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- 10/2/2003 5:06:42 PM

AmmoSgt

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PS: in earlier version of the game 4.4 and 4.5 the PzIIIe didn't actually get any APCR , which was terribly inconvienent for the German Player , in more recent versions they gave the PzIIIe a couple of rounds of APCR to help'em out a little.
Look at the Pen Numbers for the German versions of the 47mm at gun used on the PzJg 1b ( pen of 87 ) and the Identical gun in Czech service (pen of 70 ), now to be completely truthful and fair , the 47mm PUV gun does get a APCR Pen of 127 in both the Czech and German OOB's . ok so they don't give the Czech Gun any APCR ammo , but if they did it would be the same , the Germans of course do get APCR . The Czechs should count themselves lucky to get a 70 Pen though since most the other 47mm in the world are in the 50's for Pen. Reminding folks that the German 37mm is now up to 64 Pen LOL .

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- 10/3/2003 10:29:10 PM

Voriax

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[QUOTE=AmmoSgt] Looking at the 37mm L46.5 as used on the German PzIIIe in SPWAW V4.5 AP pen was 39 and APCR pen was 58 in SPWAW v7.1 AP Pen is 64 and APCR pen is 94 [/QUOTE] Oddly enough, after checking from more than one source it actually seems that the 7.1 value is closer to the correct value than the 4.5...and btw, did you notice that the most powerful 37mm gun in the game is US M6 with 77 Pen..surely this should be in the 39 range as the German gun used to be, right???? The APCR pen seem a bit high, the figures I saw were around 80-85. Btw, Finnish tests for 37mm PaK gave 39mm penetration at 300m, 20deg angle from vertical. This is afaik the same gun as the 37mm L46,5? Sorry, no plate hardness to give. Voriax

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