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Greatest Military Mind(s) of WWII? - 11/9/2003 2:50:26 AM   
AbsntMndedProf


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Status: offline 		IYHO, who was/were the greatest military genius(es) of WWII? (I know there are many more possible names, so list any others I've missed.) Btw, I meant to allow more than one 'vote' per person. Could a moderator change the poll so that people can vote for more than one? Thanks!

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- 11/9/2003 2:57:27 AM   
Goblin


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- 11/11/2003 8:09:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		You forgot Manstein, so I vote Guderian.

Oh, and btw; where's the Soviet commanders? Zhukov may be ruled out due to his indifference to losses but still...Rokossovskii? Chuikov? Rodimtzev? etc etc

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RE: - 3/6/2004 10:47:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rommel (great tactic commander, less great as strategist)
Montgomery (through the massive accumulation of resources)
Manstein (master of movement war, and also great as a siege commander)
Kesselring (never so much was achieved against so many with so few resources)
Rokkossovsky (more careful about losses than Zukov)
Zukov (another genius of massive piercing movements with armored forces)
Vlassov (one of the few competent soviet commanders since the very beginning... pity he was captured)
Stilwell (against great odds on Far East, he succeed)
Patton (the Mechanized Warlord)

Does anyone knows about any competent Italian commander ?

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RE: RE: - 3/8/2004 5:34:58 AM   
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Sir John Dill: He made the US-UK Alliance work; no battlefield glorie, yet an incredible strategic impact.

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RE: RE: - 3/8/2004 5:38:42 AM   
Robert J. Smead

 

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Orde Wingate: Special Ops en mass.

Creighton Abrams; We did not name that tank after General MacArthur!!!

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RE: RE: - 3/10/2004 1:06:25 AM   
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(Just thought this piece of information was missing.)

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RE: RE: - 3/10/2004 1:31:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Svennemir

Ehrm, Vlasov fought for the Germans!

(Just thought this piece of information was missing.)


Well, Maciste pointed out that he was captured...

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RE: RE: - 3/10/2004 6:55:32 PM   
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Master of Strategic Ops. Land, Sea, and Air.

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RE: RE: - 3/11/2004 12:43:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Svennemir

Ehrm, Vlasov fought for the Germans!

(Just thought this piece of information was missing.)


And he was captured because he was not allowed by the STAVKA to retreat, but he was one of the few Soviet commanders who counterstroke with effectiveness the german attack (nos as Budionny, for example)

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RE: RE: - 4/24/2004 2:30:01 AM   
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RE: RE: - 4/24/2004 6:10:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's really pretty easy to pick the great military minds of WW2. Basically, who did their nation turn to most often when the going got really tough?
Soviets: Zhukov, hands down. The only man who could stand up to Stalin and live, and was always sent to where the fighting was toughest. His plans stymied the Axis time and time again. He might have been the greatest of all nations' military minds.
Germans: Manstein and Guderian, with honorable mention to Kesselring and Rommel. All were superb military minds.
Americans: Patton and Nimitz and Le May. All were very formidable military minds.
Japanese: Yamamoto. By far the best the Japanese had.
Other Nations: Nobody on the level of the men listed above.

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RE: RE: - 4/25/2004 2:44:43 AM   
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Rommel.
Guderain .
Nimitz.
Alexander.

Patton!

What again?

Yeah! So sue me!!

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RE: RE: - 5/4/2004 11:36:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chris Trog

Ernest J King.

Master of Strategic Ops. Land, Sea, and Air.



And what about US anti-sub warfare in the outbreak of the war? I won't call it good and King had a strong role in that AFAIK

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RE: RE: - 5/4/2004 3:58:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great names in high ranks. So i vote for Jochen Peiper. In my opinion he was the personalized soldier.


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RE: RE: - 5/4/2004 5:28:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hermann Balck, commander of the 11th Panzer (Ghost division during Stalingrad)
Hugh Dowding, air marshall for fighter command during the Battle of Britain.
Archibald Wavell, commander of the Med Theatre in 1940 to early '41. Gave Britain her only successes dispite almost no support, impossible commitments and Churchill's meddling.

And about 5-10 others you probably never heard of.

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RE: Greatest Military Mind(s) of WWII? - 6/28/2004 6:07:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rommel - also a strategist as his India plans show
Guderian - what would armored warfair be without him??
Mannstein - possibly THE best
Zhukov - Stalin's firefighter
Kesselring - did a great job in the late years
Model - twarted Montgomerys Market Garden
Montgomery - not sure if he belongs here, but worth mentioning
Patton - a good general, probably the best allied general of the war
Hoth - in Hitler's own word, a lion in defense
Mannerheim - holding out against the russian bear for that long is worth something
MacArthur - not the best, but not too shabby

well I could go on forever, but will stop now. Rommel and Mannstein are my favorites, but a hard call.

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RE: Greatest Military Mind(s) of WWII? - 6/28/2004 8:54:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mannstein
Rommel
Zhukov
Chuikov
Koniev
Vatutin

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