTE=Mogami]Here is the both 60 test

Air attack on Lunga , at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 48

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 53

21xA6M5 shot down
2xF4U-1 shot down

Here is 99exp IJN vrs 20exp USMC

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/01/42

Air attack on Lunga , at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 54


14xA6M2 shot down (no damaged no op loss)
3xF4U-1 shot down (another 10 crashed and 6 are damaged)

A6M5 Zeke 34 Mvr 27 Dur 1 Arm 12 Gun
F4U-1 37 Mvr 31 Dur 1 Arm 18 Gun

I'd say the aircraft matter much more then pilots.[/QUOTE]

It would seem from your examples that the aircraft matter WAY TOO MUCH---
to the point of making other factors a non-factor. The second results are
about what I'd expect from the first circumstances (except for the 10 crashed
on landings) for a GOOD AMERICAN RESULT. On a bad day they might come
out equal. The second has very inexperianced pilots piling up a hefty kill ratio
against extreamly experianced veterans. The result is garbage..., there is no
other way to put it. That much of a skill differential might not guarantee the
Japanese a great result (if the Americans spotted them coming they could
simply open the throttles and run away)---but in an actual "furball" that edge
in experiance should virtually assure a favorable score for the zeros. A 20 skill
can't represent anything more than ability to get in the air and maybe keep
formation. A 99 is the cream of the crop, guys who can make their aircraft
turn cartwheels, and who've mastered all the tricks. They'll get 100+% out of
their aircraft's capabilities. The 20-skill guy will be doing well to get half. If
"Pilot Skill" is going to be in the game, it's got to mean something. The figures
you're putting out aren't encouraging at all in that regard.

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