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- 10/30/2003 4:02:38 PM

Luskan

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Well you've obviously never played me or Raver ;)

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- 10/30/2003 9:09:38 PM

TIMJOT

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[QUOTE=Mike_B20]
I agree with Mike Scholl and pasternaksi that a problem exists in naval search effectiveness in UV.

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Have to agree spotting is waaaaaay too effective in UV and I hope it can be toned down in WitP. I really dont see how anyone can say otherwise. Only on very rare occasions am I even remotely surprised by an unexpected TF. Part of the problem might be that IMHO search planes on 100% naval search do not accumulate fatigue fast enough. It seems to me PBYs, Emilys, ect... can go a long time without ill effects. Maybe the map size in WitP will alleviate this somewhat, but then again from the AARs I have seen it doesnt look like many TFs are going unsighted

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- 10/30/2003 10:32:19 PM

mogami

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"If the Japanese player is serious about scouting the allied player cannot move anything without being spotted"

Hi, Do you mean if the Japanese player rather then using his 36 float planes adds in another 120 Betty/Nells? AT what point should spotting be achived?
How many bombers would it take to cover the UV map from PM/Gili/Shortlands/Lunga? From Townsville/Rockhampton/Wunpuko/Luganville?

Is it hard to look at the bases and decide where to allot the search planes?

Assuming you are going to fly search from Port Moresby/Gili/Shortlands/Lunga
and you place 1 Mavis-Emily group at each base. Then you add a 27 Plane Betty group. set them to 60 percent search each base now has 5 Mavis and 16 Betty conducting search. (84 ac) flying every single turn. This is a huge investment of resource.

(As the Allies it's true I often only have 36 search ac out on any turn. (5x12ac groups=60acx60 percent=36 ac fly per turn)
I use B-17/B-24 for recon missions but rarely for search because I am not really concerned with spotting Japanese TF's beyond my medium bomber range. (I use the lower range twin engine bombers for ASW and search)

What I'm saying is if a player puts this extra effort into search missions then he gets two results. First he sees more of the allied TF's. Second his op loss go way up. In one PBEM game I noticed the Japanese had lost over 75 Betty bombers in 3 months and had never made any attacks.

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