David Lehmann
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Joined: 10/10/2000
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Hello,
At the beginning I started that thread to expose elements about the French equipment, just to discuss equipment datas and certainly not to start a debate on "are Germans or US over/under rated" and things like that. I just try to bring in elements to improve the accuracy of the game and the fact that the French OB has remained mostly unchanged is I guess because nobody cared or nobody had the info or time to take them into account. As I said I already sent .pdf files (59 pages about OB + a whole database about French small arms, artillery, aviation points, details on a heavy tank battalion, involvment of French in WW2 from 1939-1945 ...) to the team, exposing a real French OB in term of unit organization and also pointing several mistakes like a false gun on tank X, false rifle, laking a LMG, wrong air ordnance for the very few planes that are represented etc. and providing good photos/texts for the encyclopedia ...
If you are interested perhaps just in order to learn more, I can send you the files if your mailbox can receive files with a size of about 4MB. The whole units organization in SPWAW has often little to do with the real ones.
I am not coming here saying huu that's false ... I was really busy and made deep researches in many books to provide good TOEs and organization datas that and until yet I missed the strange penetration values of some French guns. I came accross historical documents about several guns and I understood why several guns seemed really useless in the game comparing to real battle reports.
I don't think fixing penetration values will create unintended problems in the gameplay, many others datas have already been fixed. When reading historical accounts you can see that Somua S35s engaged and slaughtered Panzers at 800 meters ... impossible to do in the game because you cannot hit something with them ... because thay are considered loosers, but that would imply to modify other parameters.
I am just concerned by correcting the data like the penetration values not the game mechanisms ... that can just be positive I guess ... other penetration values had been modified in the past insn't it ? And a max penetration of 57mm for the French 47mm SA35 L34 is not a good value IMHO (but I don't know how the 57mm value has been obtained), the max penetration being closer to 82mm for a L34 gun firing an AP shell (obus de rupture) Mle1935 at 700 m/s. At 0° and 1000m it still penetrated 60mm ...and 40mm at 30° at 400m.
Since nobody cares about that and if you want to talk about bazookas, the problems are caused by the FC values of squads that automatically apply for a bazooka carried in the squad. A bazooka in single Inf-AT has FC 0 or 1, rangers/airborne can have up to 5, giving them much (25%) more hit chance with the same weapon (elite status and experience not even counted) ... that's probably why the range of the bazookas in squads have already been reduced, because the squads scored too many hits at longer ranges. And that correction is a good thing IMO. And if I remember correctly (no data under the eyes right know) the bazookas had a practical range of about 150m (3 hexs) on a moving target and 400m (8 hexs) on a standing target for a penetration of about 100mm is that correct ?
Best regards,
David
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